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Tried to install it to a different drive twice, was working before the update.

Sounds a whole lot like quit talking about tactical arrow. It's a feedback thread, the feedback is the changes do not feel good. Range, OSA, those are the big issues and it has been directly ignored with one mention of "But mental tho". I get it, good stuff did come from the page but that doesn't make tac arrows changes any less disappointing and I'm going to say I don't like them. OSA feels so incredibly lazy. It's not even a matte of it not being a new power. It's a matter of it being a worse version of OSA which in itself is not a T9. Regardless of it is a "good" power or not is irrelevant. I'm not happy, I see no reason to stop talking about the one thing from the page that I feel was a bad move. Increase the ranges back to 80, reduce mag for ice and ena. OSA if it's going to stay should at least feel like. Proper T9.

They're still holding ground on tac arrow changes huh? After testing I really dislike our T9 being another sets T8 with no added benefits to it. Outside of the fact it's a lazy T9 the fact is people are going to struggle to take it with the limited amount of slots folks already have. Not to mention the sets lack of a melee attack at all feels so strange to have the reduced range on an archer. I've said it before, I've tested the changes and I still heavily disagree with the range nerfs and think OSA should be completely replaced with something actually unique to the set. Other than that with this being the potential live build I'm not impressed and will be shelving both TA characters.

Has anyone tried to make an Ice/Sonic yet? I'm having difficulty figuring out how to slot this set at all.

So I'm by no means an expert in build craft but I took a shot at making a build for my farming character that's just for standard content. Any tweaks or comments would be appreciated 🙂 http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/download.php?uc=1537&c=720&a=1440&f=HEX&dc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illain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.7.2.10 https://github.com/Crytilis/mids-reborn-hero-designer Emile Test: Level 50 Magic Brute Primary Power Set: Titan Weapons Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery Villain Profile: ------------ Level 1: Defensive Sweep (A) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage (3) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance (3) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal) (5) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge (5) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (7) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 1: Fire Shield (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (7) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (9) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (9) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) Level 2: Blazing Aura (A) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage (11) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Recharge (11) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (13) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (13) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (15) Superior Brute's Fury - Recharge/Fury Bonus Level 4: Titan Sweep (A) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage (15) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal) (17) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance (17) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge (19) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance Level 6: Build Momentum (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up Level 8: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (19) Recharge Reduction IO Level 10: Combat Jumping (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (21) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage (21) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance Level 12: Super Jump (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points) (23) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range Level 14: Temperature Protection (A) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP (23) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (25) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (25) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance Level 16: Plasma Shield (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (27) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (27) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (29) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% Level 18: Healing Flames (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal (29) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance (31) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime (31) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime (31) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance (33) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb Level 20: Consume (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge Level 22: Kick (A) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge Level 24: Follow Through (A) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage (33) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge (33) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance (34) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (34) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 26: Tough (A) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance (34) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance (36) Aegis - Resistance (36) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge Level 28: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (36) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) (37) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance (37) Shield Wall - Defense (37) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance/Recharge Level 30: Rend Armor (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage (39) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance (40) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge (40) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (40) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (42) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal) Level 32: Whirling Smash (A) Eradication - Damage (42) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge (42) Eradication - Damage/Recharge (43) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (43) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (43) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage Level 35: Burn (A) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage (45) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Damage/RechargeTime (45) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (45) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (46) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (46) Superior Unrelenting Fury - RechargeTime/+Regen/+End Level 38: Arc of Destruction (A) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage (46) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance (48) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge (48) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (48) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal) Level 41: Superior Conditioning (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End Level 44: Physical Perfection (A) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery (50) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End Level 47: Fiery Embrace (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 49: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (50) Red Fortune - Defense (50) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance Level 1: Brawl (A) Damage Increase IO Level 1: Prestige Power Dash (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Slide (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Quick (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Rush (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Surge (A) Empty Level 1: Fury Level 1: Sprint (A) Celerity - +Stealth Level 2: Rest (A) Endurance Modification IO Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift (A) Empty Level 2: Health (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance (39) Miracle - +Recovery Level 2: Hurdle (A) Empty Level 2: Stamina (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (39) Performance Shifter - EndMod Level 1: Momentum Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon Level 50: Mighty Core Final Judgement Level 50: Reactive Radial Flawless Interface Level 50: Talons of Vengeance Radial Superior Ally Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany Level 50: Melee Radial Embodiment ------------

It's very easy after all the feedback to see that emphasis on psi as backhanded after all the feedback on tac. It feels like it's specifically there to taunt tac arrow players even if that's not what it was meant to do so. Half the immbo and give back the range.

60 isn't good enough, seconded and thirded to what others have said. Tac arrow has no melee powers and the 80ft or bust is just what the set needs to keep it's identity. If mental can have it, so can tac.

