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Just the one question.... is there more of an end game then there was a few years ago.... and how has it expanded or improved?

This is what I am doing and why Alpha - Intuition Radial Paragon; This one is a better fit, improves slow "tar pit", Damage, & to-hit debuff's which Core does not. Judgement - Void Radial Final Judgement; Yes this is the best choice the reduction in damage on a hard target like an AV along with your darkest night is a great combo Interface - Diamagnetic Core Flawless Interface; This is a tough choice, but in the end I decided on Core. Why? It improves the -tohit debuff which I will always be a factor in how much damage my pets & MM take, while the -regen is really important on hard targets. Also note, you only have two abilities that directly cast this yourself, Twilight Grasp (because of damage proc) & Void. However since your bots will be the main casters, having this ability stack, when I tested this, I felt the -to hit gave me a better bang for the buck as I am stacking that with Fearsome stare, etc... Lore - Warworks Core Superior; The reason for the is the AI on the heal (cast will NOT hit your spread out ranged pets) & 5 mins of your melee pet vs 3 mins Destiny - Clarion Radial Epiphany; It gives you a secondary effect boost, improves to-hit, -res, etc.... Hybrid - Support Core Embodiment; Yes because of the pets Glad you are having fun! I found this build to have amazing survivability, control, with simplicity of use. I would also make sure to purchase a few P2W items and have them on your bars: Blackwand For a ranged damage pull when you need it Reveal- To reveal the map Power Analyzer- If you want to see how your debuff's stack on mobs Renewal of Light- Self rez Back up Radio &/or Signature summon Melee- When you are in a tough spot and refuse to lose! :) Goldbricker rocket pack- when flying is required Med Pack/Recovery Serum- Break glass situation (I have never used them but I have them) All the purchasable teleports Ethereal Shift- This ability can let you complete a mission which requires you to get to the end of a map when your Shadow Fall & Celerity is not enough (remember to dismiss your bots) Also.... Remember to unlock Team Inspirations at the P2W Vendor as they do work on your pets within the 20' radius... Hit F3 Gather up your pets, hit team inspirations you wish to use.,

DOH! ::) The reason there are two empty slots in Battle Drone & Protector Bots are for Sudden Acceleration KB to KD, which Pines does not have that enchantment available to select. Now why do I have all the KB (Knockback's) converted to KD (Knockdowns).... why is that important? There are several reasons why, first is your Assault Bot places down a fire patch which burns enemies for a lot of damage, KB will take them out of that patch. You cast "Tar Pit", which is more than a slow, it is a -30 Res, you do not want to KB your targets out of your Tar Pit, if your bots KB the enemies in different directions your bots will spread out which will make healing your bots with Twilight Grasp more difficult. I will edit my original post for this information. Thanks

I sold everything I got between 1-50, did not slot any DO's or SO's ever. Then I used level 25-30 Crafted IO's from 22-27 until 50. They are about the same power as SO's but you only have to buy them once & you will not out level them all the way to 50. I did not replace them until 50 & did not use the more expensive 35's or higher no need to do that. Then at 50 I bought sets as I got the INF. I bet you can buy 25/30 IO's cheap on the AH.... cheaper than crafting I am sure, again saving INF

Rockfall, Thank you for the feedback... I appreciate all feedback, especially critical feedback as it makes me think about my choices. Thank you

Which additional enhancement -Res Proc, Recharge Proc, Damage Proc are you suggesting? as I am not as familiar with Melee. Thanks As for my endurance what I am running is in my posted build. I also have 4 endurance procs shown. TWO of my many pet peeves are; Running out of Endurance, Missing with my attacks. So I always like to make sure I mitigate the chances of either when fighting +3/4 content. This drives me to have high accuracy, +to hit buff's & Endurance. Thanks for the suggestion on Buildup for Clobber at 8!

