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This is kind of what I posted earlier, but the Resist floor actually means Acid Arrow doesn't change your -ToHit vs anything but Minions and AVs (see Bopper's post and Capt P's earlier in the thread - I'm guessing Underlings get hit too). So that tends to make the criticism and conclusion drawn here even stronger.

Thanks, wish I'd seen his post on that, it would have saved me some wasted testing. That's the problem with coming to testing a particular set late and trying to play catch up on the thread.

The problem I'm seeing is three-fold: The -Special scales with the Purple Patch, meaning you get double-whammied by that scaling both the -Special and then what the -Special is supposed to make better. The -Special probably stacks from multiple casters (I say "probably" because I haven't been able to test that). Balancing for that is likely to make it weak in solo play. The -Special appears to be ignored in certain cases. So far everything I've found with ToHit Debuff Res simply ignores the -Special that should affect that. The -30% shows up in the Power Analyzer, but the total ToHit Debuff Res isn't changed and there is no alteration in the ToHit Bonus or Last Hit Chance numbers with or without Acid Arrow. The last of those is some sort of bug, which I'll test further and report [Edit: Not a bug.] The second seems the most difficult to fix. So far the best suggestions I've come up with are simply to change the cast to 1.16s and give it a 1.2x Acc modifier to make it a little better for using as a -Def tool and live with the highly disappointing -Special component.

I haven't played the set yet on an MM. I think that's where Acid Arrow will be at its best though (discounting the proc-monster build mentioned earlier). Obviously those sub-level henchman can get value from the -Def. (I'm using Imps, which are themselves -1 level). Glue Arrow will be great for Ninjas. I may fiddle around with various procs in Acid Arrow after I've tested the -Special further.

The power is flagged as unresistable (all -90%). In a brief spin I couldn't find anything that resisted it. Not even Arachnos Fortunata Bosses and Mistress LTs. It may be that nothing I checked had any PER Res to begin with. I'd probably need to find someone with Tactics to test it against to be absolutely sure.

I believe Annhilation is actually -12.5% Res. With no Recharge in Acid Arrow they should fire off about 40% (Ann) and 47% (AH) of the time for 8s each. An average -Res of -117 percent-seconds/mob hit. By comparison, Entangling Arrow will do -450 percent-seconds per hit. You need to come up with a model of mobs hit and how long each lives to move on from there. To use the Pylon scenario you're probably better off attacking than using Acid Arrow. It will up your damage an average of 14.4% for 8s at the cost of roughly 2s of your normal DPS. If you're spamming it to try to keep it up that's 80% (Acid Arrow will eat about 20% of your cast time) * 1.144 ~ 0.91. Which is less than 1.0 - what you'd do without using Acid Arrow. For large spawns the procs would have more value, but I find the bulk of the spawn dies plenty fast and really only worry about -Res on Bosses or greater. Anyway, procs aren't part of the power, though they should to be taken into account in the second order consideration. But then the near certainty that procs will get nerfed should probably be considered as well. If global +Rech starts getting factored in to balance them... well, you get the point. Yeah, procs make Acid Arrow better. But it's sad to think that they may now be the best reason to use it.

If you can tell me what mob has PER Debuff Res I could test it.

As I said, the 1.83s is relatively slow. Slow compared to other TA powers, and slow for the weak effects it now has. Like DPA. In this case it's the EffPA I consider poor. I just find there's always some better use of those 2s than casting Acid Arrow. Maybe on an MM it would beat standing around. But on the other ATs you're apt to have better alternatives. Heck, I find casting Entangling Arrow on Bosses for the -Res is more useful. Another thing I just noticed in my latest round of testing is that some Crey have 10% ToHit Debuff Res, but when hit by Acid Arrow still have 10% ToHit Debuff Res (according to the Power Analyzer) despite the -30% from Acid Arrow. They have the exact same debuff when the debuffs are applied before or after Acid Arrow. I tried it on some Archnos with ToHit Debuff Res and they ignored Acid Arrow as well. [Edit: This was already reported earlier. It's a known design component.] The first pic below is without first casting Acid Arrow, the second is when using Acid Arrow before the debuffs. I waited for the debuffs to wear off between casts. The final ToHit bonus is 22.43% in each case.

