Can Elec/Elec be a Thing?

[Cheapshot]

Thematically, I love two things in this game: Scrappin' and shockin'!

 

I have a fantastically awesome backstory for my hero involving pee and an electric fence at a nuclear power plant and the costume I made is exactly what I want. So now the big question is, can I make Elec/Elec a thing?

 

Looking for veteran build makers who can help me create a great all-around build that won't leave me winded and with lots of AoE action. Is it possible? Can someone rise to the challenge?

 

[siolfir]

It's possible, yes, but this combination in particular is one where you might want to look at a different AT since to me it the pairing seems weakest (although still good) on Scrappers.

 

Personally I would recommend a Stalker: you'll have better single target damage from Assassin's Strike. The biggest complaint most people have with Electric Melee is that it's lacking in single target damage. What you'll give up is Lightning Field (which doesn't taunt on Scrappers), some base damage, Lightning Clap (which is usually skipped), a less effective Build Up (but due to the ATO it'll be available more often), and some hit points.

 

For Brutes, you pick up some hit points and a 90% resistance cap, and your attacks will taunt what they hit making them less likely to run away. You give up criticals and have to maintain Fury to be competitive on damage, but Lightning Rod doesn't critical anyway and Fury is easier to maintain than it's ever been. If you build for it, you can also cap most of your resistances fairly easily, or all of your resistances with a dedicated build.

 

Tankers will have even more AoE damage because of the larger AoE sizes, even more hit points, and are much easier to cap resistances on than Brutes.

[InvaderStych]

1 hour ago, Cheapshot said:

 

 

I have a fantastically awesome backstory for my hero involving pee and an electric fence at a nuclear power plant and the costume I made is exactly what I want. So now the big question is, can I make Elec/Elec a thing?

 

 

Thanks for that.  I really needed a good laugh this morning.  🤣

 

Can't help with your build, but giving you massive style/humor points.

[Six-Six]

My man, you made "peeing on an electric fence at a nuke site" a thing. I'm sure elec/elec scrapper will be a breeze!

[oOStaticOo]

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Level 50 Science Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Electrical Melee
Secondary Power Set: Electric Armor
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Havoc Punch -- TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(A), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx(40), TchofDth-Dmg/Rchg(40), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), TchofDth-Dam%(45)
Level 1: Charged Armor -- RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(3), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(3), RctArm-ResDam(5)
Level 2: Jacobs Ladder -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(37), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(37), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Obl-%Dam(39)
Level 4: Conductive Shield -- RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(5), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(7), RctArm-ResDam(7)
Level 6: Lightning Field -- SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprScrStr-Dmg/Rchg(34), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), SprScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SprScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(37)
Level 8: Thunder Strike -- SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprCrtStr-Dmg/Rchg(9), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), SprCrtStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), SprCrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(31)
Level 10: Static Shield -- RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(11), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11), RctArm-ResDam(13)
Level 12: Kick -- Acc-I(A)
Level 14: Tough -- RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(15), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(15), RctArm-ResDam(17)
Level 16: Grounded -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(17)
Level 18: Chain Induction -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(19), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(19), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(21), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(29)
Level 20: Energize -- Mrc-Heal/EndRdx(A), Mrc-EndRdx/Rchg(45), Mrc-Heal/Rchg(46), Mrc-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(46), Mrc-Heal(46)
Level 22: Weave -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), GifoftheA-Def/EndRdx(23), GifoftheA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(23), GifoftheA-Def(25)
Level 24: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), GifoftheA-Def/EndRdx(25), GifoftheA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(27), GifoftheA-Def(27)
Level 26: Combat Jumping -- ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(A), Rct-ResDam%(29)
Level 28: Lightning Reflexes -- Run-I(A)
Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(31)
Level 32: Lightning Rod -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(33), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(34)
Level 35: Power Sink -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 38: Mu Bolts -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(48), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(50), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(50)
Level 41: Ball Lightning -- SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(42), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(43), SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(43)
Level 44: Build Up -- RctRtc-ToHit(A), RctRtc-ToHit/Rchg(45)
Level 47: Tactics -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit 
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(48)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A)
Level 0: Portal Jockey 
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion 
Level 50: Agility Partial Core Revamp 
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[Cheapshot]

Thanks for all of the input! Here's Megavolt's bio for those of you who might be interested in the level of my immaturity.

 

Based on that bio this character really could be any AT. Blaster, Brute, Stalker, Scrapper, Defender, etc. Electricity is all over the place! I tried the Elec/Shield scrapper combo, but I really missed the constant AoE goodness. Should I stick with scrapper? Reroll as a Blaster? Join the millions of satisfied Brute players?

Edited March 22, 2020 by Cheapshot

[Nightmarer 2]

I am not too familiar with Elec outside melee chars, a colleague of mine used to have an Elec/Elec Blaster and he always complained about the nuke, and that was with old nukes so I guess the situation has not improved, yet, it was just an opinion. I personally found electric melee a tad lackluster on Brutes so I'd personally stick to Scrapper or Stalker. Elec melee on a stalker is awesome and you still can get further aoe via pools / patron powers.

 

Regarding electric armor, well, I never had a problem with it, currently I have an Elec/Spines tank and a Stone/Elec Brute, they're not the first choice I make whenever an ITF is going on but they rock on pretty much anything else.