I am slot starved as well.... To get a 6 slot Whirling Mace or Cross Punch (my currently preferred alternative) I would need to get those slots from somewhere. 2 from Pulverize is easy the next 3 not so clear cut, especially if I want to grab Hasten & 3 slot it as well with Recharge. I need to figure out which powers besides pulverize is over slotted... going back to agility if I dropped kismet entirely recapturing all the Pulverize slots, using agility to make up the difference in defense, along with its endurance benefits, I have recaptured 5 slots pulverize 1 quick recovery 1 stamina. Again just thinking out loud. For the rest of the incarnates leaning toward Judgement- Void Destiny- Rebirth? Interface-Reactive or Degenerative Lore-Cimerorans (a rare KB) or War Works (no KB) melee Support- Assault (strike again) or Melee What would be additionally helpful, is if anyone has views on which of my abilities are over or under Slotted, or as Constantine has pointed out slotted incorrectly. The advice I have been given so far has been invaluable to me thank you all.... looking forward to move advice, comments etc...

I would not be asking questions..... if I did not want honest answers... As I said in my OP kinda new to melee. As to Agility vs Spiritual My thought process was if I get the Endurance reduction from agility, I could then remove a End Mod IO from Stamina & Quick Recovery, additionally thought the bonus on Defense would help if I got hit with any -Def debuffs, keeping my defense higher which would be better than additional healing. Not at all saying I know what I am talking about... hehe Whirling Mace vs Cross Punch (Mag 3 Stun +KD +More Damage) from fighting pool... why would anyone take Whirling Mace (mag 2 stun)? As to not taking Hasten initially its just something I do ... I expect to respec soon and spec in to Hasten, however it helps me better understand my characters abilities & limitations to try him both ways... that's just me.... not saying it works for anyone else. And once again greatly appreciate your feedback

Here is a copy of MDX file attached MM.mxd

Here is a copy of the mdx file attached scrapper.mxd

Here is a copy on the MDX file attached D3.mxd

Great Feedback Constantine! Thanks for taking the time to provide it! I will study your suggested improvements carefully. Why Spiritual over Agility? I was pondering Agility for its recharge & endurance reduction allowing me to potentially recapture 1 enhancement slots in stamina & quick recovery. Hasten is a power I do not like to add until I have played the character at 50 for a bit. Agree SOW & Resurgence are both easy to replace, problem I have his too many worthless powers, have to take something, which is why Tactics was also taken, at least it has value. As far as Whirling Mace (Mag 2 Stun) is concerned, I had originally planned to take CrossPunch (Mag 3 Stun +KD) instead, then decided I did not have 6 enhancement slots to make it worthwhile (with this 1st draft of my build). As far as attack chain goes... What I have learned by playing is I can use Clobber-Jawbreaker-Shatter-Crowd Control (not using Pulverize at all). It is a 4 attack chain without Hasten. Crowd Control does the same damage as Pulverize just with a KD & AOE.

I have zero endurance issues (meaning that my endurance rarely if ever drains out even in sustained battle, which is because of my other Incarnate choices & set bonuses) which is why I have no need for Cardiac. Intuition is used for is -tohitdebuff, dmg, holds, & range... more than just a hold ability

In this thread you can see what the stats looked like before my incarnates https://forums.homecomingservers.com/index.php/topic,5964.0.html As far as +4 8 player content, I do not do that solo as I do not think its efficient in gaining XP. My standard solo is +3 & 3 players as I would rather complete the mission and move on. Team play is mainly +4 and 8

