Infinitum Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Hyperstrike said: Yup. Think I'm going to hang on 3.0.6 for now. So 3.0.6 outputs correctly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperstrike Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 5 hours ago, Infinitum said: So 3.0.6 outputs correctly? Yep. 1 If you want to be godlike, pick anything. If you want to be GOD, pick a TANK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperstrike Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 9 hours ago, Infinitum said: So 3.0.6 outputs correctly? Tossed you the 3.0.6 executable, lemme know how it works for you. 1 If you want to be godlike, pick anything. If you want to be GOD, pick a TANK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitum Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Hyperstrike said: Tossed you the 3.0.6 executable, lemme know how it works for you. Will do, Much appreciated my Friend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynnstonez Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 @Infinitum I love your builds, always have and always will mate. I was wondering, with the new Battle Axe buffs, how would you build a Bio/Battle Axe Tanker? Specifically for survivability. New to Bio, but want to see if this can stack up to my Rad/Mace. Any help would be HUGELY appreciate mate. thanks!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xandyr Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 On 10/24/2022 at 9:42 PM, Flynnstonez said: @Infinitum I love your builds, always have and always will mate. I was wondering, with the new Battle Axe buffs, how would you build a Bio/Battle Axe Tanker? Specifically for survivability. New to Bio, but want to see if this can stack up to my Rad/Mace. Any help would be HUGELY appreciate mate. thanks!!!!! Hard to build one in Mids since it's not been updated to reflect all the changes in page 5. What you wanted to know about Bio, but never asked - Tanker - Homecoming (homecomingservers.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperstrike Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, Xandyr said: Hard to build one in Mids since it's not been updated to reflect all the changes in page 5. There's something nasty going on in the Windows 10/11 subsystem in the last few months that's completely cornholing Mids' ability to function. I was working on later versions of Mids that were fine one day. And, after absorbing Windows updates absolutely refused to function. If you want to be godlike, pick anything. If you want to be GOD, pick a TANK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurtHutt Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Hey so how would you all rank the new Axe set compared to other tank secondaries? It it near the top now? I am thinking of making an Axe toon but can't decide if it should be a tank/brute/scrapper and what to pair Axe with. Any thoughts? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostromo21 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 (edited) So what pairs best with Shield for a 'natural' tanker? Axe, Broadsword, Katana or War Mace...? Ideally also a 1-handed weapon to go with the shield theme ;). Otherwise, if some other secondary pairs a LOT better with shield than any other weapon-based one, please let me know! Edited December 23, 2022 by Nostromo21 Game over man, game over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twozerofoxtrot Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 37 minutes ago, Nostromo21 said: Axe, Broadsword, Katana or War Mace...? Axe and War Mace are going to be great. Broadsword I'd avoid. If you can get Katana to work with SD please let me know. 🙏 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostromo21 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 (edited) On 12/23/2022 at 4:54 PM, twozerofoxtrot said: Axe and War Mace are going to be great. Broadsword I'd avoid. If you can get Katana to work with SD please let me know. 🙏 I've actually gone Psionic Melee, mostly for thematic reasons (tanker is called Psycho Maiden :). Not sure if that's a mistake, not many ppl seem to like PM, but so far so good. Plus I'm focusing more on Shield/tanking, so will prob need to dip my toe in the grouping waters at some point, ahem. Terminally solo carebear here! 👋 ---- Had my first full team tanking experience today! Me & one other tank, with blasters, defenders & controllers/MM - total mayhem! Just a low-level mission, but I went up almost 3 levels in under 10 mins lol! And I didn't die once he he - only got down to half life at one point due to a particularly nasty red bone daddy. 😄 Edited December 24, 2022 by Nostromo21 1 Game over man, game over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostromo21 Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 18 hours ago, twozerofoxtrot said: If you can get Katana to work with SD please let me know. 🙏 That seems kinda weird anyway, as a Katana is a 2-handed weapon in most cases (no shield), so you would want a Wakizashi as the 1-handed counterpart. Unless you strap a buckler onto your off-hand, but that's not what the powerset is really, from all the animations, eh. 1 Game over man, game over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidge Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 On 11/14/2022 at 5:41 PM, BurtHutt said: Hey so how would you all rank the new Axe set compared to other tank secondaries? It it near the top now? I am thinking of making an Axe toon but can't decide if it should be a tank/brute/scrapper and what to pair Axe with. Any thoughts? On 12/23/2022 at 12:16 AM, Nostromo21 said: So what pairs best with Shield for a 'natural' tanker? Axe, Broadsword, Katana or War Mace...? Ideally also a 1-handed weapon to go with the shield theme ;). Otherwise, if some other secondary pairs a LOT better with shield than any other weapon-based one, please let me know! I've been playing a Hasten-free Shield Defense/Battle Axe with lotsa AoE and %damage, and I rather like the way it plays on both solo and teams. I've made an effort to leverage Shield Charge, Combat Teleport and Axe Cyclone, along with Wall of Force, to target/hit/reposition enemy mobs and clear maps quite quickly. The large AoE with %damage cut through spawns must faster than I expected. It is a very scrappy Tanker. The biggest weakness with my build that I've noticed is with Psi (especially non-positional, I'm at 26% Psi resistance)... I could make an effort to close that particular hole, but it would mean compromising on the %damage procs in a rather serious way. Non-Incarnate solo positional defenses are around 40% without the Fighting pool. It should be easy to take this combo to better resistances and defenses (using different pool choices)... it would be less scrappy, but on teams that needed a tougher Tanker they probably would not notice the reduction in offense. I've been tempted to do exactly this with the second build, but I can't quite the first