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Themed ITF - All Trollers - Mass Chaos

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2 hours ago, krj12 said:

Just completed an all stormy ITF a few minutes ago.... mixed feelings about this run.   It was entertaining in terms of the chaos and whackiness, definitely an eyeball searer. 🙂

However, in terms of overall effectiveness, not so much.     The frequent usage of hurricane probably did not help with speed or with the Rom fight.   I've also noticed that in my defense

based builds, defense just doesn't seem to protect as much lately - has there been some kind of stealth nerf?  You would think with that many overlapping steamy mists, nothing could hit us.

 

Pretty slow run, especially because of the final fight against Rom.  After several tries and many deaths,  we finally had to settle on pulling him to the roof and

hover fighting him - everything else had him running around while the Nictus range nuked us.

 

Despite all that, we still had fun, and that's what is important after all.  Thanks to everyone who participated!  Group composition this time consisted of 5 trollers and 3 defenders:

 

Trollers ( */Storm ) :

Plant ( Me )

Illusion

Earth

Ice x 2

 

Defenders ( Storm/ *)

Psychic

Elect

Ice

 

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Sweet, glad it was fun (free) for all.  The ITF is not what I'd call Herdicane friendly.  Lots of relatively open maps or caves where you can push things into the geometry.  If you combine that with multiple folks running Hurricane but likely not coordinating very well you get lots of debuffed but probably scattered mobs.

 

Sounds like you had trouble immobilizing Rommy which is pretty much a necessity.  I know Tornado has a fear component.  Rommy's already prone to running all over Tornado probably just makes it worse.  And I can't recall for certain but LS description makes it sound like it causes fear as well.  I've seen Tornado make Lord Recluse in the then STF rabbit all over the place.

 

As for defense issues first they are Cimmies, they throw defense debuffs around like there's no tomorrow.  Second those large open outdoor maps I think folks naturally tend to spread out and before you know it you may not be stacking it as much as you'd like or think you are.  Other wise yes 3 defenders plus 5 controllers stacking Steamy Mist is +33.75% defense (all) before you even add in enhancements or the rest of the builds defenses.  Assuming a bunch of level 50+ I'd be real surprised to find defenses sub 45%.

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As for defense issues first they are Cimmies, they throw defense debuffs around like there's no tomorrow. 

 

Shrug,  I was two shot this morning by a regular Boss in ITF with my level 46 Fortunata.   Just two straight hits, like I had no defense.

This character already has insane amounts of defense across the board, well over 40% against melee and smashing/lethal.   Unless 1 hit is enough to strip all defense,  this was pure bull.

 

I've seen it in other areas of the game as well.

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12 hours ago, krj12 said:

we finally had to settle on pulling him to the roof and hover fighting him

This is the way. He gets nutty if the team doesn't have an anchor meleer. 

 

Regarding the slowness, it sounds like not enough people had all their Sudden Accelerations properly slotted.

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13 hours ago, krj12 said:

Pretty slow run, especially because of the final fight against Rom.  After several tries and many deaths,  we finally had to settle on pulling him to the roof and

hover fighting him - everything else had him running around while the Nictus range nuked us.

With Plant, Earth and Ice controllers, did nobody take the ST immobilize? Immobilizes are not affected by the purple triangles and will root an AV in a single application.


TORCHBEARER: Uun - Martial Arts/Invulnerability Scrapper | Uunderdog - Radiation/Radiation Scrapper | Uunison - Gravity/Storm Controller | Uuncola - Ice/Temporal Blaster
                          Uundergrowth - Plant/Martial Dominator | 
Uunreal - Fire/Time Corruptor | Uunknown - Mind/Psionic Dominator

EXCELSIOR:       Uundertaker - Radiation/Dark Corruptor | Uunstable - Super Reflexes/Staff Fighting Tanker | Uunseen - Illusion/Poison Controller | Uunrest - Dark/Tactical Arrow Blaster

                         Uuncool - Cold/Beam Rifle Defender | Uunderground - Earth/Earth Dominator | Uunplugged - Stone/Electric Brute | Uunfair - Archery/Trick Arrow Corruptor | Uunflammable - Fire/Nature Controller

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BTW, I ran an all-fire ITF over the weekend. Obviously a wider mix of ATs - I was on a Fire/Nature controller, but we had dominators, blasters, corruptors and a couple of brutes. I think we clocked in at 38 minutes for a defeat most (+3 for first two missions and +4 for last two).


TORCHBEARER: Uun - Martial Arts/Invulnerability Scrapper | Uunderdog - Radiation/Radiation Scrapper | Uunison - Gravity/Storm Controller | Uuncola - Ice/Temporal Blaster
                          Uundergrowth - Plant/Martial Dominator | 
Uunreal - Fire/Time Corruptor | Uunknown - Mind/Psionic Dominator

EXCELSIOR:       Uundertaker - Radiation/Dark Corruptor | Uunstable - Super Reflexes/Staff Fighting Tanker | Uunseen - Illusion/Poison Controller | Uunrest - Dark/Tactical Arrow Blaster

                         Uuncool - Cold/Beam Rifle Defender | Uunderground - Earth/Earth Dominator | Uunplugged - Stone/Electric Brute | Uunfair - Archery/Trick Arrow Corruptor | Uunflammable - Fire/Nature Controller

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11 hours ago, krj12 said:

 

 

 

Shrug,  I was two shot this morning by a regular Boss in ITF with my level 46 Fortunata.   Just two straight hits, like I had no defense.