My D3 corruptor build is not for everyone.... but it is perfect for me. I play in Point Blank Melee range and fight in the midst of the melee fighters allowing me to liberally use Twilight Grasp (not just a heal, -regen-Tohit) & my other abilities to assist them as needed. I have two massive PBAoE abilities in Blackstar & Void. My rotation is Gloom, Dark Blast, Life Drain.... No room for Nightfall or Moonbeam. Feel free to comment, ask questions or be judgmental ;) Incarnates Alpha- Intuition Judgement-Void Interface-Diamagnetic Lore-Cimeroran Destiny-Clarion Hybrid-Assault Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Level 50 Magic Corruptor Primary Power Set: Dark Blast Secondary Power Set: Dark Miasma Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Dark Mastery Villain Profile: ------------ Level 1: Gloom (A) Superior Malice of the Corruptor - Accuracy/Damage (3) Superior Malice of the Corruptor - Damage/Recharge (3) Superior Malice of the Corruptor - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (5) Superior Malice of the Corruptor - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (5) Superior Malice of the Corruptor - Recharge/Chance for Negative Energy Damage (7) Superior Malice of the Corruptor - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 1: Twilight Grasp (A) Touch of the Nictus - Healing (7) Touch of the Nictus - Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration/Recharge (9) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Healing (9) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Endurance/Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration (11) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (11) Touch of the Nictus - Chance for Negative Energy Damage Level 2: Dark Blast (A) Superior Scourging Blast - Accuracy/Damage (13) Superior Scourging Blast - RechargeTime/PBAoE +End (13) Superior Scourging Blast - Damage/RechargeTime (15) Scourging Blast - RechargeTime/PBAoE +End (15) Superior Scourging Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (17) Superior Scourging Blast - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime Level 4: Tar Patch (A) Pacing of the Turtle - Endurance/Recharge/Slow (17) Tempered Readiness - Endurance/Recharge/Slow Level 6: Combat Jumping (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 8: Tenebrous Tentacles (A) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize (19) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Recharge (19) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge (21) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Recharge (21) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Endurance (23) Gravitational Anchor - Chance for Hold Level 10: Super Jump (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points) Level 12: Boxing (A) Empty Level 14: Tough (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) (23) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (25) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (25) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (27) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime Level 16: Shadow Fall (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% (27) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection (29) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance (29) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance (31) Red Fortune - Defense (31) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge Level 18: Weave (A) Reactive Defenses - Defense (31) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance (33) Reactive Defenses - Endurance/RechargeTime (33) Reactive Defenses - Defense/RechargeTime (33) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage (34) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance/RechargeTime Level 20: Fearsome Stare (A) Siphon Insight - ToHit Debuff (34) Siphon Insight - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (34) Siphon Insight - Accuracy/ToHit Debuff (43) Siphon Insight - Accuracy/Recharge (46) Siphon Insight - ToHit Debuff/Endurance/Recharge Level 22: Darkest Night (A) Dampened Spirits - To Hit Debuff/Endurance Level 24: Howling Twilight (A) Recharge Reduction Level 26: Life Drain (A) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage (36) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (36) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (37) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (37) Preventive Medicine - Heal (37) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance Level 28: Petrifying Gaze (A) Lockdown - Chance for +2 Mag Hold (39) Lockdown - Accuracy/Hold (42) Lockdown - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold Level 30: Maneuvers (A) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) (36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (39) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance (39) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 32: Blackstar (A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage (40) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance (40) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown (40) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (42) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (42) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance Level 35: Dark Consumption (A) Endurance Modification IO Level 38: Dark Servant (A) Superior Entomb - Accuracy/Hold (50) Superior Entomb - Accuracy/Hold/Endurance/Recharge Level 41: Dark Embrace (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (43) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (43) Unbreakable Guard - Endurance/RechargeTime (45) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (45) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (45) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP Level 44: Soul Transfer (A) Absolute Amazement - Stun (46) Absolute Amazement - Stun/Recharge Level 47: Soul Drain (A) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge (50) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Level 49: Tactics (A) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance (50) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Dash (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Slide (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Quick (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Rush (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Surge (A) Empty Level 1: Scourge Level 1: Sprint (A) Celerity - +Stealth Level 2: Rest (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift (A) Run Speed IO Level 2: Health (A) Miracle - +Recovery (46) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance (48) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb Level 2: Hurdle (A) Jumping IO Level 2: Stamina (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod (48) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (48) Endurance Modification IO http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/download.php?uc=1445&c=675&a=1350&f=HEX&dc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

