Modernizing and Optimizing INV/SS - How to?

shadowrex · June 4, 2019

I made some tweaks to Nic's build. Main difference is I used the fighting pool and jumping. I was able to cram in an extra 10% defense across the board. Would love any feedback or critiques

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I don't see the point of taking both Hover AND Combat Jumping, perhaps Hover could be a spot for Veng?

Also wondering about your end consumption with Tough, Weave, Maneuvers, Assault, and the usual toggles.

I made some more tweaks last night and replaced hover with hasten and maneuvers with spring attack for another aoe. Hover was being used as a slot for luck of the gambler global recharge.

Tough doesn't actually get activated since S/L resist is already capped and is just a slot for impervium armor - psi resist. Will upload the data link when I'm home from work tonight

marcussmythe · June 4, 2019

Like the above poster, I went fighting and dont turn Tough on. Didnt even use it as a carrier, perhaps I should...

Drops perma-hasten for more damage (Musculature instead of Spiritual) and focuses more on DEF than Regen - my theory being in a team, theres enough heal flying around to swamp any regen I've got on an invuln tank, and solo, Id just rather not get hit/take an occasional green candy.

Built for EM rather than SS, but swapping secondary sets is easy (and recommended - I built EM for old times sake, not because it has any value in its modern incarnation)

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Hero V5: Level 50 Natural Tanker

Primary Power Set: Invulnerability

Secondary Power Set: Energy Melee

Power Pool: Flight

Power Pool: Speed

Power Pool: Fighting

Power Pool: Leadership

Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Hero Profile:

Level 1: Temp Invulnerability -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), GldArm-ResDam(3), GldArm-End/Res(3), Ags-Psi/Status(5)

Level 1: Barrage -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(5), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(7), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(9), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(9)

Level 2: Energy Punch -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(11), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), Hct-Acc/Rchg(13), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(13), Hct-Dam%(15)

Level 4: Dull Pain -- Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(A), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg(17), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(19), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(19), Pnc-Heal(21), Pnc-Heal/+End(21)

Level 6: Resist Elements -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), TtnCtn-ResDam(23), TtnCtn-ResDam/EndRdx(23)

Level 8: Unyielding -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(25), UnbGrd-Max HP%(25), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(27), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(27), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(29)

Level 10: Fly -- Flight-I(A)

Level 12: Resist Energies -- TtnCtn-ResDam(A), TtnCtn-ResDam/EndRdx(29)

Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(31), RechRdx-I(31)

Level 16: Resist Physical Damage -- ImpArm-ResPsi(A), ImpArm-ResDam(39)

Level 18: Invincibility -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(31), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(33), Rct-Def/Rchg(33), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Rct-ResDam%(34)

Level 20: Whirling Hands -- Erd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Erd-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Erd-%Dam(34), Erd-Dmg/Rchg(40), Erd-Dmg(48)

Level 22: Hover -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(36), LucoftheG-Def(36)

Level 24: Afterburner -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A)

Level 26: Tough Hide -- ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(A), ShlWal-Def(36), LucoftheG-Rchg+(37), LucoftheG-Def(39)

Level 28: Build Up -- AdjTrg-Rchg(A), AdjTrg-ToHit/Rchg(37), AdjTrg-EndRdx/Rchg(37)

Level 30: Boxing -- Empty(A)

Level 32: Kick -- Empty(A)

Level 35: Energy Transfer -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(40), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(42), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42)

Level 38: Total Focus -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(43), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(45)

Level 41: Gloom -- SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(A), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(45), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(45), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(46), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46)

Level 44: Weave -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(48), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(48), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50)

Level 47: Taunt -- PrfZng-Taunt/Rchg(A)

Level 49: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Rchg+(50), LucoftheG-Def(50)

Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)

Level 1: Gauntlet

Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)

Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)

Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)

Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)

Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)

Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)

Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)

Level 4: Ninja Run

Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I(A)

Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A), RgnTss-Regen+(15), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(17)

Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)

Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A)

Level 50: Void Radial Final Judgement

Level 50: Reactive Core Flawless Interface

Level 50: Polar Lights Partial Radial Improved Ally

Level 50: Barrier Radial Epiphany

Level 50: Assault Radial Embodiment

Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon

Level 0: Portal Jockey

Level 0: Task Force Commander

Level 0: The Atlas Medallion

Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve

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Profit · June 4, 2019

Ok, best I could do, softcap def to all except psi, sl resist cap, and good fire/energy res.