This character already has insane amounts of defense across the board, well over 40% against melee and smashing/lethal.   Unless 1 hit is enough to strip all defense,  this was pure bull.

 

I've seen it in other areas of the game as well.

No but one hit could do a fairly significant debuff making it a lot easier for the second to land, like drop it 10% or more if you have no ddr.  

 

Edit: And a normal +4 boss will also have about an 18% chance (i.e.just under a 1 in 5 chance) to land that first hit vs +40% defense (1.3×1.4×10) which in turn puts the second hit just shy of 50/50 with a ~10% defdebuff from the first attack or overall slightly worse than 1 in 10 to get double tapped like that with a 40% defense.  Fighting through ×8 mobs that's going to happen and Cimerorans bosses are BS wielders (pun intended).

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I ran another this morning,  nothing specific like "All Stormy" this time. :)   Pretty good run, about 54 minutes - thx again to everyone who participated!

 

Group Composition:

Fire/Rad ( my character)

Ice/Cold

Earth/Storm

Illusion/Emp

Earth/Emp

Plant/Nature

Fire/Poison

Illusion/Cold

 

I think this is the first time I've had two Earth controllers on a team.   Earth tends to dominate visually over everything else, so you can imagine what it looked

like with two running. :)   

 

A few screenshots:

 

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Ran another one this evening - we definitely brought an army with us this time with all the Plant, Fire, and Illusion trollers in the group. :)  Pretty fun stuff, made even more fun by the /kin.

We pretty much steamrolled the TF, doing it in an excellent 39 minutes.  I think 35 mins is my record so far on a kill-most.   Good job guys!

 

Group composition:

Plant/Storm ( my character )

Ice/Dark

Plant/Nature

Mind/Empathy

Fire/Kin

Illusion/Rad

Illusion/Time

Fire/Poison

 

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Ran another this evening,  pretty good group with about 6 incarnates.  Lots of Illusion and Earth representation this time,  which made for some interesting chaos. :)

We ran it in about 50 minutes, which is pretty good - thanks to all who came! :)

 

Group composition:

Plant/Storm ( my character)

Illusion/Rad

Electric/Electric

Illusion/Traps

Fire/Earth ( Dominator ) - close enough :)  

Illusion/Time

Illusion/Rad

Earth/Storm

 

Some screenshots:

 

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On 10/13/2020 at 8:19 PM, krj12 said:
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I've always loved forming themed ITFs back on live and decided to do an all-troller team today.   Thanks to everyone who joined,  you guys rocked!

 

We ended up with the following powerset combinations:

Plant/Storms x2

Ice/Storm

Illusion/Rad

Illusion/Kin

Plant/Rad

Illusion/Dark

Illusion/Poison

 

A few screenshots attached showing the chaos....  pretty sure Rom was in there somewhere 🙂

 

Going to have to do an all defender one sometime,  not sure if I have the guts to do an all blaster though.

 

 

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Sort of unrelated, but how did you get these screenshots with no names and numbers?  I've been dying for a way to turn off damage and healing numbers and see what the hell is going on haha

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4 minutes ago, capricorpse said:

Sort of unrelated, but how did you get these screenshots with no names and numbers?  I've been dying for a way to turn off damage and healing numbers and see what the hell is going on haha

 

In the options tab go to the Keybinds tab and scroll to the botton.  There is a option for Toggle Screenshot UI.  You can set up a keybind (I use Ctrl-Z) to toggle it.

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3 minutes ago, Tacheyon said:

 

In the options tab go to the Keybinds tab and scroll to the botton.  There is a option for Toggle Screenshot UI.  You can set up a keybind (I use Ctrl-Z) to toggle it.

ah cool!  and this will enable/disable the UI in screenshots?  or in gameplay?  (i'm not in-game for another couple of days i think)

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4 minutes ago, capricorpse said:

ah cool!  and this will enable/disable the UI in screenshots?  or in gameplay?  (i'm not in-game for another couple of days i think)

 

There are two different options for that.  So read carefully!  Don't ask how I know this.  LOL 

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Ran another this evening,  pretty smooth run - don't think we had more than a couple deaths.   It took about 51sh minutes or so,  so great job guys!

 

Group composition:

Ice/Cold ( My Character)

Plant/Nature

Fire/Kin

Illusion/Rad

Fire/Nature

Illusion/Dark x 2

Plant/Trick Arrow

 

So, it was definitely dominated visually by the Plant and Illusion trollers.   Always love seeing those masses of swaying vines everywhere. :)

 

A few screenshots:

 

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