 

Elec/Elec Controller (or Domi) is something I have been curious but when I start planning a build, I keep ditching way too many powers that strike useless to me so never really got into them, might do now that I am approaching the point where I do not know what else to roll though.  

 

Edit: That bio is awesome rofl

Edited March 23, 2020 by Nightmarer
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[Yapps]

Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.7
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Kitbash: Level 50 Technology Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Electrical Melee
Secondary Power Set: Electric Armor
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Charged Brawl -- SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(A), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(3), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(3), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(5), Hct-Dam%(7)
Level 1: Charged Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(7), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(9), UnbGrd-Max HP%(9), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(11), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(11)
Level 2: Lightning Field -- Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Obl-%Dam(17), Obl-Acc/Rchg(17), Obl-Dmg(19), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(19)
Level 4: Jacobs Ladder -- SprScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(A), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg(25), SprScrStr-Dmg/Rchg(27), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), SprScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29)
Level 6: Build Up -- RctRtc-ToHit(A), RctRtc-ToHit/Rchg(29)
Level 8: Thunder Strike -- SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(31), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), FrcFdb-Rechg%(33)
Level 10: Super Jump -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(33)
Level 14: Static Shield -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(34)
Level 16: Grounded -- Ags-Psi/Status(A), ImpSki-Status(34)
Level 18: Chain Induction -- SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprCrtStr-Dmg/Rchg(34), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), SprCrtStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SprCrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(37)
Level 20: Energize -- Prv-Heal/Rchg(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(37), Prv-Absorb%(37), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(39), Prv-Heal(39), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(39)
Level 22: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Ksm-ToHit+(40), Rct-ResDam%(40), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(40), ShlWal-Def(42), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(42)
Level 24: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(43), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(45)
Level 26: Tactics -- GssSynFr--Build%(A)
Level 28: Lightning Reflexes -- Run-I(A)
Level 30: Conductive Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(42), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(43), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 32: Lightning Rod -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(45), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Arm-Acc/Rchg(46), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(46), Arm-Dam%(46)
Level 35: Focused Accuracy -- RctRtc-ToHit(A), RctRtc-ToHit/Rchg(48)
Level 38: Vengeance -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 41: Physical Perfection -- PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 44: Kick -- KBDist-I(A)
Level 47: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(48), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(48), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 49: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(50), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(50)
Level 1: Brawl -- KntCmb-Knock%(A), KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(13), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(15)
Level 1: Critical Hit 
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Heal-I(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(21), Mrc-Rcvry+(21)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(23), PrfShf-EndMod(23)
Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon 
Level 50: Ion Core Final Judgement 
Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany 
Level 50: Assault Core Embodiment 
Level 0: Task Force Commander 
Level 0: Portal Jockey 
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion 
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve 
Level 50: Reactive Core Flawless Interface 
Level 50: Banished Pantheon Radial Superior Ally 
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I prioritized achieving Smashing/Lethal/Melee defense softcap, while having as many capped resistances as possible.  Vengeance could be swapped out for Assault if you want to, but I prefer having another place to slot Luck of the Gambler 7.5% global recharge.  Just eat more red vitamins.

Edited March 23, 2020 by Yapps

[Nightmarer 2]

I'd probably go stalker

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Level 50 Magic Stalker
Primary Power Set: Electrical Melee
Secondary Power Set: Electric Armor
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Havoc Punch -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(40), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(42)
Level 1: Hide -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 2: Jacobs Ladder -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(21), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(21), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Obl-%Dam(40)
Level 4: Charged Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(5), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(5), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(17)
Level 6: Assassin's Shock -- SprStlGl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprStlGl-Dmg/Rchg(7), SprStlGl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), SprStlGl-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), SprStlGl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19)
Level 8: Conductive Shield -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(9), UnbGrd-ResDam(9), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(15)
Level 10: Static Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(11), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(11), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(15)
Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13), RechRdx-I(13)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Run-I(A)
Level 16: Grounded -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(19)
Level 18: Placate -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 20: Build Up -- RctRtc-ToHit(A), RctRtc-ToHit/Rchg(43), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 22: Chain Induction -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(23), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(23), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Mk'Bit-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 24: Combat Jumping -- Ksm-ToHit+(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(25), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(25), Rct-ResDam%(31)
Level 26: Thunder Strike -- SprAssMar-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), SprAssMar-Acc/Dmg(27), SprAssMar-Dmg/Rchg(27), SprAssMar-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), SprAssMar-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 28: Energize -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(29), Prv-Heal(29), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(31), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(31), Prv-Heal/Rchg(37)
Level 30: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 32: Lightning Rod -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(33), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(33), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Obl-%Dam(34)
Level 35: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(36), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(36), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(36)
Level 38: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(39), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(39), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 41: Power Sink -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 44: Zapp -- StnoftheM-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), StnoftheM-Acc/Dmg(45), StnoftheM-Dmg/EndRdx(45), StnoftheM-Acc/ActRdx/Rng(45), StnoftheM-Dmg/ActRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Ball Lightning -- PstBls-Dam%(A), PstBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), PstBls-Acc/Dmg(48), PstBls-Dmg/EndRdx(48), PstBls-Dmg/Rchg(50)
Level 49: Lightning Reflexes -- Run-I(A)
Level 1: Assassination 
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Heal(46), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(46)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(3), EndMod-I(3)
Level 44: Quick Form 
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon 
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