Paragon City Monorail - Zone sorting North/South

[ninja surprise]

On the Paragon City Monorail zone menu, I get that zones are sorted by level, but does Steel Canyon *have* to list South above North?

Then Skyway has North above South, and IP has North above South. 

 

Yes, in Skyway North has lower level mobs and IP is the same level across the zone.

 

But could the menu list North above South so it's consistently North then South in the menu?

[srmalloy]

I think it's in the order it is because of the associated levels of mobs around the tram increasing as you move down the list -- AP, then KR, then south Steel, then north Steel, north Skyway and south Skyway), Talos Island, north IP, south IP, FF, and Bricks. You wouldn't leave KR at 10-12 to do missions in Steel and head for the north tram, would you?

[Outrider_01]

Been a long time, but the discrepancy could be the fact that the north tram lead to the higher zones,  so you had to zip along SC towards Boomtown to get the tram.  Simplest solution to fix the dual trans system (and player laziness to travel another 3 minutes) would to just add to the menu the other team stations.  Alphabetical order would be a low priority when it would be added, but this is long after I left the old CoH/V

[boggo2300]

22 minutes ago, Outrider_01 said:

Been a long time, but the discrepancy could be the fact that the north tram lead to the higher zones,  so you had to zip along SC towards Boomtown to get the tram.  Simplest solution to fix the dual trans system (and player laziness to travel another 3 minutes) would to just add to the menu the other team stations.  Alphabetical order would be a low priority when it would be added, but this is long after I left the old CoH/V

ummm? what? all the monorail stops are accessible on every station, as they have been for ages since the two separate lines were merged on live

[Outrider_01]

2 hours ago, boggo2300 said:

they have been for ages since the two separate lines were merged on live

Thats what I was saying.  It was after my time when I last played as it was the dual systen, but I can see former Devs just going into the coding and setting each station pretty much manually to connect to the other.  Would be why the OP is suggesting a change of order to the list, it was an oversight as the game just reads the list of connections; who else would care of such a minor inconvenience.

[boggo2300]

16 minutes ago, Outrider_01 said:

Thats what I was saying.  It was after my time when I last played as it was the dual systen, but I can see former Devs just going into the coding and setting each station pretty much manually to connect to the other.  Would be why the OP is suggesting a change of order to the list, it was an oversight as the game just reads the list of connections; who else would care of such a minor inconvenience.

I think they are actually in order of the lower to higher level parts of each zone

[EmmySky]

They are all listed by level.  Atlas at the top and Founders (Kalista now) at the bottom.  Steel listing south above north continues that theme with lower level above.

[WanderingAries]

On ‎12‎/‎18‎/‎2019 at 9:52 PM, srmalloy said:

I think it's in the order it is because of the associated levels of mobs around the tram increasing as you move down the list -- AP, then KR, then south Steel, then north Steel, north Skyway and south Skyway), Talos Island, north IP, south IP, FF, and Bricks. You wouldn't leave KR at 10-12 to do missions in Steel and head for the north tram, would you?

This makes the most sense.

[WanderingAries]

On ‎12‎/‎19‎/‎2019 at 3:21 AM, Outrider_01 said:

Been a long time, but the discrepancy could be the fact that the north tram lead to the higher zones,  so you had to zip along SC towards Boomtown to get the tram.  Simplest solution to fix the dual trans system (and player laziness to travel another 3 minutes) would to just add to the menu the other team stations.  Alphabetical order would be a low priority when it would be added, but this is long after I left the old CoH/V

Oh the fun of: *runs like hell* "Please let me get from the Hosp to the train/mish door intact!"

[EmmySky]

When you wanted to change your costume at <14 but didn't have a travel.....die by south train then run up the west wall from hosp to icon praying nothing would hit you.

[srmalloy]

1 hour ago, EmmySky said:

When you wanted to change your costume at <14 but didn't have a travel.....die by south train then run up the west wall from hosp to icon praying nothing would hit you.

Then you're not thinking tactically. Sub-14, the best way is to hit Kings Row, go over to the west side, take the tunnel to Independence Port, and then it's a short run to the IP tailor. Sure, the mobs are higher, but when you're that low, they're going to stomp you anyway, and there aren't as many to avoid.

