Shaman Coyote

Thank you!!!

JJ, you are a king among men. This is an amazing collection. I have no idea how you do it. If you have time, could you possibly put out a Willpower/Super Strength Tank? That's the one kind of tank I didn't see.

Since we're talking flight bugs: Evasive Maneuvers' defense buff is not suppressing in combat. Very nice, but the info says it should suppress.

This is probably my favorite part of this Page. I've always wanted to explore the zones for all the badges w/o VM because that just feels too much like cheating. This is helping me actually explore and find the coolest points of lore. I love it. I'm actually going to get back into Perez and the Hallows for something other than just solo-leveling.

Not that I'm complaining but according to my combat attributes, the +def for Evasive Maneuvers does not suppress when in combat. It makes my Energy Aura brute seriously tough. Possibly OP tough. Edit: The reason I mention this is that the power description says it should not be available during combat.

Nope, I take it all back. That last point Jimmy made about the tier selection combined with the slotting options... Yep, I'm a convert. Travel power or not, it's still top shelf and I might be one of those folks who selects it on most of my toons. Thanks, Jimmy!

That makes perfect sense to me. I'd overlooked the part about travel powers and tier choices. I agree that it will likely be a popular choice, but I doubt it'll be chosen as a travel power, unless the defense is made so it's kept during combat. That would change it from something that will need to be toggled off during combat to conserve endurance (like the other travel powers) to something that can be used as a replacement for CJ and/or Hover.

That's a lot of inf to spend on getting to almost where others can do with next to no expense, don't you think? It sounds almost like you're proving my point: Concealment shouldn't be considered on par as a travel pool with the other travel pools. As it stands, Infiltration doesn't have anything to put it in the travel power set league. Please note, I'm not saying it doesn't have it's thematic uses. It's just not worth taking unless you have a very specific reason for it. You can do more by taking CJ and Stealth. At least with that combo you get to keep some reasonable defense and CJ's end cost is negligible. Since Infiltrations suffers from suppression in combat you're getting the same movement and can be slotting for +def. Obviously you'd need some kind of out-of-combat travel power but that's where SJ comes in. Using next to no slots on movement, you've got everything you wanted. It does cost more power choices but you'd save on slots so, as always, it's a give-and-take.

You're going to spend 5 slot choices on your travel power? You must be thinking of a very loose build. I've never had a build with that many slots to spend on a travel power. By the way, I did discuss exactly that point in my post you've quoted. I hadn't experimented with it yet, however, so I'm very glad you've done so.

There have been a full 7+ pages of notes since I last read this yesterday so I hope this hasn't been addressed already. Just in case I tossed a tl/dr at the end. Setting aside the stealth portion of the new stealth pool changes, calling it a "travel pool" is very misleading. Infiltration is no different (as described in the patch notes and shown in game) than any of the free movement powers. Those are not nearly on par with the true travel pool powers and it seems inappropriate that concealment should be included in the list of travel pools. While it would be nice to have another travel power--especially one that could work as half-way between Super Jump and Super Speed--Neither the movement running powers nor Infiltration come close to doing that. This is especially true now that SS has the Momentum Jump mechanic and SJ has DJ. When one claims to have a "travel power" it means one is able to get to missions in a relatively quick timeframe. If Infiltration is supposed to allow anything near that, it fails completely. If adding stealth to Athletic Run is supposed to make it worth it to use up a power choice, I really don't think many will be doing so for the purpose of travel. That being said, I'm wondering if the idea here is to be able to have a run (not travel) power and stealth on with a reduced endurance cost compared to using both before. There's no difference at all as far as power selections. Or is the idea that now you can slot both run and jump in the run power? I'll have to experiment to see if that would turn this "movement" power into a "travel" power. Even if it would, however, I doubt it would be worth it to use slots in that way. Most of the time I doubt anyone puts more than three slots in a travel power. Slotting would likely be EndRed/Run/Jump (1 or 2 each, depending on how many slots you want to devote to it) since the Defense buff would be meaningless. I doubt many people would want to 6 slot a travel power, especially when it still wouldn't let them come close to keeping up with others who have their travel powers one or two slotted. Lastly, as to the defense portion of Infiltration: neither Combat Jumping nor Hover lose their defense buff while in combat. Infiltration has no immob or KB mitigation so why does it lose the defense when the others doesn't lose anything? It also suffers from the suppression that happens during combat so as far as speed/jump, it's no better than CJ. All in all, it makes no sense to spend a power choice on Infiltration when you can get Athletic (etc) Run for free. Again, the exception would be for endurance cost limits. I can foresee some arguing that since the defense comes from the stealth and the stealth is meaningless once the foe is aware of you, so logically the defense must be lost. If they were to set mechanics to be logical this game would cease to exist, so that argument doesn't hold water. Besides, the defense should be coming from the maneuverability just like it does in the case of CJ. Coyote TL/DR: Infiltration should keep its +Def in combat, just like CJ does and Concealment doesn't deserve to be called a "Travel Pool".

The PvE stealth radius of Stealth is now 55'. Confirmed in game.

This is exactly my point. There's no benefit to it other than mobility. It should not really cause OAS but even it if has to it should still not cause MMs to be unable to give pet commands. Given it's lack of combat utility it should not affect combat ability.

I understand it's working as the OAS is normally intended. What I'm saying has two real parts: First: Why? OAS is meant to stop you from attacking when you can't be attacked but for this you can be attacked so why should you be OAS? Second: You use any powers (even self-affecting) when shape-changed to a Coyote for the shape-changing movement power but you can be attacked and give pet commands and therefore this should be in the same category. Thank you for the dialog!

1) Please note that while Speed Phase does not limit attacks on you, it does still cause Masterminds to be unable to issue commands to pets. Not good and, as far as I can tell, not as intended. 2) Jumping using the Momentum Jump mechanic of Super Speed does not give any air control (likely intentional since that's logical) but also causes the jumper to take damage upon landing. I'm hoping that last part is not intentional. Coyote