This is my final Robot/Dark/Mace MM build. I have gone through 4 respec's and a lot of testing and this build is awesome & fits the way I want to play my MM. My MM plays as a support/controller in partnership with his bots. His rotation is Fearsome stare, Petrifying Gaze, Web Cocoon with twilight Grasp as needed. With +2 Lockdown able to lock down bosses completely for the duration of the fight & if they dare break free the combination of fearsome stare, darkest night, twilight grasp etc... have turned them into wet noodles. The only real damage ability I have is Void Judgement Incarnate which further reduces targets damage output by 50% (along with Darkest Night's 30%). I do not taunt mobs to attack me & do not rely on bodyguard mode. I use the 3 keybinds which I think are self explanatory, F2 leaves Protector bots in "bodyguard" mode only, F3 is to rally my bots for Team Inspiration Buffs (Do not forget to unlock them at the P2W vendor). This is a fairly passive build, but it does require liberal use of F1 to direct your bots to attack specific targets as I rarely find "Aggressive" stance useful except when drinking :P /bind F1 "petcom_all defensive attack" /bind F2 "petcom_Pow Battle Drones defensive attack$$petcom_pow Assault defensive attack" /bind F3 "petcom_all defensive follow" Incarnates Alpha - Intuition Judgement- Void Interface-Diamagnetic Lore-Warworks Destiny-Clarion Hybrid Support Sorry but DOH! ::) The reason there are two empty slots in Battle Drone & Protector Bots are for Sudden Acceleration KB to KD, which Pines does not have that enchantment available to select. ::) Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Level 50 Magic Mastermind Primary Power Set: Robotics Secondary Power Set: Dark Miasma Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery Villain Profile: ------------ Level 1: Battle Drones (A) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Recharge/Pet +AoE Defense Aura (3) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Accuracy/Damage (3) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Damage/Endurance (5) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (5) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets (7) Empty Level 1: Twilight Grasp (A) Touch of the Nictus - Healing (7) Touch of the Nictus - Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration/Recharge (9) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Healing (9) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Endurance/Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration (11) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (11) Touch of the Nictus - Chance for Negative Energy Damage Level 2: Tar Patch (A) Pacing of the Turtle - Endurance/Recharge/Slow (13) Tempered Readiness - Endurance/Recharge/Slow Level 4: Combat Jumping (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 6: Equip Robot (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 8: Boxing (A) Empty Level 10: Howling Twilight (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 12: Protector Bots (A) Mark of Supremacy - Endurance/Pet +Resist +Regen (13) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Accuracy/Endurance (15) Edict of the Master - Defense Bonus (17) Sovereign Right - Resistance Bonus (19) Sovereign Right - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (19) Empty Level 14: Super Jump (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points) Level 16: Shadow Fall (A) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection (17) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% (21) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) (21) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance (27) Reactive Defenses - Defense (27) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance Level 18: Tough (A) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (25) Unbreakable Guard - Endurance/RechargeTime (31) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (31) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (31) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (33) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP Level 20: Fearsome Stare (A) Siphon Insight - Accuracy/ToHit Debuff (29) Siphon Insight - Chance for +ToHit (33) Siphon Insight - Accuracy/Recharge (33) Siphon Insight - ToHit Debuff/Endurance/Recharge (34) Siphon Insight - ToHit Debuff (42) Siphon Insight - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge Level 22: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (34) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (34) Reactive Defenses - Defense (36) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance (46) Red Fortune - Defense (48) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance Level 24: Maneuvers (A) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) (29) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (36) Reactive Defenses - Defense/RechargeTime (36) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance/RechargeTime (37) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance (48) Reactive Defenses - Defense Level 26: Assault Bot (A) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown (37) Soulbound Allegiance - Chance for Build Up (37) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (39) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Damage (39) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Damage/Endurance (39) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Accuracy/Damage Level 28: Tactics (A) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff (40) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge (40) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance Level 30: Petrifying Gaze (A) Lockdown - Chance for +2 Mag Hold (40) Lockdown - Accuracy/Hold (43) Lockdown - Recharge/Hold (50) Lockdown - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold Level 32: Upgrade Robot (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 35: Scorpion Shield (A) Reactive Defenses - Endurance/RechargeTime (42) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance/RechargeTime (42) Reactive Defenses - Defense/RechargeTime (43) Reactive Defenses - Defense (43) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance (45) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage Level 38: Dark Servant (A) Unbreakable Constraint - Accuracy/Recharge (45) Unbreakable Constraint - Hold/Recharge (48) Unbreakable Constraint - Accuracy/Hold/Recharge Level 41: Power Boost (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 44: Web Cocoon (A) Lockdown - Chance for +2 Mag Hold (45) Lockdown - Accuracy/Hold (46) Lockdown - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold (46) Lockdown - Recharge/Hold Level 47: Assault (A) Endurance Reduction IO Level 49: Darkest Night (A) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Endurance (50) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff (50) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Recharge/Endurance Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Dash (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Slide (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Quick (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Rush (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Surge (A) Empty Level 1: Sprint (A) Celerity - +Stealth Level 1: Supremacy Level 2: Rest (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift (A) Run Speed IO Level 2: Health (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance (23) Miracle - +Recovery (23) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery Level 2: Hurdle (A) Jumping IO Level 2: Stamina (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (15) Endurance Modification IO (25) Performance Shifter - EndMod ------------ http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/download.php?uc=1458&c=688&a=1376&f=HEX&dc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

