Build a better Un-Granite stoner?

Rylas · May 27, 2021

Since the Rooted change, I've been enjoying my non-Granite tanker much, much more. Then I stumbled across this thread and was inspired to revisit my build. This isn't the current one I run, but it's what I'll be doing soon enough. Defense soft-cap for S/L/E/N/P. Res cap for S/L/F/C. No sacrifice to damage performance, plenty of recharge tossed in, and since I'm using Dark Melee, there's endurance management for when I'm exemplared and can't use Ageless.

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Caca de Muerte Best 2021: Level 50 Technology Tanker
Primary Power Set: Stone Armor
Secondary Power Set: Dark Melee
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Rock Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(3), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(3), LucoftheG-Def(5), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(37), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(43)
Level 1: Shadow Punch -- SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(11), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(15), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(34)
Level 2: Earth's Embrace -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(5), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(7), Prv-Heal/Rchg(7), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(9), Prv-Absorb%(9)
Level 4: Shadow Maul -- Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(27), Arm-Dam%(33), Erd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Erd-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Erd-Dmg/Rchg(34)
Level 6: Super Speed -- Clr-Stlth(A)
Level 8: Rooted -- Prv-Heal/EndRdx(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(37), Prv-Heal(40), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 10: Taunt -- PrfZng-Dam%(A)
Level 12: Stone Skin -- Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(13), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Ags-ResDam(15), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(43)
Level 14: Brimstone Armor -- Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(23), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(29), Ags-ResDam(31), GldArm-3defTpProc(31)
Level 16: Siphon Life -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(17), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(50)
Level 18: Crystal Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(19), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(21), LucoftheG-Def(21), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(48)
Level 20: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 22: Tough -- Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(23), Ags-ResDam(31), Ags-Psi/Status(40)
Level 24: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(25), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(25), LucoftheG-Def(27), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(48)
Level 26: Minerals -- RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFrt-Def(48), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(50)
Level 28: Soul Drain -- Erd-Dmg(A), Erd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), Erd-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), FuroftheG-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(39), FuroftheG-Acc/End/Rech(42)
Level 30: Mud Pots -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(42), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(42), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 32: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 35: Dark Consumption -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(36), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 38: Midnight Grasp -- Hct-Dmg/Rchg(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Hct-Acc/Rchg(45), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Hct-Dam%(45), Hct-Dmg(46)
Level 41: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 44: Physical Perfection -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A)
Level 47: Granite Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 49: Combat Jumping -- Ksm-ToHit+(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- RgnTss-Regen+(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(46)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
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[Follow up]

Forgot to mention that those res caps are when the Might of the Tanker proc is active. But in Mud Pots, that appears to be nearly all of the time.

Edited May 28, 2021 by Rylas

FUBARczar · June 1, 2021

So basically this is an exercise in how to make an inferior Invuln, Willpower, Bio or Shield Tanker...mmmkay

PLVRIZR · June 1, 2021

11 hours ago, FUBARczar said:

So basically this is an exercise in how to make an inferior Invuln, Willpower, Bio or Shield Tanker...mmmkay

Until the $heite hits the fan and you click Granite, then it's WAY above those numbers (110-140% Resist, 45+% Dam, all except psi)...

Hyperstrike · June 1, 2021

13 hours ago, FUBARczar said:

So basically this is an exercise in how to make an inferior Invuln, Willpower, Bio or Shield Tanker...mmmkay

I dunno if I'd say "inferior".
The playstyle's different.
And you can rock fairly hard.

Heh. Stoner. Rock...

Basically, with Stone and the modern IO and Ancillary power sets, Granite is firmly reduced from ABSOLUTE NECESSITY to "an option:"

FUBARczar · June 2, 2021

12 hours ago, Hyperstrike said:

I dunno if I'd say "inferior".
The playstyle's different.
And you can rock fairly hard.

Heh. Stoner. Rock...