one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zohawn Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 On 10/1/2022 at 9:50 PM, Infinitum said: Here is another look at it also - that accounts better for the added toxic/psi last issue. This is with Invincibility tagging 1 in range. This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.4.6https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Infinitum: Level 50 Science TankerPrimary Power Set: InvulnerabilitySecondary Power Set: Super StrengthPower Pool: FlightPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: FightingAncillary Pool: Energy Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Temp Invulnerability (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (3) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (5) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (7) Unbreakable Guard - Endurance/RechargeTime (27) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (31) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance Level 1: Jab (A) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage (13) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Recharge (29) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (33) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (34) Superior Might of the Tanker - Recharge/Chance for +Res(All) Level 2: Dull Pain (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal (3) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance (5) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime (36) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb (46) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime (46) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance Level 4: Fly (A) Hypersonic - Flying Level 6: Haymaker (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage (7) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance (13) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (15) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (15) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (42) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold Level 8: Unyielding (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (9) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (9) Unbreakable Guard - Endurance/RechargeTime (11) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (11) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP (46) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime Level 10: Combat Jumping (A) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage Level 12: Resist Energies (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (17) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (29) Unbreakable Guard - Endurance/RechargeTime (36) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (37) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (40) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance Level 14: Resist Elements (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (25) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (33) Unbreakable Guard - Endurance/RechargeTime (37) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (37) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (42) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance Level 16: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (17) Recharge Reduction IO Level 18: Invincibility (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up (19) Shield Wall - Defense (19) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance (25) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (48) Shield Wall - Defense/Recharge Level 20: Knockout Blow (A) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage (21) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance (21) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge (23) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (23) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (27) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative) Level 22: Boxing (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage Level 24: Tough (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% Level 26: Resist Physical Damage (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) (43) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance Level 28: Rage (A) Adjusted Targeting - Recharge Level 30: Weave (A) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance (31) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Recharge (31) Gift of the Ancients - Endurance/Recharge (36) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (42) Gift of the Ancients - Defense (45) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Increased Run Speed Level 32: Tough Hide (A) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance (34) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Recharge (34) Gift of the Ancients - Endurance/Recharge (43) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (45) Gift of the Ancients - Defense (45) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Increased Run Speed Level 35: Conserve Power (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 38: Foot Stomp (A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage (39) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance (39) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (39) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (40) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (40) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown Level 41: Physical Perfection (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End Level 44: Focused Accuracy (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance Level 47: Punch (A) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage (48) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Damage/RechargeTime (48) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (50) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (50) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (50) Superior Gauntleted Fist - RechargeTime/+Absorb Level 49: Hover (A) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Brawl Do you have 1 with taunt? is taunt recomended for 4 star hm content? 