I want to thank Janyen in this thread who made me take action to level to 50 and develop my build. https://forums.homecomingservers.com/index.php/topic,6569.0.html While I am no expert in melee characters, I have applied what I learned with my other characters to my Scrapper build. A few important points I want to make; > This is a work in progress. With my other characters I make a build, play with it awhile, respec, play with it, respec again etc... until I think I have it perfect > No Hasten. This is intentional. During my first play through I like to avoid using hasten to get a feel for my rotation & choices. I usually avoid hasten in my final build. In the case of this Scrapper build, I am leaning strongly (but not made a final decision yet) to incorporate Hasten in my next respec, "IF" I can remove one attack from my rotation (Crowd Control is not used in rotation but as a CC ability). If I can recapture the slots from Pulverize as an example, I would then be able to add to other regeneration, defense, resist abilities > Resurgence, Strength of Will, Tactics (to a lesser extent) are powers I selected because I had to select something >I strongly considered CrossPunch in this build for the Mag 3 Stun & KD (Better than Whirling Mace's Mag2 Disorient) however I do not have the Enhancement slots to make it worthwhile >Incarnates are still undecided, with the build as shown, I have ZERO endurance issues, & health regenerates faster than most damage my scrapper takes. Its an impressive class > Current Rotation is Clobber>Shatter>Jawbreaker>Pulverize occasionally Crowd Control. As I just reached 50, today I decided to do the Mender Ramiel arc and fight the Honoree, Captain Holtz. They gave me real trouble on my brand new MM & Corruptor +0 difficulty. However knowing how powerful the scrapper was I only lowered it to +2 Down from my +4 (I play on +4 normally because I have tactics & focused accuracy which allow me to hit reliably). On +2 I jumped into the center of the bridge and tanked everything losing almost no HP & when I did regen'd just as fast. Crushing Honoree & Holtz, in record time. I am having fun and while I am sure I will make changes after playing with this build a bit more.... I wanted to share where I am and what I have learned so far. Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Level 50 Magic Scrapper Primary Power Set: War Mace Secondary Power Set: Willpower Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Fighting Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery Hero Profile: ------------ Level 1: Pulverize (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage (3) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance (3) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge (5) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (23) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage (48) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 1: High Pain Tolerance (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (5) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (7) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (7) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (9) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% (9) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) Level 2: Jawbreaker (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage (11) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance (11) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (13) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (13) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (15) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold Level 4: Mind Over Body (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (15) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (17) Unbreakable Guard - Endurance/RechargeTime (17) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (19) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (19) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP Level 6: Fast Healing (A) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance (21) Numina's Convalesence - Heal Level 8: Build Up (A) Recharge Reduction IO (23) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up Level 10: Indomitable Will (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 12: Combat Jumping (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 14: Super Jump (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points) Level 16: Rise to the Challenge (A) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance (25) Numina's Convalesence - Endurance/Recharge (25) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Recharge (27) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge (27) Numina's Convalesence - Heal (29) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery Level 18: Clobber (A) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage (21) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Recharge/Critical Hit Bonus (29) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Recharge (31) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (31) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (31) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 20: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (36) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage (50) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) Level 22: Quick Recovery (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (33) Performance Shifter - EndMod (33) Endurance Modification IO Level 24: Boxing (A) Empty Level 26: Shatter (A) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage (34) Superior Critical Strikes - Damage/RechargeTime (34) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (39) Superior Critical Strikes - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (39) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (46) Superior Critical Strikes - RechargeTime/+50% Crit Proc Level 28: Heightened Senses (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (37) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (37) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 30: Tough (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (40) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (40) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (42) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance Level 32: Crowd Control (A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage (33) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance (42) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (42) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (43) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (43) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown Level 35: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (45) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge (45) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (45) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (46) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (46) Luck of the Gambler - Endurance/Recharge Level 38: Tactics (A) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance Level 41: Focused Accuracy (A) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff (43) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge (50) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance Level 44: Physical Perfection (A) Miracle - +Recovery (48) Miracle - Heal (48) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (50) Performance Shifter - EndMod Level 47: Resurgence (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 49: Strength of Will (A) Resist Damage IO Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Critical Hit Level 1: Prestige Power Dash (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Slide (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Quick (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Rush (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Surge (A) Empty Level 1: Sprint (A) Celerity - +Stealth Level 2: Rest (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift (A) Run Speed IO Level 2: Health (A) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration (37) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance (39) Panacea - Heal Level 2: Hurdle (A) Jumping IO Level 2: Stamina (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod (34) Endurance Modification IO (40) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/download.php?uc=1450&c=671&a=1342&f=HEX&dc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