Unintended or not you have to admit it has become something that the community liked about Tac Arrow. It's an archery set, archers don't typically go and bop people in the face with their arrows, despite what TV might show you. I would ask that you reconsider your choices here and just give it back the range it had and make it *two* sets with increased range as with these changes sticking I'll be another one shelfing my tac arrow character. It's just way too noticeable and doesn't feel right with the sets grown identity. Sometimes what wasn't intended ends up being what is.

Hey Brother, got two requests for ya'. Electric Control/Martial Assault Dom and Assault Rifle/Trick Arrow Defender.

Agreed, I feel like it should probably be renamed as well to be honest. EMP arrow doesn't sound right for a "buff" power, but that's honestly semantics. I would probably say put the duration at 20 seconds but that's about my only difference. These changes would make it really feel like a proper T9 if it's supposed to be an "ultimate" of the sets identity.

After some more testing I really don't think OSA is a *Bad* call for TA but it's not the most interesting nor the most fitting for the set. It's the T8 of a different set which makes it feel kinda cheap and like a cop out of what a T9 should be. I would have rather seen something unique given to TA to give it more of its own identity over trick arrow. Not sure what I would want for a T9 as I'm sure some more creative types could brainstorm that but the range loss here really does hurt TA, I don't understand why ever manip set has to be homogenized, someone else said it but this really is feeling like the DnD 4th edition problem.

So, I haven't really gotten to play around with the set too much but it feels like a nice balance of control. I'm not sure what powers in builds just yet are going to be totally skippable. I'm honestly curious what the community opinion on that is so far?

The actual changes to teleport pool however have been nice to say such. I just have to agree with what someone else said earlier. Travel time is not content, and this is dev time that could have been spent elsewhere on what feels like a non-issue.

Overall I'm okay with tac arrow changes but two small things just make the set feel kinda less fun to play now. I don't understand the logic behind the Electrified Net Arrow and Ice Arrow changes. They are super noticeable and hurt the set over all, Also would have liked to see something unique added to the set over Oil Slick Arrow, personal opinion OSA doesn't fit Tac Arrow. The Combination of Gym was a great call though and does feel super nice over all.

I don't really know if I can add more to the conversation than has been said but these changes feel really really bad for those of us that have a lot of alts. Having to get the accolad on multiple characters is going to be a massive pain and I can understand *why* they don't want us to have the dev command but it's been there for almost two years and has made it incredibly enjoyable to run some of those TFs that require so much zoning that after testing the changes with some friends on Manticore they feel very very rough, adding on travel time that is going to make folks less willing to run these already kind of sparingly run TFs. Not a fan and hope these changes don't make it to live, this feels like a massive misstep.

Thanks brother, really helped.

Is there any chance you could toss together a Storm/AR Defender and a Thugs/Thermal MM? I'm having trouble putting these together

I can't find a proper way to create this build. I only really know I want to use hover and the basic concept as an Aerokinetic Mutant Soldier. Inspired by like MGS style crazy bosses. A mix of the paranormal and bullets. If anyone knows how to make these two slot hungry sets work together I would appreciate it. Edit: I've got a basic power selection down at least. Tried to slot it. Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.7 https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Garuda: Level 50 Mutation Defender Primary Power Set: Storm Summoning Secondary Power Set: Assault Rifle Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Fighting Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: O2 Boost -- Prv-Heal/EndRdx(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(3) Level 1: Burst -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(3), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(7), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(7) Level 2: Slug -- SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg(A), SprDfnBst-Dmg/Rchg(9), SprDfnBst-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(11), SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), SprDfnBst-Rchg/Heal%(13) Level 4: Fly -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A) Level 6: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 8: Steamy Mist -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(13), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(15), Ags-ResDam(17), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(17) Level 10: Freezing Rain -- AchHee-ResDeb%(A), RechRdx-I(23) Level 12: M30 Grenade -- SprVglAss-Dmg/Rchg(A), SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), SprVglAss-Rchg/+Absorb(46) Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(23) Level 16: Afterburner -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A) Level 18: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 20: Sniper Rifle -- StnoftheM-Dam%(A), Dcm-Build%(25), StnoftheM-Dmg/EndRdx(25), StnoftheM-Acc/Dmg(27), StnoftheM-Dmg/ActRdx/Rchg(27), StnoftheM-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29) Level 22: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(48), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50) Level 24: Tactics -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(50), GssSynFr--ToHit(50) Level 26: Tornado -- ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(A), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(29), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(31), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(31), OvrFrc-Dmg/End/Rech(33) Level 28: Flamethrower -- SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg(A), SprVglAss-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48), SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48) Level 30: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(34), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(34), Ags-ResDam(34), Ags-Psi/Status(37), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(40) Level 32: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(33), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(33) Level 35: Scorpion Shield -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(36), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(36), Rct-Def/Rchg(36), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Rct-ResDam%(37) Level 38: Full Auto -- SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(39), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(40) Level 41: Lightning Storm -- Apc-Dmg/Rchg(A), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Apc-Acc/Rchg(42), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Apc-Dam%(43), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(43) Level 44: Web Cocoon -- SprEnt-Acc/Hold(A), SprEnt-Hold/Rchg(45), SprEnt-End/Rchg(45), SprEnt-Acc/Hold/End(45), SprEnt-Acc/Hold/End/Rchg(46), SprEnt-Rchg/AbsorbProc(46) Level 47: Hurricane -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(A) Level 49: Gale -- SuddAcc--KB/+KD(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Dmg-I(A) Level 1: Quick Form Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- UnbLea-Stlth(A) Level 1: Vigilance Level 2: Rest -- EndMod-I(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A) Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A), Pnc-Heal/+End(21), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(21) Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(19), EffAdp-EndMod(19) ------------

