Thugs/Pain

[Shock Star]

I currently have a Thugs/pain mastermind and I wanna know how to get the most mileage out of this combo. I've been told that Thugs paired with anything is pretty deadly, though I see tons of Thugs/Time builds in this forum.

 

Here's what I've got so far...

 

Villain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.1.25
https://github.com/Crytilis/mids-reborn-hero-designer

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Level 50 Mutation Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Thugs
Secondary Power Set: Pain Domination
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Call Thugs -- SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx(3), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprCmmoft-Rchg/PetAoEDef(7)
Level 1: Nullify Pain -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(7), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(9), Prv-Heal/Rchg(9), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(11), Prv-Absorb%(46)
Level 2: Dual Wield -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(11), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(19), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(19)
Level 4: Share Pain -- DctWnd-Rchg(A), DctWnd-EndRdx/Rchg(13), DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx(15), DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(15), DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(17), DctWnd-Heal(17)
Level 6: Equip Thugs -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 8: Boxing -- Dmg-I(A)
Level 10: Conduit of Pain -- PwrTrns-EndMod(A), PwrTrns-Dam/Rech(25), PwrTrns-Dam/EndMod(27), PwrTrns-Dam/Acc/End(45), PwrTrns-Dam/Acc/Rech/End(45), PwrTrns-+Heal(46)
Level 12: Call Enforcer -- SprMarofS-Dmg(A), SprMarofS-Dmg/EndRdx(21), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg(21), SprMarofS-Acc/EndRdx(23), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23), SprMarofS-EndRdx/+Resist/+Regen(25)
Level 14: Tough -- ImpArm-ResPsi(A), ImpArm-ResDam(27), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(29)
Level 16: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 18: Gang War -- SlbAll-Dmg(A), SlbAll-Dmg/Rchg(29), SlbAll-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), SlbAll-Acc/Rchg(31), SlbAll-Dmg/EndRdx(31), SlbAll-Build%(33)
Level 20: Combat Jumping -- ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(A), Rct-ResDam%(33), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(33)
Level 22: Suppress Pain -- DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx(A), DctWnd-Heal(34), DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(34), DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(34)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 26: Super Speed -- Run-I(A)
Level 28: World of Pain -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(36), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(36), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(37), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(43), UnbGrd-Max HP%(43)
Level 30: Call Bruiser -- SvrRgh-PetResDam(A), SvrRgh-Acc/Dmg(37), SvrRgh-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), SvrRgh-Dmg/EndRdx(39), SvrRgh-Acc/EndRdx(39), SvrRgh-Acc(39)
Level 32: Upgrade Equipment -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 35: Anguishing Cry -- TchofLadG-%Dam(A), TchofLadG-DefDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(46), TchofLadG-DefDeb/Rchg(48), TchofLadG-DefDeb(48), TchofLadG-Rchg/EndRdx(48)
Level 38: Painbringer -- NmnCnv-Heal(A), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(40), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(40), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 41: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(42), LucoftheG-Def(42), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(42)
Level 44: Assault -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 47: Tactics -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Scorpion Shield -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(50), Rct-Def/Rchg(50), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Supremacy
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(43), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(45)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 1: Punk
Level 1: Arsonist
Level 12: Enforcer
Level 30: Bruiser
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EDIT: Money is no object for this build. I want the deadliest Thugs/Pain MM Possible.

Edited August 9, 2020 by Shock Star

[Littlun]

I'm not familiar with Pain Domination, but  thug-wise:

 

Soulbound allegiance: chance for Build Up gets the most mileage on the Bruiser. He already does a huge portion of your overall pet damage and this IO procs like crazy.

 

The Superior Mark of Supremacy ATO set can be broken up three ways to get three -10% recharge bonuses.

 

It's highly effective to frankenslot T2 and T3 with acc/damage IOs and damage/-res procs, and the Gaussian's chance to Build Up proc in the T2.

 

I recommend concentrating the pet +def and +res aura IOs in your T1 and Gang War powers. They both do low damage in the grand scheme of things and it'll free up room in your T2 and T3 for the -res and damage procs.

[Coyote]

Here is the build I'm planning.

 

Spoiler

http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/download.php?uc=1550&c=734&a=1468&f=HEX&dc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

 

For your version, some notes:

You don't have to stick to a single set in a power, or 6-slot some sets if the 6th slot bonus isn't great. Doctored Wounds' main bonus is at 5 slots (Recharge), so instead of 6-slotting 1 power with it and 4-slotting another, 5-slot both with it.

Conduit of Pain definitely doesn't need 6-slotting, 1 slot is fine in it. Use the saved slots to 6-slot Painbringer and Dual Wield and get two Ranged Defense bonuses.

Assault and Tactics don't need Recharge. Assault uses End Reduction, and Tactics usually a End Red/To Hit Buff