That's not just dependent on your build, but on the play context too. The -Def can certainly be useful in some situations. If you hit with it. It's not autohit like Radiation Infection. It has to hit and it has base Acc. So you're assertion that it's very helpful for poorly slotted teams has to assume that it's the one power that isn't poorly slotted for Acc. It's also relatively slow to cast (1.83s). If it had a 1.16s cast like many of the other TA powers, and a base Acc of 1.2x, then I might have found more use for it. But probably not. Because its three effects - tiny DoT, -Def and -Special - are just too weak or too infrequently useful. That you were able to find a use for it in a low-Acc proc-monster build fighting +4s doesn't make it good in a more general context. One of the things that really hurts is that the -Special scales with the Purple Patch. Also, half of Flash Arrow's -ToHit is unresistable, and so isn't boosted by lowering the target's -ToHit Defuff Res with the -Special. So against +4s on a Def my calculations say that's another 1.38% -ToHit from Acid Arrow before Flash Arrow. That's 19.2% from the -Special after the Purple Patch times the 9,375% resistable DeBuff times the 0.48 scaling from the Purple Patch on the Debuff itself times 1.60 for enhancement (just to use a roundish number). [Edit: add in that this bonus -ToHit only works against Minions.] Not exactly sterling.

I tested some after posting. It appears that Wavicle is right. The odd wording appears to simply mean that it ignores buffs. It is enhanceable and does choose the location at cast, not at activation.

The thing that bothers me the most with the new Acid Arrow is that it went from a "take ASAP, use often" power to a highly skippable infrequent use power. My use of it (even with an AH proc in it) has dropped so dramatically that it almost feels like a Cottage Rule violation. The larger Radius is certainly nice, but it's irrelevant if you never use it. And with the -Def and -Special being so seldom needed or useful (respectively), that's most fights. Is it really worth the time to cast it to increase Flash Arrow's -ToHit by about 3-6% (depending on AT and opponent level)?

It should be spelled out one way or the other. I.e. "Range may be enhanced but not buffed." or whatever it actually is.

Combat Teleport is listing enhanced Range when slotted with an End/Range IO. Does "not affected by Range changes" mean something other than unenhanceable? Perhaps that it will still teleport to the target if the target has moved beyond range? If so, rewording that may be in order. I took it to mean no buffs or enhancements.

I've just started testing the Warshade changes and didn't take the time to read the whole thread. So I apologize for repeating things that have already been covered. Shadow Step: Why doesn't this power grant Untouchable as Teleport does? Starless Step: TYPO: The description text reads "Note that Starless is unaffected by Range changes. Note that Starless Step is unaffected by Range changes." Black Dwarf Step: This doesn't get the Untouchable either, though it makes more sense here, since you're in "Tank" form.

Even given the P2W option, for the most part I'd just spend the time to get the explores and pick up 5 RM in the process. Where I'd want the P2W option is fairly common for me though. I see someone advertise a TF, I have some toon that I want the badge for, I say "let me switch", and then end up on a toon I find doesn't have the LRTP power unlocked yet. Also, if there's a red-side toon I don't want to switch alignment on I might also just fork over the INF if given that "out". There's no easy to explore zone comparable to Atlas Park red-side or yellow-side.

I think the level of the Freaks is a small issue with that hunt. It is essentially asking a toon at the lowest level of the arc to fight at a setting of +2 or so. But that will still likely be easier than the Raverobber, Pathogen and Cortex missions.

It is quite easy to unlock the LRTP. Using Jimmy's prescription I'd just have to have my 170 alts sit in Pocket D for 1 hour each. That'll only take a little over a week at 24 hrs a day. Assuming I check in every hour to change toons, of course. No problem. Sarcasm aside... the LRTP unlock isn't really trivial. Trivial would be if any explore badge unlocked it. Fortunately for me, probably over half my alts have the AP explores. So I'll only have to spend maybe 6 hrs total unlocking the LRTP on the others by running around and getting zone explores on 70 or so toons that don't yet have it. So, basically 5 or 6 minutes of "maintenance" each on toons I log in that don't have it. Spread out over of the 3 months or so I go before completing a cycle of alts that's maybe 5 minutes a day of my CoH play lost. Minor, but not trivial. My suggestion is to simply put an unlock in the P2W Vendor store for whatever price is deemed appropriate.