Okay so I attempted to make a build for myself. Can anyone look this over and make some changes if I messed up too hard? Villain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.7 https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! V2: Level 50 Science Mastermind Primary Power Set: Mercenaries Secondary Power Set: Thermal Radiation Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Speed Ancillary Pool: Heat Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Soldiers -- SvrRgh-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), AchHee-ResDeb%(3), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg(3), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(5), SlbAll-Build%(5), SprMarofS-EndRdx/+Resist/+Regen(7) Level 1: Warmth -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(7), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(9), Prv-Heal/Rchg(9), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(11), Prv-Absorb%(11) Level 2: Burst -- Dvs-Acc/Dmg(A), Dvs-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Dvs-Dmg/Rchg(40), Dvs-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), Dvs-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Dvs-Hold%(42) Level 4: Fire Shield -- Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Ags-ResDam(19), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(21) Level 6: Equip Mercenary -- EndRdx-I(A) Level 8: M30 Grenade -- OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg(A), OvrFrc-End/Rech(21), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End(23), OvrFrc-Dmg/End/Rech(23), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(25), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(25) Level 10: Plasma Shield -- Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Ags-ResDam(17), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(19) Level 12: Spec Ops -- SvrRgh-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprMarofS-Dmg/EndRdx(13), CaltoArm-+Def(Pets)(13), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(15), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15), SvrRgh-PetResDam(17) Level 14: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(34), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(34), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(36) Level 16: Cauterize -- DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx(A), DctWnd-EndRdx/Rchg(45), DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(45), DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(45), DctWnd-Heal(46) Level 18: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 20: Serum -- HO:Cyto(A) Level 22: Tough -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(37), GldArm-3defTpProc(37), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(37) Level 24: Thaw -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 26: Tactics -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(27), GssSynFr--ToHit(27), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(29) Level 28: Commando -- SprMarofS-Dmg(A), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx(33), EdcoftheM-Acc/EndRdx(33), SprMarofS-Acc/EndRdx(34), EdcoftheM-PetDef(29), SprCmmoft-Rchg/PetAoEDef(31) Level 30: Forge -- AdjTrg-ToHit(A), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx(48), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(50), AdjTrg-ToHit/Rchg(50) Level 32: Tactical Upgrade -- EndRdx-I(A) Level 35: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(33), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48) Level 38: Heat Exhaustion -- Acc-I(A), EndRdx-I(36), RechRdx-I(36) Level 41: Melt Armor -- AchHee-DefDeb(A), TchofLadG-%Dam(42), AnlWkn-Acc/DefDeb(42), AnlWkn-Acc/Rchg/EndRdx(46), AnlWkn-Acc/Rchg(46), AnlWkn-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(48) Level 44: Bonfire -- SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(A), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(43), SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(43), Ann-ResDeb%(43) Level 47: Power of the Phoenix -- Heal-I(A) Level 49: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50) Level 1: Brawl -- Dmg-I(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A) Level 1: Supremacy Level 2: Rest -- EndMod-I(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A) Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(31) Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(31) Level 1: Soldier Level 1: Medic Level 12: Spec Ops Level 26: Commando Level 50: Intuition Radial Paragon ------------

I really really did not like Thugs/Thermal, it felt like you could not stop them from killing themselves no matter what with your primary heal being PB.

Unfortunately this build for me is currently thugs thermal and I don't enjoy that any more than Mercs could be. The thugs are too hard to keep track of and keep healed up. I would still like to try the combo if I could find a build for myself. As Mercs don't move around so much

I'm absolutely terrible at making MM builds and can't seem to find a build already premade for this set up. Is it just a bad combo or could I make it work. I really got attached to the thematics behind the character but I find myself in desperate need of a respec. Can anyone help me out here. I don't mind dropping some powers but would like to keep burst, m30, and bonfire. I also don't feel the need to have travel powers and run the sprint/ninja run combo.