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ZemX Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 21 hours ago, zohawn said: Do you have 1 with taunt? is taunt recomended for 4 star hm content? The only thing that's really disposable in that build is Fly, if you're willing to use temp travel. Just replace that with Taunt. Needs no slotting either. If you can't live without a Travel power you could experiment with not having Conserve Power. Might not miss it too much. Taunt isn't essential, but it sure makes controlling aggro that much easier, and the -range debuff is super nice for convincing things to close into AoE range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananiac Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 I have been looking for a build for my Invul / Spines tank (yes, it is because of theme), but haven't found any so far. So I tried my hand and used a SS build as basis. Needed to substitute some Winter IOs for classic Purples because of all the AoEs in the set, but money is not an issue anyway. On paper it looks quite ok, I think. But before I start respec and go shopping, I would like to get some feedback from the pros, especially on things like the proc slotting (Kismet and the healing procs basically... not sure if those work as intended?). Appreciate any suggestions on how this can be improved. Or just confirmation that this is the best Invul Spiner ever. Also, this may be helpful for those that are in the same alley and looking for a build. Doesn't seem to be a very common combo... This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.4.6https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Scornlord: Level 50 Mutation TankerPrimary Power Set: InvulnerabilitySecondary Power Set: SpinesPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: SpeedAncillary Pool: Energy Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Resist Physical Damage (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance (3) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance (3) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge (5) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge (5) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) (7) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% Level 1: Barb Swipe (A) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage (7) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Recharge (9) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (9) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (11) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (11) Superior Might of the Tanker - Recharge/Chance for +Res(All) Level 2: Temp Invulnerability (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (13) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (13) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (15) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (15) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP Level 4: Spine Burst (A) Armageddon - Damage (19) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge (21) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy (21) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance (23) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage (23) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage Level 6: Dull Pain (A) Regenerative Tissue - +RegenerationLevel 8: Resist Elements (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance (25) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance (25) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge (27) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge Level 10: Super Jump (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)Level 12: Unyielding (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (27) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (29) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (29) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime Level 14: Resist Energies (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance (31) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance (31) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge (31) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge Level 16: Boxing (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/DamageLevel 18: Invincibility (A) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance (33) Shield Wall - Defense/Recharge (33) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (33) Shield Wall - Defense (34) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage Level 20: Ripper (A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage (34) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance (34) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (36) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (36) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (36) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown Level 22: Tough (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (37) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (37) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (37) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime Level 24: Weave (A) Shield Wall - Defense (39) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance (39) Shield Wall - Defense/Recharge (39) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance/Recharge Level 26: Tough Hide (A) Shield Wall - Defense (40) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance (40) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (40) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) (50) Kismet - Accuracy +6% Level 28: Taunt (A) Perfect Zinger - Chance for Psi DamageLevel 30: Combat Jumping (A) Shield Wall - Defense (42) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance (42) Shield Wall - Defense/Recharge (42) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance/Recharge Level 32: Build Up (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build UpLevel 35: Quills (A) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage (43) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Damage/RechargeTime (43) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (43) Superior Gauntleted Fist - RechargeTime/+Absorb (45) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (45) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime Level 38: Throw Spines (A) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage (45) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance (46) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (46) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (46) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (48) Superior Frozen Blast - Recharge/Chance for Immobilize Level 41: Spring Attack (A) Eradication - Damage/Recharge (48) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (48) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage (50) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (50) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal) Level 44: Conserve Power (A) Recharge Reduction IOLevel 47: Physical Perfection (A) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +AbsorbLevel 49: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IOLevel 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Brawl Build Note: This is still from MIDS without the updates to the power availability of issue 5. I will probably take some powers earlier (e.g. replace Barb Swipe with Lunge) as they become available when I actually respec, but haven't got the MIDS update to work yet... That incident involving a nuclear accelerator and a banana… You know… I REALLY don't wanna talk about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperstrike Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bananiac said: I have been looking for a build for my Invul / Spines tank (yes, it is because of theme), but haven't found any so far. So I tried my hand and used a SS