Thanks, Shang! We having a lively Discord discussion right now I believe!

Not taking Whirling ... thinking of either replacing it with Cross Punch which is a better stun mag 3 vs 2 and has Knockdown as well or dropping it entirely and using the slots elsewhere & only using Crowd Control on its own

I agree with this in my newest build I have dropped Whirling Mace & picked up fighting pools cross punch for its stun and knockdown abilities. Question do you think we need the 2nd "crowd control" skill (like cross punch) or better to reallocate those slots to other abilities? I am 48 at the moment and plan to respec this weekend after reaching 50.... keep your great feedback coming!

Here is my first stab at WM/WP. I am posting it here on Jaynen's post not to hijack his thread but to consolidate our conversations... hope this is ok. A few notes... Not sure what I am doing... ;D I have added Cross Punch solely as a crowd control device, considering dumping punch or kick for resurgence, Strength of Will is there because I needed something. Unsure if Health, Stamina, Fast Healing, Quick Recovery enhancement choices & slotting make sense Open to any and all changes NOTE Modified Build! Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Level 50 Magic Scrapper Primary Power Set: War Mace Secondary Power Set: Willpower Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery Hero Profile: ------------ Level 1: Pulverize (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage (3) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance (3) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge (5) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 1: High Pain Tolerance (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (5) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (7) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (7) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (9) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% (9) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) Level 2: Jawbreaker (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage (11) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance (11) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (13) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (13) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (15) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold Level 4: Mind Over Body (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (15) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (17) Unbreakable Guard - Endurance/RechargeTime (17) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (19) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (19) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP Level 6: Fast Healing (A) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance (21) Numina's Convalesence - Heal Level 8: Build Up (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 10: Indomitable Will (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (23) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (23) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 12: Combat Jumping (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 14: Super Jump (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points) Level 16: Rise to the Challenge (A) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance (25) Numina's Convalesence - Endurance/Recharge (25) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Recharge (27) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge (27) Numina's Convalesence - Heal (29) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery Level 18: Clobber (A) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage (21) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Recharge/Critical Hit Bonus (29) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Recharge (31) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (31) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (31) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 20: Kick (A) Empty Level 22: Quick Recovery (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (33) Performance Shifter - EndMod (33) Endurance Modification IO Level 24: Boxing (A) Empty Level 26: Shatter (A) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage (34) Superior Critical Strikes - Damage/RechargeTime (34) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (36) Superior Critical Strikes - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (36) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (36) Superior Critical Strikes - RechargeTime/+50% Crit Proc Level 28: Heightened Senses (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (37) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (37) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 30: Tough (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (40) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (40) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (42) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance Level 32: Crowd Control (A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage (33) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance (42) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (42) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (43) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (43) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown Level 35: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (45) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge (45) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (45) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (46) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (46) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) Level 38: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (39) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage (39) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (46) Luck of the Gambler - Defense Level 41: Focused Accuracy (A) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff (43) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge (50) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance Level 44: Cross Punch (A) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (48) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge (48) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge (50) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage Level 47: Physical Perfection (A) Miracle - +Recovery (48) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (50) Miracle - Heal Level 49: Strength of Will (A) Resist Damage IO Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Critical Hit Level 1: Prestige Power Dash (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Slide (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Quick (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Rush (A) Empty Level 1: Prestige Power Surge (A) Empty Level 1: Sprint (A) Celerity - +Stealth Level 2: Rest (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift (A) Run Speed IO Level 2: Health (A) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration (37) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance (39) Panacea - Heal Level 2: Hurdle (A) Jumping IO Level 2: Stamina (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod (34) Endurance Modification IO (40) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End ------------

A question on Willpower. Should I be prioritizing on set bonuses, Recovery, Regeneration, & Hit points over Resistances & Defense? What Defense & Resistance levels are considered acceptable; low-mid-high? A question on War Mace. How is it best to slot Whirling Mace & Crowd Control? I find Whirling mace underwhelming & even debating dumping it entirely... Crowd Control is far more effective & it would appear Superior Avalanche (Def) or Armageddon (acc & recharge) are a natural choice. A question on Enhancement Sets. I see builds using Eradication level 40 or Kinetic Combat level 30 to grab their Melee & S/L Defensive Set bonuses over the higher premium sets with much higher defense, resists, recharge etc... is this common practice with Melee?

While you could use Pulverize? Why would you if you can complete your rotation with 3 attacks? Again I am at level 20 and can only go by what I have read. I agree no to quick recover, however I am wondering if Physical Perfection might be a solid alternative to the Hibernate style of play?

Hope someone with knowledge answers you I am building one too! :D War Mace What will you attack chain look like? I have read the attack chain should be Clobber>Shatter>Jawbreaker "If" that is true do we need to 6 slot Pulverize, assuming won't use it (outside of leveling)? How should Whirling Mace & Crowd Control be slotted? Just as we would AOE damage or should we consider their CC functionality in our slotting decisions? Willpower I am more confused about "proper" slotting on this set, Resurgence Looks like one to skip as does Strength of Will (I hate powers with a crash) Epic Pools (is Pines accurate on Scrapper choices?) I pondering if selecting Body Mastery for Physical Perfection (More Regen & Recovery) & Focused Accuracy would work better than Water Spout & Hibernate (which I agree with you is a fine choice). Maneuvers & Tactics are also fine choices. I would not place more than 1 slot in Combat Jumping and that would be for Luck of The Gambler Global Recharge, I am going to build mine with Hasten. I hope someone with Experience in these abilities jumps in to our discussion

Warworks has the advantage of no knockback attacks.