Hurricane31

Alright.. i should be able to do this. Good looking!

So you have to do all missions in the arc? Inspirations, no inspirations, pets no pets?what incarnates should i have set to make all other things equal besides build? It's really not slower and hopefully i can run the numbers by weeks end.

LOL, that's cute. Anyways, i'm happy with my SS build and this originally stated with me asking for advice on my build and then correcting the wrong assumptoins about SS I've never timed it but if you'd like to help me set up hero stats and what to look for i'd be happy to provide that info!

Why SS? because of Foot Stomp and the +recharge you can put in your main AOE attack! You should really try making my build to see how it performs before you say it makes no sense. you'd be surprised by its efficiency (but keep thinking it needs rage).

This is incredible wrong and amazes me that people think they have to use RAGE to farm. Please see my build and every post I made.. Rage IS NOT needed to farm. Also with SS you don't need MU as your epic since you don't need that extra AOE power to include in your rotation (it doesn't do enough damage anyways)

I got ya, only problem with the +recharge in spines/ripper is the ainimation time and it's an extra power that stops you from using your main AOE power (and ripper isn't AOE.. of course you know that) My guy doesn't need much healing if any to be honest.. fire defense (44%, reistance 90%) I'm guessing the p2w power you guys seems to be talking about is defense amplifier.. dont think i've ever used those. (send me that build please.. i really want to compare, plus it might have something i can use to make my toon better) You don't need rage to actually farm good (just use it as a mule power)

Since the debate has started again, (i don't use rage), and if you didn't slot your Foot Stomp with +Recharge you negate the whole benefit. A better question would be, can i see your build so i can compare!

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I still love my SS... http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/download.php?uc=1508&c=696&a=1392&f=HEX&dc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Subscribed.. Also if someone can chime in regarding needing 2 slotted hasten (is it needed or does 1 slot do the job) Also I don't think i'd 2 slot stamina for run speed increase

For farming i never seem to actually need rage, but the double rage is nice when i farm and paying 100% attention

You're right about the KB in rad, just logged back into my Rad/Fire brute and realized it's tied to some slotting I had. So i'm going to check out this guy out without the KB. You stated their were guides that showed numbers proving one build was better than another but .. Statement #1: I'm a lazy bastard. Statement #2: Assumptions are made. I'll have to look for the build info on reddit as when i searched i couldn't find anything good with a solid build for ss/fire You keep saying ss throws out a lower number of attacks, but my arguement is the amount of damage it does and the amount of time for it's attacks raises it's overall damage (and you tend to disagree with that statement based on numbers someone else used that specially says.. (see statements 1 and 2 from the original poster) as far as spines and rad using more of its primary powers.. using any primary cone powers when farming is more of a waste than you're giving discredit for. since it leaves more bad guys alive then if you were to use pbaoe powers You keep saying spines and rad have a few more... they have 1 more power and that's their aura that causes enough damage than ss (their cone attacks are nice, but for farming it will hurt your kill/time ratio (if you consistently are leaving 2-3 enemies alive per group because your cone attack doens't get what's behind you then you're missing out on more damage per attack, The more i write this, the more i think you're focused on the amount of damage a power does without thinking about just who it damages... in closing.. ss (with the +recharge proc) does a ton more damage than you're actually giving credit for.. a macro isn't going to allow you to take advantage of benefits of fs if it is available more than your macro is set to handle. My best advice would be to try it yourself finally if you have any thing to say about my current build posted above i'd love to hear how i can better maximize it (i think it's pretty op myself but sure i could tweak it to make it even better) if you let me know what server you're on.. i can make another brute and transfer him to your server so can check out each attacks ourselfs

I hear what you're saying but if the proc miss 1/10 times that means it hits 9/10 times thus increasing your speed overall (that you say it lost because of that 1 time it doesn't hit) The problem with atom smasher compared to foot stomp is atom smasher has a kb if i remember correctly and would need to be slotted accordingly to stop that, thus reducing your slotting to maximize the damage (so that 14 base damage is either lost with the kb or lost when you slot for kd instead (fs doesn't have that problem). relying on a proc that hits 100% of the time isn't a bad notion (also it makes all your powers recharge faster meaning you have a shorter time till burn is up also! bro.. FS has a 4 second recharge and burn has a 5 second recharge.. how much downtime you think it has? it's up before burn is even finished casting (ok 1-2 seconds after) Nobody is leaning on 1 power, it's literally FS/Burn/Patreon Power AOE... repeat. What procs can you have in AOE powers that matter? My FS is slotted with Superior Brutes Fury (5 Slots) and 1 Force Feedback .. My burn is slotted with Armageddon (5 Slots) with 1 either chance for -res or superior unrelending fury (recharge/chance for +regen/+end) Ball lighting has 5 ragnarok plus 1 chance for -res how many more procs do you need? (i'm geniunly interested in hearing this so i can make changes if needed) also show me the test where ss/fire comes in lower with a proper build

Thanks for that... you make a great point but you fail to address what I believe to be one BIG thing.. The Force Feedback +Recharge 100% proc! Which allows Super Stomp (AOE) to come back faster making it like having a ton of medium blades doing big blade damage.

Have't played him yet, just got him to 50, but here is my planned slotting (using Mids' Reborn) http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/download.php?uc=1486&c=679&a=1358&f=HEX&dc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

Thanks for chiming in.. I only use 3 powers in my tray! Burn.. Followed by Foot Stomp followed by either electrical fences or ball lighting... and stick in a heal if needed.. so those 2 cone powers are wasted and because of the extra +recharge proc in Foot Stomp, my main aoe damage powers are up before i'd need to use ripper or throwspines (both which are cone, compared to aoe! Also quills is like blazing aura if i'm correct which is great for afk farming but not enough damage to make up the +rechange that Foot Stomp gives me Foot Stomp has a 4 second cooldown Burn has a 5 second cooldown Ball Lighting has a 8 second cooldown Spine Burst has a 4 second cooldown So you really don't need the cone powers as the animation time takes away from your ability to use your main aoe powers *main damage*

edits: added Hi ALL! Can someone tell me why spines or rad /fire brute is considered better than a ss/fire brute? i'm guessing people say the damage aura of spines & rad make it top tier (just my guess really) but you can't slot the way I can with a ss/fire brute for extra aoe damage (Force Feedback +recharge in your main AOE attack.. (maybe i'm wrong and you'll show me the error in my ways...) 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Currently Rad and Spines has/needs a 4 power rotation (meaning your first AOE power isn't up so you need to fill the time with an extra power), because of this your main AOE power isn't used as much as mine as SS only needs/has a 3 power rotation. So i'm able to fire off FS every 4 seconds while i believe you have to wait 6-8 seconds (the actual time is listed below). Also most of you talk about the debuff from rad, but by placing -Fury (res debuff) into blazing aura, I'm able to debuff also (i'm sure it's not enough debuff but it's a debuff 🙂 ). Again the key to this build is the +recharge in my main AOE power Foot Stomp that comes back every 4 seconds allowing MORE damage in a short amount of time compared to Rad or Spines. The extra damage from the Rad-Spines Aura does not contain enough damage to make up for the extra power needed in your rotation. Also some people have stated that they can add +recharge into Spines(ripper) power.. you've now added an extra power to your rotation and it's not an AOE. Final note.. these are my assumptions based on playing both builds in farm maps. If you've used my build (the last one) please let me know. EDIT: YOU DO NOT NEED RAGE