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DecentDefHighResist: Level 50 Mutation Tanker

Primary Power Set: Invulnerability

Secondary Power Set: Super Strength

Power Pool: Fighting

Power Pool: Leaping

Power Pool: Speed

Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:

Level 1: Temp Invulnerability

(A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
(3) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
(3) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
(5) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 1: Jab

(A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage
(5) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance
(7) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(7) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(9) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime

Level 2: Dull Pain

(A) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime
(9) Panacea - Hea/Recharge
(11) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Recharge
(11) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge

Level 4: Boxing

(A) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)

Level 6: Combat Jumping

(A) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
(17) Shield Wall - Defense
(17) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance
(19) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance/Recharge

Level 8: Unyielding

(A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
(19) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
(21) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
(21) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 10: Taunt

(A) Mocking Beratement - Taunt
(23) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge
(23) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge/Range
(25) Mocking Beratement - Accuracy/Recharge
(25) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Range
(27) Mocking Beratement - Recharge

Level 12: Super Jump

(A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)

Level 14: Tough

(A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
(27) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
(29) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP

Level 16: Weave

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(29) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance

Level 18: Invincibility

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance

Level 20: Knockout Blow

(A) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage
(33) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Recharge
(33) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(33) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(34) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(34) Superior Might of the Tanker - Recharge/Chance for +Res(All)

Level 22: Resist Physical Damage

(A) Aegis - Resistance
(34) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
(36) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge

Level 24: Resist Elements

(A) Aegis - Resistance
(36) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
(36) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge
(37) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)

Level 26: Tough Hide

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(37) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(37) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage

Level 28: Rage

(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(39) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 30: Resist Energies

(A) Aegis - Resistance
(39) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
(39) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge
(40) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%

Level 32: Spring Attack

(A) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge
(40) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(40) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(42) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(42) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
(42) Multi-Strike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 35: Hurl

(A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
(43) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
(43) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge
(43) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(45) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(45) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 38: Foot Stomp

(A) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage
(45) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Damage/RechargeTime
(46) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
(46) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
(46) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
(48) Superior Gauntleted Fist - RechargeTime/+Absorb

Level 41: Conserve Power

(A) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 44: Laser Beam Eyes

(A) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
(48) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/RechargeTime
(48) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(50) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(50) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime

Level 47: Physical Perfection

(A) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration

Level 49: Hasten

(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(50) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 1: Brawl

(A) Empty

Level 1: Gauntlet

Level 1: Prestige Power Dash

(A) Celerity - +Stealth

Level 1: Prestige Power Slide

(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Quick

(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Rush

(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Surge

(A) Empty

Level 1: Sprint

(A) HamiO:Microfilament Exposure

Level 2: Rest

(A) Empty

Level 4: Ninja Run

Level 2: Swift

(A) Run Speed IO

Level 2: Health

(A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance
(13) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
(13) Miracle - +Recovery

Level 2: Hurdle

(A) Jumping IO

Level 2: Stamina

(A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
(15) Performance Shifter - EndMod
(15) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge

Level 50: Diamagnetic Core Flawless Interface

Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany

Level 50: Melee Core Embodiment

Level 50: Spiritual Core Paragon

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Set Bonus Totals:

4% DamageBuff(Smashing)
4% DamageBuff(Lethal)
4% DamageBuff(Fire)
4% DamageBuff(Cold)
4% DamageBuff(Energy)
4% DamageBuff(Negative)
4% DamageBuff(Toxic)
4% DamageBuff(Psionic)
19.13% Defense(Smashing)
19.13% Defense(Lethal)
18.5% Defense(Fire)
18.5% Defense(Cold)
17.88% Defense(Energy)
17.88% Defense(Negative)
6% Defense(Psionic)
21% Defense(Melee)
13.81% Defense(Ranged)
12.25% Defense(AoE)
7.2% Max End
40% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
7.5% Enhancement(Max EnduranceDiscount)
7% Enhancement(Accuracy)
36% SpeedFlying
316.2 HP (16.88%) HitPoints
36% JumpHeight
36% SpeedJumping
MezResist(Confused) 92.5%
MezResist(Held) 92.5%
MezResist(Immobilized) 92.5%
MezResist(Sleep) 92.5%
MezResist(Stunned) 92.5%
MezResist(Terrorized) 92.5%
14% (0.23 End/sec) Recovery
56% (4.37 HP/sec) Regeneration
50% ResEffect(SpeedFlying)
50% ResEffect(RechargeTime)
50% ResEffect(SpeedRunning)
19.25% Resistance(Smashing)
23% Resistance(Fire)
23% Resistance(Cold)
22.25% Resistance(Energy)
22.25% Resistance(Negative)
11% Resistance(Toxic)
11% Resistance(Psionic)
0% Resistance(Smashing)
0% Resistance(Lethal)
0% Resistance(Fire)
0% Resistance(Cold)
0% Resistance(Energy)
0% Resistance(Negative)
0% Resistance(Toxic)
0% Resistance(Psionic)
19.25% Resistance(Lethal)
36% SpeedRunning

shadowrex · June 5, 2019

Here are my updated tweaks

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Level 50 Natural Tanker

Primary Power Set: Invulnerability

Secondary Power Set: Super Strength

Power Pool: Leaping

Power Pool: Fighting

Power Pool: Speed

Power Pool: Leadership

Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:

Level 1: Resist Physical Damage

(A) Titanium Coating - Resistance
(3) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance
(7) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance
(50) Impervious Skin - Status Resistance

Level 1: Jab

(A) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage
(3) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Damage/RechargeTime
(9) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
(11) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
(29) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
(29) Superior Gauntleted Fist - RechargeTime/+Absorb

Level 2: Temp Invulnerability

(A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
(5) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP
(7) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
(9) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
(34) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime
(34) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance

Level 4: Haymaker

(A) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage
(5) Superior Might of the Tanker - Recharge/Chance for +Res(All)
(11) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(13) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Recharge
(33) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(33) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 6: Resist Elements

(A) Titanium Coating - Resistance
(13) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance
(15) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance

Level 8: Dull Pain

(A) Preventive Medicine - Heal
(15) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb
(45) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance
(45) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime
(46) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime
(46) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance

Level 10: Taunt

(A) Perfect Zinger - Chance for Psi Damage

Level 12: Unyielding

(A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
(17) Reactive Armor - Resistance
(17) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
(19) Reactive Armor - Endurance
(34) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
(36) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge

Level 14: Resist Energies

(A) Titanium Coating - Resistance
(19) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance
(21) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance

Level 16: Super Jump

(A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)

Level 18: Invincibility

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(21) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed

Level 20: Knockout Blow

(A) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold
(25) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage
(27) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance
(27) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(36) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge

Level 22: Combat Jumping

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(23) Kismet - Accuracy +6%

Level 24: Spring Attack

(A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage
(31) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance
(31) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(31) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(33) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(50) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown

Level 26: Tough Hide

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(43) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)

Level 28: Rage

(A) Adjusted Targeting - Recharge
(42) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff
(42) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge
(43) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge
(43) Adjusted Targeting - Endurance/Recharge

Level 30: Kick

(A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage

Level 32: Tough

(A) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance

Level 35: Weave

(A) Reactive Defenses - Defense
(42) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance
(46) Reactive Defenses - Endurance/RechargeTime
(48) Reactive Defenses - Defense/RechargeTime
(48) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance/RechargeTime
(48) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage

Level 38: Foot Stomp

(A) Armageddon - Damage
(39) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
(39) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(39) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge
(40) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
(40) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage

Level 41: Hasten

(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(45) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 44: Focused Accuracy

(A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up

Level 47: Physical Perfection

(A) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance
(50) Numina's Convalesence - Heal

Level 49: Assault

(A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 1: Brawl

(A) Empty

Level 1: Gauntlet

Level 1: Prestige Power Dash

(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Slide

(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Quick

(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Rush

(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Surge

(A) Empty

Level 1: Sprint

(A) Unbounded Leap - +Stealth

Level 2: Rest

(A) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 4: Ninja Run

Level 2: Swift

(A) Run Speed IO

Level 2: Health

(A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance
(36) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration
(37) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
(37) Miracle - +Recovery
(37) Numina's Convalesence - Heal
(40) Miracle - Heal

Level 2: Hurdle

(A) Jumping IO

Level 2: Stamina

(A) Performance Shifter - EndMod
(23) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
(25) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge

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Set Bonus Totals:

6% DamageBuff(Smashing)
6% DamageBuff(Lethal)
6% DamageBuff(Fire)
6% DamageBuff(Cold)
6% DamageBuff(Energy)
6% DamageBuff(Negative)
6% DamageBuff(Toxic)
6% DamageBuff(Psionic)
18.81% Defense(Smashing)
18.81% Defense(Lethal)
11.63% Defense(Fire)
11.63% Defense(Cold)
7.25% Defense(Energy)
7.25% Defense(Negative)
6% Defense(Psionic)
22.25% Defense(Melee)
6.63% Defense(Ranged)
9.75% Defense(AoE)
3.6% Max End
10% Enhancement(Max EnduranceDiscount)
65% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
24% Enhancement(Accuracy)
7.5% SpeedFlying
GrantPower Preventive Medicine (10% chance, if Scourge)
302.2 HP (16.13%) HitPoints
7.5% JumpHeight
7.5% SpeedJumping
MezResist(Confused) 132.5%
MezResist(Held) 132.5%
MezResist(Immobilized) 132.5%
MezResist(Sleep) 132.5%
MezResist(Stunned) 132.5%
MezResist(Terrorized) 132.5%
14.5% (0.24 End/sec) Recovery
50% (3.9 HP/sec) Regeneration
50% ResEffect(SpeedFlying)
50% ResEffect(RechargeTime)
50% ResEffect(SpeedRunning)
22.25% Resistance(Smashing)
22.25% Resistance(Lethal)
35% Resistance(Fire)
35% Resistance(Cold)
20.75% Resistance(Energy)
20.75% Resistance(Negative)
17% Resistance(Toxic)
0% Resistance(Smashing)
0% Resistance(Lethal)
0% Resistance(Fire)
0% Resistance(Cold)
0% Resistance(Energy)
0% Resistance(Negative)
0% Resistance(Toxic)
0% Resistance(Psionic)
47% Resistance(Psionic)
7.5% SpeedRunning

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Eternal · June 5, 2019

I see plenty of INV/SS builds but no WP/SS. When I played live Willpower was still a good primary set to go along with Super Strength. Did it fell out of favour for some reason. I like INV/SS, but maybe out of stubbornness, I like the idea of a tank going through hell and surviving with sheer will and grit. Is it bad now in I25? What am I missing?

I'm trying to build something solid for a 50 WP/SS, but I see everything/SS. With all the new stuff that was added since I played, it's hard to get a good feel with just Pine's HD.

Heraclea · June 5, 2019

I see plenty of INV/SS builds but no WP/SS. When I played live Willpower was still a good primary set to go along with Super Strength. Did it fell out of favour for some reason. I like INV/SS, but maybe out of stubbornness, I like the idea of a tank going through hell and surviving with sheer will and grit. Is it bad now in I25? What am I missing?

I'm trying to build something solid for a 50 WP/SS, but I see everything/SS. With all the new stuff that was added since I played, it's hard to get a good feel with just Pine's HD.

I used to be a strong advocate for Willpower in the former game. Before Electric Armor, it was the only tanker primary that gave you a passive extra endurance recovery without a to-hit check. I hated, and still do not like, the endurance mechanic.

But it had an inherent problem, which I don't think is fixed in i25. It's taunt aura was much weaker than other defense sets. This weaker aura required special strategies and cooperative teammates to do what other tanker primaries did natively with no fuss. And since endurance relief was available through inventions, I eventually soured on the set.

On the other hand, my spines/WP scrapper, loaded with defense sets, made a quite adequate tank. Holding aggro was not a problem for her despite the weaker aura: she had Quills. But now Tankers can get Quills, albeit rather late in their development. This may be a game changer for Willpower if you want to make a Spines tanker.

shadowrex · June 5, 2019

Came across this archived build I'll be taking a look at tonight: https://web.archive.org/web/20120911124855/http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=294964

Eternal · June 5, 2019

I see plenty of INV/SS builds but no WP/SS. When I played live Willpower was still a good primary set to go along with Super Strength. Did it fell out of favour for some reason. I like INV/SS, but maybe out of stubbornness, I like the idea of a tank going through hell and surviving with sheer will and grit. Is it bad now in I25? What am I missing?

I'm trying to build something solid for a 50 WP/SS, but I see everything/SS. With all the new stuff that was added since I played, it's hard to get a good feel with just Pine's HD.

I used to be a strong advocate for Willpower in the former game. Before Electric Armor, it was the only tanker primary that gave you a passive extra endurance recovery without a to-hit check. I hated, and still do not like, the endurance mechanic.

But it had an inherent problem, which I don't think is fixed in i25. It's taunt aura was much weaker than other defense sets. This weaker aura required special strategies and cooperative teammates to do what other tanker primaries did natively with no fuss. And since endurance relief was available through inventions, I eventually soured on the set.

On the other hand, my spines/WP scrapper, loaded with defense sets, made a quite adequate tank. Holding aggro was not a problem for her despite the weaker aura: she had Quills. But now Tankers can get Quills, albeit rather late in their development. This may be a game changer for Willpower if you want to make a Spines tanker.

Thank you for the insight.

Glowman · August 3, 2019

Nic, running and loving your build. 2 questions:

1) Do you run with stealth up or just use as a mule?

2) Why stealth over combat jumping?

Thanks!

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