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Also, announced this elsewhere.

If you were looking to upgrade your graphics card, NOW is the time to do so.

NVIDIA is holding off on the release of their 4000 series card and is pushing the market to clear old stock.

So prices are down DRASTICALLY.  At ALL tiers.  In some cases, at or below MSRP.

Here's EVGA.

https://www.evga.com/products/productlist.aspx?type=0
 

If you're looking at the inexpensive end, the GTX 1650 SUPER is sitting at $200.
And that's the SUPER, the original 1650 is even lower.

3080 12GB units are under a thousand bucks.

3060 12GB Units are $400

You can hit Newegg to see similar price drops.

Note: This is NOT just NVIDIA-only.
AMD is dropping prices on their products to match.

And, if you don't mind taking a risk on heavily abused mining gear, you can find steep discounts on EBay.

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Oh yeah, may as well.
 

Needed info:

Manufacturer: NVIDIA  (Yes a FE.)

Model: 3070 TI

Operating System and version: Windows 11 Version: 21H2  Build: 22000.795

Does the game load (and error you get if not): Loads just fine.  RARE occasional crashes.  Chalk it up to random Windows crap.

 

Optional info you like:

Driver Version: 511.79

Monitor Resolution: 3x  3840x2160  All in PORTRAIT mode (2160 WIDE x 3840 HIGH)

Multi-monitor?: Yes

Graphics Preset Used:  NVSurround to merge  3x screens into a single contiguous desktop.

Overall experience (any stuttering, glitching, etc or smooth sailing): Smooth as a baby's bottom.

Any steps taken to resolve issues you encountered (both those that worked and those that didn't): Game won't run full-screen due to my screwy setup.  So I run in Windowed mode and simply have the window dragged out to full "screen".

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On 4/25/2019 at 11:31 AM, GM Dredd said:

Hey folks,

 

If you could please reply to this topic with your graphics card / gpu info and your experience with the game it will help us with diagnosis of problems and getting newcomers on-board, thank you!

To get your OS Version info - Mac users look in the Apple Menu for About This Mac, Windows users can open a run box (Windows Key + R) and enter Winver and click OK.

 

Needed info:

Manufacturer: Apple

Model: Mac studio 2022, 32 core GPU, M1 Max CPU, 64 GB ram, Metal GPU Family Apple 7

Operating System and version: MacOS 12.4 Monterey

Does the game load (and error you get if not): Game loads fine.

 

Optional info you like:

Driver Version: n/a

Monitor Resolution: 5120 x 1440

Multi-monitor?: Ultra-wide 49" monitor

Graphics Preset Used: C49RG9x monitor profile, 100 Hz refresh rate, set, not scaled, not set for variable refresh rate, Apple's implementation of  variable refresh rate (AKA Freesync AKA Adaptive Sync) causes lots of trouble with screen flickering and other weirdness.   

Overall experience (any stuttering, glitching, etc or smooth sailing): Smooth sailing except for one thing... ultra wide 49" monitor third person point of view scaling Is stuck at normal monitor scaling for a 27" monitor. This effectively cuts the distance I'm able to zoom out by half, which is detrimental to gameplay. I strategically use the camera to zoom in and out during combat, but with the 49" monitor there's not much zooming out... it's a handicap for sure. My guess is the scaling is based on the horizontal distance or field of view, so the game thinks it's dealing with a normal proportioned monitor. Also the tops and bottoms of cutscenes are cut off. Basically take the vertical height and cut it in half. Black bars half-covering their faces, etc.

  

Any steps taken to resolve issues you encountered (both those that worked and those that didn't): I did try /renderscale to scale the 3D world rendered relative to my screen size, but no apparent effect. Also tried /rendersize, /renderscaley, and /renderscalex to no effect.

 

 

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Manufacturer: Nvidia

Model: NVidia GeForce RTX 3060

Operating System and version: 

Does the game load (and error you get if not): Game loads fine.

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Before anyone shames... when I built my PC,  the video card I got was all I could afford (and about the best one that was in stock...stupid pandemic and "chip shortage")

 

 

 

GPU: ASUS Nvidia GeForce GTX1650
CPU: Intel Core i9-10850k ( 5.0 ghz)

MoBo : ASUS Prime Z490-P
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32gb (2x16GB) ddr4 3600

CPU Cooler : Corsair Hydro Series H100x

Case: Corsair 4000D 

Fans: Corsair AF120 Blue LED (x3) Corsair AF120 (x1)

SSD: WD Black SN750 1TB
OS: Windows 10 Home 64 Bit Version 21H1

 

Running 1 Monitor ( HP 25f   1920x1080 @ 60Hz)

CPU Temp 34C

GPU Temp 42C

 

Running game at max settings. No issues.

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Mac Pro M1 14"

GPU: Mac  🤘Metal  🤘  GPUFamily Apple 7

CPU: Mac M1 Pro 8-core CPU

Mobo: Mac 820-01700
Memory: 16GB

Fans: 2x internal fans + USB-powered external riser/heatsink pad with twin 4" fans

SSD: Apple AP0512R, 496GB

OS: Mac Monterey 12.2.1 + Wine Emulator

Monitor: builtin 3024x1964 Retina XDR

 

Running at High settings, no issues other than odd bit of network lag.

