wonderdad

Glad you validated use of tough and aid self as worked well for me. Dominate is my ST bread and butter I don’t see anything outdoing it with procs and it also is at range which means can always use it when ready. I do have a bit of St hole in my build that I have to fill with an AoE but I’m fine with it. Maybe I could drop weave for another ST attack. Not a bad idea but then need free up a few more slots as well. You make a good point Def is already super high.

Can’t you put -res procs in targeted AOE attacks? Not tried out the new pool but don’t think I could. Prefer tough and weave or having aid self.

With the change in procs it appears the minus res no longer works in quake as it’s like a rain now. However FF goes off almost every time giving great plus recharge. You can also proc out Vg for damage which will helps this set out a lot when soloing. You can proc out JT for damage turns it into a nice ST hitter. For BF as other have said change to KB to KD is a game changer. Adds a lot of soft control and damage to.

Are we talking solo or for teams. If its for solo the tiers here seem way out of wack to me and some sets can become proc monsters now to. i have played most dom primaries to at least Vet level 20 so I hope I have a decently informed opion. fastest: firE safest: earth if you proc it right, plant on par. most well rounded: plant way better than people think: electric and pros turn jolting chain into a really good single target attack. Secondaries: fastest: Psy-drain psy is why keeps you alive and end bar charged. best: psy good damage: fire, earth with procs only, martial

It’s hard to solo AVs for sure really hard for a dom as they don’t have a way for someone else to take the argo. My illusion rad controller is best I have for it. Mostly because PA holds the Argo. On Ebs eating insp like others say if you need to. I proc out my single target holds for damage now so my doms hit pretty hard which helps on EBs to.

I posted my proc build in another thread I go all range and use Epics for additional AOE.

You will get better bonuses for sure not using procs. Im trading off bonuses for more damage. I run +4/8 normally. With level shift its really plus 3. I used to use a set bonus build and find the extra damage helped a lot. Tough, weave and aid self also make a difference. Lot of ways to make a build for sure what makes game interesting. A fort with out procs to me does not hit hard enough to take anything out, felt like it took an eon anyway.

+4 only if you got a plus 3 level shit in incarnate and then maybe. A snipe can probably do a plus 2 if you get lucky with the procs. Or if you have a nice damage boost going. Holds with procs are now the ST damage kings along with snipe. I play several corr and defenders and procs have total changed the game for them. Dip into the epic pool for dominate on those ATs and it hits like a mac truck. Try the dominator or controller jolting chain or whatever its called in the electric primary it hits for insane damage. Forts are a good proc build as well. Forget the melee attacks waste of time dominate will hit much harder and you can do it safely from range. The build above in Aneas posts is mine. I need to make some changes to it as I overslotted some defensive things, etc. But overall it plays pretty well as is. I have an old version of mids so its not exact. If you like proc monsters a storm/water defender is pretty dam good and pretty much a tank to. Also did a proc'd out electric/shield stalker and its a beast.

Aid self I think. Yeah dot sometimes is an issue with it but it saves me a fair amount from face planting.

You want psi damage then proc out dominate, wail, TK blast and tornado. You want to live get aid self and tough they help when stuff gets through. Why do you need KB? IW has you covered.

What are you trying for with this build you won’t kill anything and will likely faceplate like crazy if you try to solo plus 4s. Forts are now much better due to proc changes. Procs go into Domiate, TK blast, wail, and the tornado that does KB. Forget mental blast and scream they suck. I also think the AOE hold is worthless to. Go with elec pool and take AoE immobilize and proc it out to. Ball lighting can use 5 posi and another damage proc. Personally I like tough, weave and aid self. You need them for when the lucky hits get through. Preventative medicine proc is your friend. I 6 slot aid self with the set. I used to use something similar to your build and found it frustrating to solo. Now I feel like a beast. I been tinkering with proc monsters I have like 10 level 50s and find the fort the most fun and one of the most powerful to.

Have you tried Dominate with 4 procs, damage IO and a hami damage/accuracy. To me it’s by far the hardest single target you can get. I have zero melee attacks on fort and went proc route. I fit in tough, weave and aid self because a plus four boss can nearly one shot you. Some sacrifices had to be made mostly in my ST chain. Only use dominate and Tk blast so have to use AOE to round out which isn’t ideal but i prefer to live so can kill.