build as basis. Needed to substitute some Winter IOs for classic Purples because of all the AoEs in the set, but money is not an issue anyway. On paper it looks quite ok, I think. But before I start respec and go shopping, I would like to get some feedback from the pros, especially on things like the proc slotting (Kismet and the healing procs basically... not sure if those work as intended?). Appreciate any suggestions on how this can be improved. Or just confirmation that this is the best Invul Spiner ever. Also, this may be helpful for those that are in the same alley and looking for a build. Doesn't seem to be a very common combo... This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.4.6https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Scornlord: Level 50 Mutation TankerPrimary Power Set: InvulnerabilitySecondary Power Set: SpinesPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: SpeedAncillary Pool: Energy Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Resist Physical Damage (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance (3) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance (3) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge (5) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge (5) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) (7) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% Level 1: Barb Swipe (A) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage (7) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Recharge (9) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (9) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (11) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (11) Superior Might of the Tanker - Recharge/Chance for +Res(All) Level 2: Temp Invulnerability (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (13) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (13) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (15) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (15) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP Level 4: Spine Burst (A) Armageddon - Damage (19) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge (21) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy (21) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance (23) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage (23) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage Level 6: Dull Pain (A) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration Level 8: Resist Elements (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance (25) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance (25) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge (27) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge Level 10: Super Jump (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%) Level 12: Unyielding (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (27) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (29) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (29) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime Level 14: Resist Energies (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance (31) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance (31) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge (31) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge Level 16: Boxing (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage Level 18: Invincibility (A) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance (33) Shield Wall - Defense/Recharge (33) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (33) Shield Wall - Defense (34) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage Level 20: Ripper (A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage (34) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance (34) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (36) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (36) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (36) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown Level 22: Tough (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (37) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (37) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (37) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime Level 24: Weave (A) Shield Wall - Defense (39) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance (39) Shield Wall - Defense/Recharge (39) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance/Recharge Level 26: Tough Hide (A) Shield Wall - Defense (40) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance (40) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (40) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) (50) Kismet - Accuracy +6% Level 28: Taunt (A) Perfect Zinger - Chance for Psi Damage Level 30: Combat Jumping (A) Shield Wall - Defense (42) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance (42) Shield Wall - Defense/Recharge (42) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance/Recharge Level 32: Build Up (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up Level 35: Quills (A) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage (43) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Damage/RechargeTime (43) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (43) Superior Gauntleted Fist - RechargeTime/+Absorb (45) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (45) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime Level 38: Throw Spines (A) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage (45) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance (46) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (46) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (46) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (48) Superior Frozen Blast - Recharge/Chance for Immobilize Level 41: Spring Attack (A) Eradication - Damage/Recharge (48) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (48) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage (50) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (50) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal) Level 44: Conserve Power (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 47: Physical Perfection (A) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb Level 49: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Brawl Build Note: This is still from MIDS without the updates to the power availability of issue 5. I will probably take some powers earlier (e.g. replace Barb Swipe with Lunge) as they become available when I actually respec, but haven't got the MIDS update to work yet... I'm a giant non-fan of Spring Attack. The Damage is too low and the Recharge is nuts for something you're having to spend THREE ancillary power slots on. I'd swap for Impale. Finding that Ninja/Beast/Athletic Run + Sprint are perfectly acceptable for most travel. Toss in the Jump Pack and maybe a Jet Pack for the rare occasions when you need more sustained air time. Also remember that you can run around with