 

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12 hours ago, Herotu said:

My MSI RTX570 just stopped working after a 13 months of lifespan. Don't touch MSI.

 

Now I'm checking the advice from this video... Seems useful.


 

My MSI 980ti is 7 years old and still going strong.   Also my MSI 2070 super is 3 years old it is also working just fine. Sounds like you just got a dud.

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These are the main 3 components of my system is initially build as being able to be both a server and a gaming machine (at the same time) back in 2014, but has had some component upgrades since then (i.e.: Samsung M.2 NVMe 980 SSD)


GPU:
MSi GTX 1070 Ti Gaming
  nVidia GPU version GP104
  Cores         2432
  GPU Base Clock   1607 MHz
  GPU Boost Clock  1800 MHz
  Memory Clock  2000 MHz
  TMUs           152
  ROPs            64
  Memory Size    8 GB
  Memory Type   GDDR5
  Bus Width          256 bit

  Pixel Fill Rate      114.1 GPixel/s (currently at base)
  Texture Fill Rate   271.0 GTexel/s (currently at base)
  

CPU:
Intel Core i7-4790K
    Package (platform ID)    Socket 1150 LGA (0x1)
    Technology        22 nm
    TDP Limit        88.0 Watts
    Tjmax            100.0 °C
    Core Speed        5000.5 MHz
    Multiplier x Bus Speed    50.0 x 100.0 MHz
    Stock frequency        4000 MHz
    Temperature     40°C (104°F) [0x3A] (Package)
    Power               31.83 W (Package)

 


Motherboard:
MSi Z97 GAMING 5 (MS-7917 <-- click to see tech spec review)
Northbridge            Intel Haswell rev. 06
Southbridge            Intel Z97 rev. 00
Graphic Interface        PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width        x16
PCI-E Max Link Width        x16

Memory:
Corsair Vengeance series, 32GB
Memory Type            DDR3
Memory Size            32 GBytes
Channels            Dual
Memory Frequency        1200.2 MHz (1:9)
CAS# latency (CL)        11.0
RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD)    13
RAS# Precharge (tRP)        13
Cycle Time (tRAS)        31
Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC)    361
Command Rate (CR)        2T
 


My limiting factor / bottleneck is primarily my memory speed (because it's DDR3) and my GPU (its memory also, and # of cores).  I am considering a complete new system build when it can be afforded; but not right now, and there's no real need for that to justify a high-cost item in my family budget.  When I do retire this system, it'll be to have it as a dedicated server.  It runs extremely stable, and that's a must-have for me.  ArmA3 runs fine, and the only thing I'm truly held back on is on 3D rendering.  That's when everything maxes out.  I'll have to do my research but with GPU prices returning to sane levels it might be time to upgrade to a GTX30 series.  As long as it's compatible with this LGA1150 & Z97 system, for the purposes of gaming and/or rendering, the GPU is what matters the most!

 

Also I'm a believer in that being able to keep components cooler and not overheating will pay off in their longer lifespan.  I have been running that CPU overclocked like that for years, and works as well as it did on Day1.

 

On 8/25/2022 at 1:05 PM, Herotu said:

My MSI RTX570 just stopped working after a 13 months of lifespan. Don't touch MSI.


Frustrating as it is, unstable "lemons" do happen, even in good quality brands. Or it could have been damaged in shipping such that the thermal compound was separated from the hot components that then overheated.  Moisture and heat are the enemies of PCB electronics, and it doesn't take a lot of either to catastrophically ruin a board.

Also several computer part manufacturers have had some bad assembly issues in 2020 were the COVID lockdowns in China have caused them to have to having there stuff assembled at a different factory where the workers are not as familiar with the do's and dont's when it comes to things like correct application of liquid metal thermal compound or have been forced to use a cheaper thermal pad or thermal paste because of the prices suddenly spiking with supply chain issues. Asus ROG gaming laptops come to mind, which got a double-whammy when Microsoft "forgot" to let them know that one of their "data collection" changes in Windows11 in an update would break their WiFi drivers.  Microsoft's ability to know what the condition of your WiFi environment is like on Windows11 is apparently more important than locking you out into airplane mode only because of a driver conflict it created with the MediaTek brand of WLAN cards. *sigh*  But hey, if you can get on Ethernet all you gotta do is a driver update.  So yeah sometimes even software driver issues can make things go badly (Creative Labs also comes to mind with this, if you go back several year ago).

For me I don't care about brands as much as model #'s.  Because all brands seems to have great and poor model #'s once you dig into it more. I guess my point in this quoted reply is that without more details from @Herotu, condemning and entire brand with saying "Don't touch MSi" is a bit harsh.  And even then you have brands that get good or get bad depending on leadership in charge and what time span you're talking about, Dell and Apple are two great examples of that up & down & up & down with overall brand quality.

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On 8/25/2022 at 1:05 PM, Herotu said:

My MSI RTX570 just stopped working after a 13 months of lifespan. Don't touch MSI.

 

I  had a terrible experience with a Radeon RTX560. It was a fresh retail purchase, and I was not doing anything particularly stressful with it. It would simply overheat (even with me keeping the fan on constant "rocket blast"), and the MFG software offered very little in the way of meaningful controls. The experience was painful enough that I'll be staying away from the manufacturer.

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