Basically, with Stone and the modern IO and Ancillary power sets, Granite is firmly reduced from ABSOLUTE NECESSITY to "an option:"

Well I am glad that it helps those who like/want to play a Stone Tank. It's worthy to note that those same IOs and Power Pools put other tanks at the same level as Granite w/o the self debuffing, reduced movement, etc..

Rylas · June 2, 2021

6 hours ago, FUBARczar said:

It's worthy to note that those same IOs and Power Pools put other tanks at the same level as Granite w/o the self debuffing, reduced movement, etc..

You... you realize that's what we're doing here, right? Getting away with Granite levels of survival without any draw-backs.

Hyperstrike · June 2, 2021

6 hours ago, FUBARczar said:

Well I am glad that it helps those who like/want to play a Stone Tank. It's worthy to note that those same IOs and Power Pools put other tanks at the same level as Granite w/o the self debuffing, reduced movement, etc..

As "Mr. Invuln Is Now The Gold Standard", I'm pretty sure that this is what Un-Granite is achieving too.

Onlyasandwich · June 2, 2021

19 hours ago, Hyperstrike said:

inferior Invuln, Willpower, Bio or Shield Tanker

I'm not going to argue that ungranite Stone is top tier, but it can be built very well, and compared to invuln, can cover its psi defenses without sacrificing other IO slotting opportunities.

It also gives more thematic options for people who don't want to be a silly looking rock monster.

PLVRIZR · June 3, 2021

Never thought it possible, especially with a "budget" build (non-Superior Gauntleted and Might) only one other purple set (Avalanche), attacks are orange and yellow...about $300M - $400M, but respec'd PLV and he's back to being an awful lot of fun, again.

Left is without buffs, Incarnates or Granite (but all other armors on), right is same, but with Granite:

Here are the details:

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PLVRIZR_v3.0: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Stone Armor
Secondary Power Set: Super Strength
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Teleportation
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Rock Armor

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(3) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(3) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
(5) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage
(13) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(15) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge

Level 1: Jab

(A) Gauntleted Fist - RechargeTime/+Absorb
(5) Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
(7) Gauntleted Fist - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
(7) Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
(9) Gauntleted Fist - Damage/RechargeTime
(9) Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage

Level 2: Stone Skin

(A) Reactive Armor - Resistance
(19) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
(21) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
(21) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
(23) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)

Level 4: Earth's Embrace

(A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge
(23) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/Endurance
(29) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
(29) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
(34) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb
(36) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance

Level 6: Haymaker

(A) Might of the Tanker - Recharge/Chance for +Res(All)
(13) Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(25) Might of the Tanker - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(25) Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(27) Might of the Tanker - Damage/Recharge
(27) Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage

Level 8: Rooted

(A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance
(11) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance
(11) Panacea - Heal/Endurance
(34) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge

Level 10: Mud Pots

(A) Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown
(31) Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(31) Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(31) Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(33) Avalanche - Damage/Endurance
(33) Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage

Level 12: Taunt

(A) Perfect Zinger - Chance for Psi Damage

Level 14: Super Jump

(A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)
(33) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)

Level 16: Kick

(A) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge

Level 18: Brimstone Armor

(A) Reactive Armor - Resistance
(36) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
(37) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
(37) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge

Level 20: Knockout Blow

(A) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(37) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(40) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(40) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
(40) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
(42) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage

Level 22: Crystal Armor

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(39) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance

Level 24: Tough

(A) Reactive Armor - Resistance
(42) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
(42) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
(43) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge

Level 26: Minerals

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(39) Luck of the Gambler - Defense

Level 28: Rage

(A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
(34) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff
(39) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance
(45) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance
(45) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
(45) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge

Level 30: Combat Teleport

(A) Winter's Gift - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance

Level 32: Granite Armor

(A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
(43) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP

Level 35: Weave

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(43) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
(50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense

Level 38: Foot Stomp

(A) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
(46) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(46) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge
(48) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance
(48) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Recharge
(48) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage

Level 41: Maneuvers

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance

Level 44: Hurl

(A) Tempest - Chance of End Drain
(46) Tempest - Accuracy/Damage

Level 47: Focused Accuracy

(A) Encouraged Accuracy - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance

Level 49: Physical Perfection

(A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
(50) Performance Shifter - EndMod

Level 1: Gauntlet

Level 1: Brawl

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MTeague · June 3, 2021

7 hours ago, PLVRIZR said:

.....