Tough turned OFF. Because you're STILL at 90% S&L Also Punch <<<<< KICK. At least you can realize a rare, but actually beneficial effect from the power. Edited January 26, 2023 by Hyperstrike If you want to be godlike, pick anything. If you want to be GOD, pick a TANK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeraphimKensai Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Bananiac said: (your build above) I agree spring attack is garbage. It would should have either a damage increase or recharge redux to rebalance it for being that far into a power pool. Impale despite only having a 40 foot range (I still remember the days of 80 foot impale glory pre nerf) it works pretty well as it also has an immobilize and -fly component. I think hasten and dull pain are under slotted, as I like to max their recharge. I build my invulns to play at HP cap. Edited January 26, 2023 by SeraphimKensai 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperstrike Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) Okay had a chance to revisit. Here's how I'd attack it. Spoiler This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.4.6https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Redux Spew: Level 50 Mutation TankerPrimary Power Set: InvulnerabilitySecondary Power Set: SpinesPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: LeadershipAncillary Pool: Pyre Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Resist Physical Damage (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance (3) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance (3) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge (5) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge (5) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% (7) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) Level 1: Barb Swipe (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage (7) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance (9) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (9) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (11) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (11) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold Level 2: Temp Invulnerability (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (15) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (17) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (17) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime Level 4: Spine Burst (A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage (19) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance (19) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (21) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (21) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (23) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown Level 6: Dull Pain (A) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +AbsorbLevel 8: Resist Elements (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance (23) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance (25) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge (25) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge Level 10: Taunt (A) Perfect Zinger - Chance for Psi DamageLevel 12: Unyielding (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (27) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (27) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (29) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime Level 14: Resist Energies (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance (29) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance (31) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge (31) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge Level 16: Ripper (A) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage (31) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Recharge (33) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (33) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (33) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (34) Superior Might of the Tanker - Recharge/Chance for +Res(All) Level 18: Invincibility (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (34) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (34) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage Level 20: Build Up Hamidon Origin:Membrane ExposureLevel 22: Kick (A) Force Feedback - Chance for +RechargeLevel 24: Tough (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (36) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (36) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (37) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime Level 26: Tough Hide (A) Shield Wall - Defense (37) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance (37) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (39) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) Level 28: Impale (A) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage (39) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/RechargeTime (39) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (40) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (40) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (40) Superior Winter's Bite - Recharge/Chance for -Speed & -Recharge Level 30: Weave (A) Shield Wall - Defense (42) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance (42) Shield Wall - Defense/Recharge (42) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance/Recharge Level 32: Combat Jumping (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (43) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 35: Quills (A) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage (43) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Damage/RechargeTime (43) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (45) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (45) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (45) Superior Gauntleted Fist - RechargeTime/+Absorb Level 38: Throw Spines (A) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage (46) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance (46) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (46) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (48) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime Level 41: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (48) Recharge Reduction IO Level 44: Char (A) Superior Entomb - Accuracy/Hold (48) Superior Entomb - Hold/Recharge (50) Superior Entomb - Endurance/Recharge (50) Superior Entomb - Accuracy/Hold/Endurance (50) Superior Entomb - Accuracy/Hold/Endurance/Recharge Level 47: Super Jump (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)Level 49: Assault (A) Endurance Reduction IOLevel 1: Brawl (A) EmptyLevel 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Sprint | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1663;733;1466;HEX;| |78DA7594CB4F135114C6BF69078152C452A040A1BCC452900A2EDD682262409A103| |16E49952B4C6C86A62D0A7BF1B153D4B8F1B9F3B9534451E383A56E7C01FA37A026| |6A74574F7BE6E005E34DA6FDDD3967CEF9EE37F74E6CB2C7FBE6F5C02E18DEDD897| |83A3D7C206E1F55A9A2D844269EB1C66DD0F0EC572313938D434975BC90A6214E19| |EE5147949D56D13EFBD844C256A9F8212B6165A6FC4E38A6124A45879296ADD2BE3| |E7B4CA5949D890A940E8E8F27A2BDD6E858C6B247BDF9D9808A53F6A8273FA16E6A| |A44CEE8FA8547ACC4AFAF624ADC3D1C1A9941A8EC5D319959AAA2641CD74BD2DA61| |F0332B205749BA661132E84041A184C34090408EA4D6CC07637D06D62360C7DE4CA| |9C35F3910D38C750841981F30C1E5C10B8C8F08ED4189A1AB7811FDC60237E326CC| |22F81DF0C73D4DBAD2FC18DCB5CAE1C5704AE3254E09AC075862ADC60784FBD0BB4| |3228C00A37F84091425D55A17854251E558B47D5E2D1235255AC972B46DA952F371| |F014AF47225B2C85A5964AD2CB24E16B9481A4AF5874A45439D6808898690689827| |0D65BA3365F8C8E542586468C492C0B2C02786267C6658A2DE3E637597645D3E541| |84E4AA5C077CE7D4C2DFD5A4BC38F1DF46FBAD122E0A2C350F9F72D675189697686| |8C4540DB45EE8038D322CEB488339BC599655257A33B53837E49E915E863D8827D0| |C4F4866507726889BA693724BE03643187704EE0ADC63304970BDDEBB5E7A47A477| |047B051C1155F450836E5183D8D92E763E0DF3315C95D78C13A693322D7092612B4| |E099C1638C3F08CCAB46A7E9AADB8CF914E3C10981578C8B00D730CCDA4B34DD7D9| |860E38290EE4F64E87966276E0B95479C1D08D9702AF04161802D420AA1F9128826| |C513945BAF44817ED303E10E6DA0F4DEEA28188B9F63B961D587783AE4E2E3168EA| |018A18087264C5F3BF67BEAE8BD07E6D62A95E1C341CE8E753F7E5DF2A6D5CE5DBB| |A08E12597F3799B61C82D26BBD34FAC2F66A19D9CD22467FF00E506D840| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| (A) Run Speed IO Level 2: Rest (A) Interrupt Reduction IO Level 1: Swift (A) Run Speed IO Level 1: Health (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance (13) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery (13) Miracle - +Recovery Level 1: Hurdle (A) Jumping IO Level 1: Stamina (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (15) Performance Shifter - EndMod Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon Level 47: Double Jump------------ Edited January 27, 2023 by Hyperstrike 1 If you want to be godlike, pick anything. 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Bananiac Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 23 hours ago, Hyperstrike said: I'm a giant non-fan of Spring Attack. The Damage is too low and the Recharge is nuts for something you're having to spend THREE ancillary power slots on. I'd swap for Impale. Finding that Ninja/Beast/Athletic Run + Sprint are perfectly acceptable for most travel. Toss in the Jump Pack and maybe a Jet Pack for the rare occasions when you need more sustained air time. Also remember that you can run around with Tough turned OFF. Because you're STILL at 90% S&L Also Punch <<<<< KICK. At least you can realize a rare, but actually beneficial effect from the power. I know you can build around travel powers. however, I like my toons to always have one just for thematic reasons. So here I go with Leaping bc I find combat jumping more usefull on a melee toon than Hover, take the Leap for travel, and then I am already qualified for Spring Attack. And I absolutely love that power as an opener to zoom into a mob and knock them down. Not too much concerned about the mediocre benchmark. I just like it for style 😎 I wasn't aware tho about the difference between Kick and Punch. What is the effect that comes into play here? And thx for the heads up on Tough, wasn't thinking about that either. That incident involving a nuclear accelerator and a banana… You know… I REALLY don't wanna talk about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLVRIZR Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bananiac said: I wasn't aware tho about the difference between Kick and Punch. What is the effect that comes into play here? Kick takes the Force Feedback chance for +Recharge proc. Doesn't fire often, but when it does, it's something. 1 Reunion - JAWBRKR (Inv/SJ Tank), Lich-ilicious (Necro/Dark MM) Torchbearer - Will Power-Flame (WP/Fire Tank), Frostee-Freeze (Ice/Emp Troller), DARKNESSREIGNS (Inv/DM Tank), BALLBUSTR (Inv/SS Tank) Indomitable - PLVRIZR (Stone/SS Tank), The Atomic Warden (Rad/Rad Defender), FACESMSHR (EM/EA Brute) Excelsior - NUTCRCKR (Inv/SS Tank) - VL500+, DRKSTNITE (DA/DM Tank), Nosfera-too (Kin/Dark Defender), FIREBLLR (FIre/Therm Corr), THUGSRUS (Thugs/Dark MM), Marshal Mayhem (Fire/MA Tank), SLICRDICR (DB/WP Scrap), NECROTANK (SD/DM Tank), FRMRBRWN (Spines/Fire Brute), AVLANCH (Ice/Stone Tank), SWMPTHNG (Bio/Rad Tank), FREEZRBRN (Fire/Ice Tank), ZZAAPP (Elec/Elec Brute), Voltaic Thunderbolt (Elec/Elec Tank) Lemme Axe You Somethin (Rad/Axe Tank), PWDRKEG (Fire/FIre/Pyre Tank), ATMSMSHR (Rad/SS Tank), Morphology of Flame (Bio/Fire Tank) Everlasting - MISSADVENTUR (Inv/SS Tank), Mace to the Face (SD/WM Tank) Retail 2004 (pre-I1) - 2012 lights out; Feb. 2020 - present Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperstrike Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 1 hour ago, PLVRIZR said: Kick takes the Force Feedback chance for +Recharge proc. Doesn't fire often, but when it does, it's something. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS! If you want to be godlike, pick anything. If you want to be GOD, pick a TANK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperstrike Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Bananiac said: I wasn't aware tho about the difference between Kick and Punch. What is the effect that comes into play here? And thx for the heads up on Tough, wasn't thinking about that either. Friends shouldn't let friends waste Endurance.... 😉 Punch, if you're only single-slotting it, isn't really delivering anything. And there's nothing really clever to slot in there. Kick at least has the Force Feedback proc. As PLVRIZR says, it doesn't fire off all THAT often, but at least you're getting a chance of SOME sort of benefit out of it. Kinda like playing the lottery. 1 1 If you want to be godlike, pick anything. If you want to be GOD, pick a TANK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananiac Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 3 hours ago, PLVRIZR said: Kick takes the Force Feedback chance for +Recharge proc. Doesn't fire often, but when it does, it's something. Ah, yes of course. But for the proc to trigger I would have to use Kick in my rotation regularly, right? That incident involving a nuclear accelerator and a banana… You know… I REALLY don't wanna talk about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobbledigook Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Bananiac said: Ah, yes of course. But for the proc to trigger I would have to use Kick in my rotation regularly, right? With only an FF proc slotted in kick i would not bother using it at all. It may or may not proc, it may or may not hit with no accuracy added and it will do no damage and lower your dps. The buff only lasts 5 seconds anyway and that is if it even procs. It is good in a slotted power that is used in a rotation though. Delete it from the build and you will get a better picture of that builds recharge. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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