[boggo2300]

3 minutes ago, srmalloy said:

Then you're not thinking tactically. Sub-14, the best way is to hit Kings Row, go over to the west side, take the tunnel to Independence Port, and then it's a short run to the IP tailor. Sure, the mobs are higher, but when you're that low, they're going to stomp you anyway, and there aren't as many to avoid.

Purple is Purple 😄

[Outrider_01]

1 hour ago, srmalloy said:

Then you're not thinking tactically. Sub-14, the best way is to hit Kings Row, go over to the west side, take the tunnel to Independence Port, and then it's a short run to the IP tailor. Sure, the mobs are higher, but when you're that low, they're going to stomp you anyway, and there aren't as many to avoid.

Naw, think on the fly. Just charge through it like a moron.

[Haijinx]

21 hours ago, srmalloy said:

Then you're not thinking tactically. Sub-14, the best way is to hit Kings Row, go over to the west side, take the tunnel to Independence Port, and then it's a short run to the IP tailor. Sure, the mobs are higher, but when you're that low, they're going to stomp you anyway, and there aren't as many to avoid.

Go to KR, run a few radio missions quick, get a jet pack .. then go to IP

 

Those were the days 

[WanderingAries]

On ‎12‎/‎22‎/‎2019 at 7:18 PM, Haijinx said:

Go to KR, run a few radio missions quick, get a jet pack .. then go to IP

 

Those were the days 

Back when I started the question would be "what's a jetpack?" :p

[Haijinx]

2 hours ago, WanderingAries said:

Back when I started the question would be "what's a jetpack?" 😛

Yeah but before jetpacks you made a costume and you toughed it out till you were over 20, demmet.

[Doc_Scorpion]

On 12/21/2019 at 6:35 PM, srmalloy said:

Then you're not thinking tactically. Sub-14, the best way is to hit Kings Row, go over to the west side, take the tunnel to Independence Port, and then it's a short run to the IP tailor.

0.o  There's a tailor just north of City Hall in Atlas Park.  Even a lvl 1 can get get to w/o much trouble.

[srmalloy]

1 hour ago, Doc_Scorpion said:

0.o  There's a tailor just north of City Hall in Atlas Park.  Even a lvl 1 can get get to w/o much trouble.

There wasn't one originally; the tailors were in NW Steel Canyon , E Independence Port, and S Founders' Falls, so the one people thought of if they needed to rework their outfit was Steel, because it was a lower zone. Unfortunately, it was in the high-level end of the zone, and the N and S trams were on separate loops, so you'd be running (pre-travel-power) from the SE corner of the zone to the NW corner. Kings Row was a lower-level zone, easier to cross, and when you took the tunnel to IP, it left you only a hundred yards or so from the tailor, with only a couple of spawns to avoid.

[Doc_Scorpion]

31 minutes ago, srmalloy said:

There wasn't one originally

Your response was in the present tense, so I couldn't be sure what you were referring to.

[boggo2300]

31 minutes ago, Doc_Scorpion said:

Your response was in the present tense, so I couldn't be sure what you were referring to.

Unless you want to re-scale your toon, Icon is completely irrelevant now anyway

[srmalloy]

1 hour ago, boggo2300 said:

Unless you want to re-scale your toon, Icon is completely irrelevant now anyway

True; everyone is standing around Ms. Liberty with their powers active lagging the zone while they rework their costumes.

[boggo2300]

1 minute ago, srmalloy said:

True; everyone is standing around Ms. Liberty with their powers active lagging the zone while they rework their costumes.

yup 😞

[WanderingAries]

On ‎12‎/‎24‎/‎2019 at 9:31 PM, Haijinx said:

Yeah but before jetpacks you made a costume and you toughed it out till you were over 20, demmet.

Or Saving up xp for your cape!

[Haijinx]

21 hours ago, srmalloy said:

True; everyone is standing around Ms. Liberty with their powers active lagging the zone while they rework their costumes.

Yeah.  I kind of see that as a net loss ..