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On 6/12/2021 at 3:44 AM, Force Redux said:

Thanks @Nexros, I'm only on my phone. 

 

But I'll say this, I like about 25 Ranged Defense on /Dark, combined with -ToHit, then pump up resistances. Shadowfall and Demons gives a good base for building on.

 

I've gone higher on def', pushed the -to hit and taken the resistances as far as I can with the 1st build (minus tweaking the build and the uniques for the Pets...) so broadly the same formula.

 

I found this thread very informative.  So many ideas, it's hard to try them all straight out of the gate.

 

Have been finding good builds over the last year or so and tweaking them.  But this time I have my own idea to build on the fly and finding this excellent thread perused the compelling guide to 'how it is' with Miasma.  (A set I never quite got there with on my Dark/Dark defender who sits parked on L41+.  What's the point of dark if I hit so gently and get mezzed?  Thought I.)

 

Probably one of the most authoritative and enjoyable guides on HC.  And I've read one or two.  An epiphany of Miasma.

 

Demon Girl.

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This is my current build on live. I never have end problems. I use HT offensively all the time.  I like whips.  I just was exemp'd down for SBB and it was a cakewalk still. 

My incarnates are musculature, clarion, reactive (I think), and the higher % support hybird.  This MM is so good that my Beasts/Kin feels like a wet noodle.

 

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6 hours ago, Force Redux said:

Hybrid support does buff pets. One version(radial??) is double buff numbers for pets, too

 

Now that is interesting(!) to know.  😮  I find some of the incarnate descriptions a little vague at times.  Double buff number for the pets would be worth chasing.

 

Once I 'cap' out with initial builds, I then like to experiment with the incarnates to see if I can 'tune' for optimal performance.  Sometimes I will change the alpha, the destiny or even go from the left side to the radial right side of the incarnate tree.

 

Demon Girl.

 

 

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Necro/Dark was the first and only MM I took to 50 on live. 

 

Always seemed to be underrated to me. Not much I couldn't handle. Only the most pita AV's gave me real trouble.

 

Pretty sure I'll be rolling one again soon.

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6 hours ago, 1seanv23 said:

Necro/Dark was the first and only MM I took to 50 on live. 

 

Always seemed to be underrated to me. Not much I couldn't handle. Only the most pita AV's gave me real trouble.

 

Pretty sure I'll be rolling one again soon.

 

I had one back on live, too, and its a classical pairing, though probably now is a bit overlooked for Demons these days, though I still see plenty of Necro/ running around. I agree, I think Necro/Dark is one of the strongest pairings for Necro, and really emphasizes the controllery-ness of Necromancy. I have one incarnated on Everlasting these days, myself. 

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Thanks @1seanv23 - yes, so many great guides on the fold forums, now just adrift in the memories of Wayback Machine. I am glad my guide helped a number of folks. 

 

Definitely catch me on @Force Redux on Everflasting. I don't play other servers, but I'm on at odd hours, and not as much as I used to be. Always down for a team if I have the time. 

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Powerleveled my Necro/Dark to level 40. Stopped at 33, io'd him, put the 4 pet uniques in soul extraction, ran a few missions - and immediately noticed how awesome Dark Servant aka Fluffy is. Missed his presence. The DS REALLY ties the set together. PL'd him to 40 and then put 4 Dark Watchers into DS. Immediately noticed a significant power increase. I only have the game on +1/3, but pulling multiple spawns at once is np. Occasionally one of the lil zombies will die, which just gives me another pet with Soul Extraction. I'll be bumping to +2/2 and will most likely max out on something like +4/4-6. I feel like Necro/Dark does best with small numbers of difficult targets rather than large spawns.

 

I pretty much play him how I did on live - fearsome stare the spawn, lay down tar patch, goto my pets to the most annoying mob and single target one mob after another while popping the heal everytime it's up and stepping out abit here and there to toss another fear out. I will put Darkest Night on a particularly annoying mob and ignore them until last, but only for certain spawns. Bosses get it applied at the start after the fear.

 

Feels very powerful at 40. I would argue the most powerful/safest of my half dozen pl'd toons including my kat/sr and em/inv scrappers, fire/em blaster, and ss/regen brute. Granted they all feel powerful, but the Necro/Dark is casually walking through groups of mobs with nary a scratch - even groups that would make my monsterous em/inv scrapper work for it.

 

My memories served me correctly. Necro/Dark is a very powerful combination and fun to play. Also, the heal is like asmr inducing sort of.

 

 

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On 7/24/2021 at 9:29 PM, 1seanv said:

Powerleveled my Necro/Dark to level 40. Stopped at 33, io'd him, put the 4 pet uniques in soul extraction, ran a few missions - and immediately noticed how awesome Dark Servant aka Fluffy is. Missed his presence. The DS REALLY ties the set together. PL'd him to 40 and then put 4 Dark Watchers into DS. Immediately noticed a significant power increase. I only have the game on +1/3, but pulling multiple spawns at once is np. Occasionally one of the lil zombies will die, which just gives me another pet with Soul Extraction. I'll be bumping to +2/2 and will most likely max out on something like +4/4-6. I feel like Necro/Dark does best with small numbers of difficult targets rather than large spawns.

 

I pretty much play him how I did on live - fearsome stare the spawn, lay down tar patch, goto my pets to the most annoying mob and single target one mob after another while popping the heal everytime it's up and stepping out abit here and there to toss another fear out. I will put Darkest Night on a particularly annoying mob and ignore them until last, but only for certain spawns. Bosses get it applied at the start after the fear.

 

Feels very powerful at 40. I would argue the most powerful/safest of my half dozen pl'd toons including my kat/sr and em/inv scrappers, fire/em blaster, and ss/regen brute. Granted they all feel powerful, but the Necro/Dark is casually walking through groups of mobs with nary a scratch - even groups that would make my monsterous em/inv scrapper work for it.

 

My memories served me correctly. Necro/Dark is a very powerful combination and fun to play. Also, the heal is like asmr inducing sort of.

 

 

Yes! Finally slotting dark and fluffy with -tohit. That's the stuff! After I started walking through +4x8 on my Necro/dark, I ended up going acc heal x2, -to hit x2, procs x2 in fluffy and ended up settling there. Also started removing the +def pet procs (not all) since I was capping the hit chance on mobs

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I have a force feedback and -res proc in grave knights, theft of essence in twilight grasp, and that's it. Once I hit 50 and run more challenging content I'll see about reducing the -tohit and adding other stuff in like you have.

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On 7/26/2021 at 6:26 PM, 1seanv said:

I have a force feedback and -res proc in grave knights, theft of essence in twilight grasp, and that's it. Once I hit 50 and run more challenging content I'll see about reducing the -tohit and adding other stuff in like you have.

I might be wrong, but I don't think the FF proc will help with pet's power recharge, or your own due to how pets work. Build Up proc would work nicely though in its place.

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On 9/23/2021 at 2:18 PM, mimakos1996 said:

Hey im new to mm and was thinking about making a demon/radiation but im seeing that dark might be a lot better can you tell me your current build?

Hi, my build is posted an earlier in the thread, here:

 

https://forums.homecomingservers.com/topic/22192-gather-the-shadows-a-dark-miasma-primer-for-masterminds/?do=findComment&comment=315448

 

I swapped Group Fly back into the build on favor of Oppressive Gloom.  Hope this helps. Let me know if questions!

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