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Well, had been wanting to do energy melee on a tanker after seeing Sir Myshkin got some decent damage out of it with procs, but not paired with Invuln. I already follow @Camel's guide for a fire/dark controller that's fun, so here I've gone and rolled a FA/EM tanker to try this guide as well. 😄

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On 9/24/2020 at 5:48 AM, graeberguinn said:

I would like to thank Camel for once again feeding my alt-itis. I was casually reading through the forums while I was #2 ing and then BOOM... now I realize I need some CRUNCH in my life. I feel a void in me that needs to be filled.

 

How much Inf will I be a spending on this one? 

It’s expensive, definitely. I haven’t played in two months as I’ve been working the fires in California, Washington, Oregon, etc. It isn’t a cheap build, but it also isn’t the most expensive. With a combination of merits and inf... expect to spend about 200-300 mill. More so if you don’t use any type of merits for the expensive IOs.

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On 9/24/2020 at 2:34 PM, TygerDarkstorm said:

Well, had been wanting to do energy melee on a tanker after seeing Sir Myshkin got some decent damage out of it with procs, but not paired with Invuln. I already follow @Camel's guide for a fire/dark controller that's fun, so here I've gone and rolled a FA/EM tanker to try this guide as well. 😄

Glad you enjoyed my Fire/Dark Controller! I consider that Controller one of my most powerful builds. He’s always the first into the fray so I can set up my goodies for the team, he’s almost more of a Tank than my Tanks! 

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I've been digging into a build to resurrect my old Fire/EM from live, and have drawn some inspiration from Camel's foundation.

 

After playing with the EM buffs to level 47 so far, I've decided that Power Crash is pretty okay, but I'd rather have an epic AoE in the rotation for easy firing when standing in the middle of a crowd. Proccy Dark Obliteration is also a much more powerful attack. Burn and whirling hands don't feel like enough on their own, especially with a fairly low recharge build such as I have come to.

 

I'd really appreciate any nitpicking you kind folks may see to be done on this! 

 

I hit S/L softcap, and somewhat redundantly softcap for melee as well. With no strong base to work off, I can't find a way to keep S/L softcap and pursue any useful amount of ranged defense without severely borking the power of my attacks.

 

Like Camel, I'm a bit overslotted for S/L resist, especially accounting for ATO procs. I'd also love to find a way to get closer to perma hasten, and do all this without sacrificing softcap defenses. I would happily sacrifice melee softcap if need be - it is purely incidental. 

 

I'm also just a little shy of my ideal accuracy slotting on some powers, lacking strong global bonuses from purple sets. I'm hoping Kismet will do enough to bridge the gap. In any case, I keep banging my head on it, and this is what I end up with. I don't feel quite satisfied with it - mostly due to the weak global recharge. The goal I had in mind was at least 70% global recharge and/or somehow finding a way to get ranged defense to at least 33.

 

Here it is:

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Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.7.2.10
https://github.com/Crytilis/mids-reborn-hero-designer

Click this DataLink to open the build!