I ran a couple of more toons through to Pierce's dialog so I could make sure I'd tested all 4 possible results and all 3 options at Hide Park. Everything looks good up until the Pathogen mission (I left the toons there to test virus issues later). I have to say I'm getting a little punchy and may have missed some typos (I'm usually pretty good at catching those, but I've read most of the dialog so many times now I may be reading what I expect to see instead of what's actually there). I ran another L28 MM through the Rave mission. Boy is that thing packed to the rafters with bad guys. I ended up hitting L29 (untrained) in it (just before the last room), which helped. But it remained slow going even on an Demon/Thermal MM with +Res buffs and an AoE heal. Mostly just making sure not to aggro more than a couple of spawns at a time. Which I managed, so no defeats. That's not where I die anyway - it's the fires in the Pathogen mission or Cortex's respawn with no insps or END left that get me (the no insps is because I have to burn them during the illusion fights). The other toon was a Stalker again for speed (an L24 EM/Nin on SOs, not a "real" build 🙂), so the only challenge was Raverobber as a +1 EB. What a difference AT makes on this arc.

There is an ambush, with some sarcastic dialog ridiculing the ambush itself. As for the level of street spawns - they actually are set off hero activity in the area. Higher levels and larger spawns mean higher level heroes and more heroes moving about the area. I've mostly been finding L20-21 Freaks over by the Magic Store when hunting. The ones over towards the Hospital tend to be higher level regardless of activity.

You get about 2/3rds as much selling Converters instantly as you do using slower but more efficient RM-to-INF conversion routes (you can earn still more by really working the market - I'm just talking about using Boosters and Unslotters - which have a higher return but more volatility). Since we're talking 2-3M to fully SO a low level toon through the mid 20s that only amounts to a loss of about 1-1.5M INF going the quick-and-easy route. That's not a lot for avoiding having to think or wait. But you still do need to know what Reward Merits are, what Merit Vendors are, and how to use the AH.

Let's call it effectively 14' then. BoS being a dual use power is a bit of a drawback, and Combat Teleport will step on the toes of one of the uses. There's no question about that. So perhaps BoS deserves a buff. The straight one-use 20s Recharge mini Shield Charge version certainly has some appeal (to me at least), but it ceases to be a utility power and is just an attack. It would basically do the damage of Psychic Shockwave or Deafening Wave with a different secondary effect. As for the 270s cycle time. The power still only has 90s of base cooldown plus 3s of activation time, the rest is from not using it when available. If you're trying to maximize damage you could use BoS every time it is reasonable to use it. When you do that it does about 75% of the damage of Lightning Rod on a Scrapper in just a touch more time, with a much longer range and less chance of overkill, but without the fairly reliable KD mitigation. It's still in the neighborhood performance-wise of those similar powers (LR and Shield Charge), so for any suggested change to be seriously considered I think it's going to have to be a minor buff at best, or simply a clever mechanic that captures someone's fancy.

That is an issue. But including it in the damage formula would be a bit iffy unless you are going to have damage scale off the range to target when cast and make it counter-intuitively greater when further away. I think balancing slow projectiles is more of a per-power thing than a damage formula thing. Slow projectile attacks should probably consistently have better secondary effects.

The following Blaster sustain powers are still bugged in Build #3 (Nov 4): Darkness Manipulation / Touch of the Beyond: The Fear Protection isn't working. Martial Combat / Reaction Time: The Absorb tick rate doesn't match the description. And the +Recovery doesn't appear to be working. Temporal Manipulation / Temporal Mending: All components save the Absorb frequently cease to work when you zone (and upon initial log in) and also occasionally turn off for no apparent reason.

I tested those 3 in the current build (#3). I didn't test all sustains or all components of sustains. Just the broken parts of the ones I knew weren't working correctly in build #2.

It appears to be bugged atm. Both of the toons I used to complete the arc still had it more than 24 hrs later.