PLVRIZR_v3.0: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Stone Armor
Secondary Power Set: Super Strength
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Teleportation
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Rock Armor

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

(3) Luck of the Gambler - Defense

(3) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)

(5) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage

(13) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance

(15) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge

.......

My poor old-man's eyes wail in agony at black-on-blue, and Dark-Blue-on-Medium-Blue text.

Hyperstrike · June 5, 2021

On 6/3/2021 at 6:33 PM, MTeague said:

My poor old-man's eyes wail in agony at black-on-blue, and Dark-Blue-on-Medium-Blue text.

Agreed.
Guys! REALLY recommend using the Light Blue (US) color scheme and Universale Codes.

Like so.

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Archie Bunker: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Stone Armor
Secondary Power Set: Super Strength
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Teleportation
Power Pool: Speed

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Stone Skin -- GldArm-ResDam(A), GldArm-End/Res(3), GldArm-Res/Rech/End(3), GldArm-3defTpProc(5), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(5), ImpArm-ResPsi(7)
Level 1: Jab -- GldStr-Acc/Dmg(A), GldStr-Dam/Rech(7), GldStr-Dam/End/Rech(9), GldStr-Acc/End/Rech(9), GldStr-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(11)
Level 2: Earth's Embrace -- Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(A), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg(11), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(13), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(13), Pnc-Heal(15), ImpArm-ResPsi(15)
Level 4: Haymaker -- GldStr-Acc/Dmg(A), GldStr-Dam/Rech(21), GldStr-Dam/End/Rech(23), GldStr-Acc/End/Rech(23), GldStr-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(25), GldStr-%Dam(25)
Level 6: Mud Pots -- ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg(A), ScrDrv-Dmg/EndRdx(27), ScrDrv-Dmg/Rchg(27), ScrDrv-Acc/Rchg(29), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(29), ScrDrv-Dam%(31)
Level 8: Rooted -- Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(A), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg(31), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(31), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(33), Pnc-Heal(33)
Level 10: Taunt -- PrfZng-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(A), PrfZng-Dam%(33)
Level 12: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)
Level 14: Tough -- GldArm-ResDam(A), GldArm-End/Res(34), GldArm-Res/Rech/End(34), GldArm-RechRes(34), ImpArm-ResPsi(36)
Level 16: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(36), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(36), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(37)
Level 18: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(37), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Rct-ResDam%(39)
Level 20: Knockout Blow -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(39), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Hct-Acc/Rchg(40), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Hct-Dam%(40)
Level 22: Teleport -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)
Level 24: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(42)
Level 26: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(42)
Level 28: Rage -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(42)
Level 30: Vengeance -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 32: Granite Armor -- Rct-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(43), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(43), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(43), GldArm-End/Res(45), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(45)
Level 35: Hurl -- Apc-Dmg(A), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(45), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Apc-Acc/Rchg(46), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(46), Apc-Dam%(48)
Level 38: Foot Stomp -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(48), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Arm-Acc/Rchg(50), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(50), Arm-Dam%(50)
Level 41: Rock Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 44: Crystal Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 47: Minerals -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 49: Brimstone Armor -- ImpArm-ResPsi(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A), Run-I(17)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(17), Mrc-Rcvry+(19)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(19), EndMod-I(21)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon
Level 50: Ion Core Final Judgement
Level 50: Diamagnetic Core Flawless Interface
Level 50: Longbow Core Superior Ally
Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany
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PLVRIZR · June 23, 2021

TTT, with the right color scheme.