He's on Fire: Level 50 Natural Tanker
Primary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Secondary Power Set: Energy Melee
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Fire Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(3), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(3), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(9), GldArm-3defTpProc(11)
Level 1: Barrage -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(46), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(48), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 2: Blazing Aura -- SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(50)
Level 4: Bone Smasher -- SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(A), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(5), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(5), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9)
Level 6: Healing Flames -- NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(A), DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(46), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Ksm-ToHit+(42), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(43)
Level 10: Taunt -- PrfZng-Dam%(A)
Level 12: Plasma Shield -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(13), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(13), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(15), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(17), StdPrt-ResKB(43)
Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 16: Whirling Hands -- Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Arm-Dmg(17), Arm-Dam%(19), Acc-I(19), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(29), Erd-%Dam(33)
Level 18: Burn -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(33), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(33), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Obl-%Dam(34)
Level 20: Total Focus -- SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(29), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(23), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), TchofDth-Dam%(21)
Level 22: Boxing -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(48), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(50), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 24: Tough -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(25), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(25), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(27)
Level 26: Fiery Embrace -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(27)
Level 28: Build Up -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), RechRdx-I(37)
Level 30: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-ResDam%(31), Rct-Def(31)
Level 32: Super Jump -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 35: Gloom -- Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(A), HO:Nucle(36), HO:Nucle(36), Apc-Dam%(36), CldSns-%Dam(37), GldJvl-Dam%(45)
Level 38: Energy Transfer -- SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(39), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(40), Hct-Dam%(40)
Level 41: Dark Obliteration -- Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(A), JvlVll-Dam%(42), HO:Nucle(42), CldSns-%Dam(43), PstBls-Dam%(45), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(45)
Level 44: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 47: Consume -- PreOptmz-Acc/Rech(A)
Level 49: Rise of the Phoenix -- Prv-Absorb%(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(11), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(31), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 1: Gauntlet 
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 10: Shadow Recall -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(40)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 1: Energy Focus 
Level 50: Musculature Radial Paragon 
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I've iterated a lot on this build, and have optimized the slotting a bit. No more muling brawl! Unfortunately, I've even lost a smidge of recharge in the process, in return for some underslotted powers like consume getting a little love, while maintaining my S/L softcap.

 

In the process, I found some extra slots, and was able to drop RoP in favor of tactics (I really like the PM proc - RoP was just a free slot for it). 

 

I'm still not close to my recharge goals, but overall accuracy is much better with the addition of tactics. I'm not sure what else I can do to push recharge at this point without sacrificing softcap S/L!

 

Spoiler

Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.7.2.10
https://github.com/Crytilis/mids-reborn-hero-designer

Click this DataLink to open the build!

He's on Fire: Level 50 Natural Tanker
Primary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Secondary Power Set: Energy Melee
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Fire Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(3), UnbGrd-Max HP%(3), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(9), GldArm-3defTpProc(11)
Level 1: Barrage -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(11), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(31), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 2: Blazing Aura -- SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(50)
Level 4: Bone Smasher -- SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(A), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(5), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(25)
Level 6: Healing Flames -- NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(A), DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(46), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Ksm-ToHit+(42), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(43), Krm-ResKB(46)
Level 10: Taunt -- MckBrt-Taunt/Rng(A), MckBrt-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(17), MckBrt-Acc/Rchg(27), MckBrt-Taunt/Rchg(43)
Level 12: Plasma Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(13), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(13), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(15)
Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 16: Whirling Hands -- Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Arm-Dmg(17), Arm-Dam%(19), Acc-I(19), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(29), PrfZng-Dam%(33)
Level 18: Burn -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(33), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(33), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Obl-%Dam(34)
Level 20: Total Focus -- SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(29), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(23), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), TchofDth-Dam%(21)
Level 22: Kick -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(48), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(50), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 24: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), StdPrt-ResKB(25)
Level 26: Fiery Embrace -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(27)
Level 28: Build Up -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), RechRdx-I(37)
Level 30: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-ResDam%(31), Rct-Def(31)
Level 32: Super Jump -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)
Level 35: Gloom -- Apc-Dmg(A), Apc-Dam%(36), HO:Nucle(36), CldSns-%Dam(36), GldJvl-Dam%(37)
Level 38: Energy Transfer -- SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(39), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(40), Hct-Dam%(40)
Level 41: Dark Obliteration -- Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(A), JvlVll-Dam%(42), HO:Nucle(42), CldSns-%Dam(43), PstBls-Dam%(45), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(45)
Level 44: Consume -- MckBrt-Taunt/Rchg(A), MckBrt-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(45), MckBrt-Acc/Rchg(48), MckBrt-Rchg(48)
Level 47: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 49: Tactics -- HO:Cyto(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet 
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 10: Shadow Recall -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Prv-Absorb%(5), Mrc-Rcvry+(40)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 1: Energy Focus 
Level 50: Musculature Radial Paragon 
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