Ran this version for TT on Indom, last night. Never needed granite at +4/8 running missions against Praetorians, Arachnos, Carnies and Council. At Warboss' behest, I took the alpha from Marauder and we stomped him, Chimera, Dominatrix and I forget what other AVs, without much fanfare.

This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7
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PLVRIZR_v3.0: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Stone Armor
Secondary Power Set: Super Strength
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Teleportation
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Rock Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(3), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(3), Rct-ResDam%(5), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(13), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(15)
Level 1: Jab -- GntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(A), GntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), GntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), GntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), GntFis-Dmg/Rchg(9), GntFis-Acc/Dmg(9)
Level 2: Stone Skin -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(19), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(21), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(21), GldArm-3defTpProc(23)
Level 4: Earth's Embrace -- DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(A), StdPrt-ResDam/EndRdx(23), DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(29), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(29), Prv-Absorb%(34), Ags-Psi/Status(36)
Level 6: Haymaker -- MghoftheT-Rchg/Res%(A), MghoftheT-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), MghoftheT-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), MghoftheT-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25), MghoftheT-Dmg/Rchg(27), MghoftheT-Acc/Dmg(27)
Level 8: Rooted -- DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx(A), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(11), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(11), DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 10: Mud Pots -- Avl-Rchg/KDProc(A), Avl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Avl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), Avl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), Avl-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Avl-Acc/Dmg(33)
Level 12: Taunt -- PrfZng-Dam%(A)
Level 14: Super Jump -- WntGif-ResSlow(A), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(33)
Level 16: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)
Level 18: Brimstone Armor -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(36), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(37), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 20: Knockout Blow -- CrsImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), CrsImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), CrsImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), CrsImp-Dmg/Rchg(40), CrsImp-Dmg/EndRdx(40), CrsImp-Acc/Dmg(42)
Level 22: Crystal Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(39)
Level 24: Tough -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(42), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(42), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 26: Minerals -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(39)
Level 28: Rage -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), GssSynFr--ToHit(34), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(39), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(45), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(45), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(45)
Level 30: Combat Teleport -- WntGif-RunSpd/Jump/Fly/Rng/EndRdx(A)
Level 32: Granite Armor -- RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(A), UnbGrd-Max HP%(43)
Level 35: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(36), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43), LucoftheG-Def(50)
Level 38: Foot Stomp -- ScrDrv-Dam%(A), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), ScrDrv-Dmg/Rchg(46), ScrDrv-Dmg/EndRdx(48), ScrDrv-Acc/Rchg(48), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg(48)
Level 41: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(50)
Level 44: Hurl -- Tmp-EndDrn%(A), Tmp-Acc/Dmg(46)
Level 47: Focused Accuracy -- EncAcc-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(A)
Level 49: Physical Perfection -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(50)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Qck-EndRdx/RunSpd(A)
Level 2: Rest -- IntRdx-I(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(15), Mrc-Rcvry+(17)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(17), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(19)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 50: Resilient Total Core Revamp
Level 50: Melee Partial Core Graft
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Edited June 23, 2021 by PLVRIZR
added Carnies

Warboss · June 23, 2021

You're build seemed to hold up well. I'll have to look at moding for the power sets on my Stone/MA (40 something).

tripthicket · July 6, 2021

I've been kicking around the idea of a Stone Tank for, oh, 40 or 50 years mow, with no real sense of tryna get anywhere. Not that my foot is on the gas now, but what might be the general consensus on the viability of a Stone/Ice tank? I have a concept, but it has to be a workable combo, too.

Onlyasandwich · July 6, 2021

2 hours ago, tripthicket said:

Stone/Ice

Stone ice was my personal choice for ungranite stoner, and I love it. Extra bonus of being able to match theme with crystal options.

If I weren't on mobile I'd link you the build, but you'll see it if searching other stone threads.

Edit for @tripthicket. I pulled up the build. It's been a while since I've iterated on it, so I imagine there may be small optimizations to make, but it does good work.

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Mother Lode: Level 50 Technology Tanker
Primary Power Set: Stone Armor
Secondary Power Set: Ice Melee
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Teleportation
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Rock Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(13), ShlWal-Def(13), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(15), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 1: Frozen Fists -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(15), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(17), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17)
Level 2: Ice Sword -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(3), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(11)
Level 4: Frost -- SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(A), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(5), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(7), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9)
Level 6: Mud Pots -- Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Mlt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), Mlt-Acc/Dmg(50)
Level 8: Stone Skin -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(37), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(37), RctArm-ResDam(43)
Level 10: Earth's Embrace -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg(21), DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(23), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(50)
Level 12: Rooted -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(48)
Level 14: Brimstone Armor -- RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctArm-ResDam(23), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(25), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25)
Level 16: Build Up -- GssSynFr--Build%(A)
Level 18: Crystal Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(27), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(43)
Level 20: Ice Patch -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 22: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(34)
Level 24: Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Minerals -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(27)
Level 28: Freezing Touch -- Hct-Dam%(A), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(29), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Hct-Acc/Rchg(31), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(31), UnbCns-Dam%(31)
Level 30: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), RctArm-ResDam(34), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(34), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37), RctArm-EndRdx(40)
Level 32: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(33), Rct-Def(33), Rct-ResDam%(33)
Level 35: Combat Teleport -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)
Level 38: Frozen Aura -- Arm-Dam%(A), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(36), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(39), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Arm-Acc/Rchg(40), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(40)
Level 41: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(39)
Level 44: Laser Beam Eyes -- SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(A), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(42), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(43), Apc-Dam%(46)
Level 47: Taunt -- MckBrt-Taunt(A), MckBrt-Taunt/Rchg(45), MckBrt-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(45), MckBrt-Acc/Rchg(45), MckBrt-Taunt/Rng(46), MckBrt-Rchg(46)
Level 49: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Brawl -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(19), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(19), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(36), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(36)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 50: Musculature Radial Paragon
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/Ice is super strong. You basically have footstomp with a better damage type, a great cone aoe (frost is amazing on tankers) , and one of the best tanker single target powers out there. Ice patch isn't super needed most of the time, but offers a strong extra layer of protection when needed.

Go for it!

Edited July 6, 2021 by Onlyasandwich

Hyperstrike · July 6, 2021

2 hours ago, tripthicket said:

I've been kicking around the idea of a Stone Tank for, oh, 40 or 50 years mow, with no real sense of tryna get anywhere. Not that my foot is on the gas now, but what might be the general consensus on the viability of a Stone/Ice tank? I have a concept, but it has to be a workable combo, too.

Only pretty much sums it up

58 minutes ago, Onlyasandwich said:

Stone ice was my personal choice for ungranite stoner, and I love it. Extra bonus of being able to match theme with crystal options.

If I weren't on mobile I'd link you the build, but you'll see it if searching other stone threads.

/Ice is super strong. You basically have footstomp with a better damage type, a great cone aoe (frost is amazing on tankers) , and one of the best tanker single target powers out there. Ice patch isn't super needed most of the time, but offers a strong extra layer of protection when needed.

Go for it!

Glad you like it!

And here's a basic stab at a nearly Resist-Capped build.

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Ungranite Vanilla Ice: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Stone Armor
Secondary Power Set: Ice Melee
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Sorcery
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Rock Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(3), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(3), Rct-ResDam%(5)
Level 1: Frozen Fists -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(13), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(19), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(25)
Level 2: Stone Skin -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(5), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(7), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(7), GldArm-3defTpProc(9), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(9)
Level 4: Frost -- SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(31), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(34), SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(34)
Level 6: Earth's Embrace -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(40), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(40), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(40), UnbGrd-Max HP%(43)
Level 8: Mud Pots -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(25), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(31)
Level 10: Taunt -- PrfZng-Dam%(A)
Level 12: Rooted -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(43), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(43), Prv-Heal/Rchg(46), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(48), Prv-Absorb%(50)
Level 14: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)
Level 16: Brimstone Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(17), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(17), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(19)
Level 18: Build Up -- AdjTrg-ToHit/Rchg(A), AdjTrg-ToHit(48), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(50), GssSynFr--Build%(50)
Level 20: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(21), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(21), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(23)
Level 22: Crystal Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(23)
Level 24: Ice Patch -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 26: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(27)
Level 28: Minerals -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(29)
Level 30: Freezing Touch -- SprEnt-Acc/Hold(A), SprEnt-Hold/Rchg(34), SprEnt-End/Rchg(37), SprEnt-Acc/Hold/End(39), SprEnt-Acc/Hold/End/Rchg(39), SprEnt-Rchg/AbsorbProc(39)
Level 32: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(33)
Level 35: Arcane Bolt -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(36), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(37), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(37)
Level 38: Mystic Flight -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 41: Rune of Protection -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(42), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(42), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 44: Frozen Aura -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(45), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(46)
Level 47: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 49: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(11), Mrc-Rcvry+(11)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(13)
Level 35: Arcane Power
Level 50: Resilient Core Paragon
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thorasaurus · July 22, 2021

On 7/6/2021 at 1:23 AM, Hyperstrike said:

Only pretty much sums it up

Glad you like it!

And here's a basic stab at a nearly Resist-Capped build.

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Ungranite Vanilla Ice: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Stone Armor
Secondary Power Set: Ice Melee
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Sorcery
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Rock Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(3), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(3), Rct-ResDam%(5)
Level 1: Frozen Fists -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(13), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(19), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(25)
Level 2: Stone Skin -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(5), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(7), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(7), GldArm-3defTpProc(9), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(9)
Level 4: Frost -- SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(31), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(34), SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(34)
Level 6: Earth's Embrace -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(40), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(40), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(40), UnbGrd-Max HP%(43)
Level 8: Mud Pots -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(25), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(31)
Level 10: Taunt -- PrfZng-Dam%(A)
Level 12: Rooted -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(43), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(43), Prv-Heal/Rchg(46), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(48), Prv-Absorb%(50)
Level 14: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)
Level 16: Brimstone Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(17), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(17), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(19)
Level 18: Build Up -- AdjTrg-ToHit/Rchg(A), AdjTrg-ToHit(48), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(50), GssSynFr--Build%(50)
Level 20: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(21), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(21), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(23)
Level 22: Crystal Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(23)
Level 24: Ice Patch -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 26: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(27)
Level 28: Minerals -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(29)
Level 30: Freezing Touch -- SprEnt-Acc/Hold(A), SprEnt-Hold/Rchg(34), SprEnt-End/Rchg(37), SprEnt-Acc/Hold/End(39), SprEnt-Acc/Hold/End/Rchg(39), SprEnt-Rchg/AbsorbProc(39)
Level 32: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(33)
Level 35: Arcane Bolt -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(36), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(37), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(37)
Level 38: Mystic Flight -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 41: Rune of Protection -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(42), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(42), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 44: Frozen Aura -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(45), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(46)
Level 47: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 49: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(11), Mrc-Rcvry+(11)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(13)
Level 35: Arcane Power
Level 50: Resilient Core Paragon
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I am disappointed that you werent able to call yourself Rocky Road!

Hyperstrike · July 23, 2021

4 hours ago, thorasaurus said:

I am disappointed that you werent able to call yourself Rocky Road!

Heh.

I-Dirty · September 17, 2021

OK now for the stone/spines geniuses to come out of the forest...... 😄

arcane · September 17, 2021

I have a Graniteless Stoner that doesn’t have any huge survivability issues (well, outside of Lord Recluse flattening me a couple times - add some energy res if you’re serious about him). It’s Stone/Kin tho so I might make another with a better secondary some day. Kin can be passable with a ton of procs plus a good APP (mine has Fossilize and Stalagmites proc bombed too) but the animations will simply never be a good deal.

Edited September 17, 2021 by arcane

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