What do we think of Burn?

[Vanden]

I've made extensive use of Burn on my Fire/Fire Brute, but to me it feels like a power for the AT that likes to wade into melee and stay there. I don't really like to build my Blasters to live in melee, just for quick forays in when the opportunity presents itself, so it doesn't feel like Burn quite fits my playstyle. Do you guys think its so good it's worth adjusting my playstyle for?

[Nemu]

I'd love it if burn and ice patch drop where you click the power instead of where you land.

 

Imagine my chagrin when I jousted burn the first time only to find out the patch is created where I land, saaaaad panda.

 

If you are well versed in melee blasting and hopping in and out of combat take burn. But as you see in game and on the forums plenty of ranged only blasters make do without.

[Carnifax]

My Ice/Fire blapper drops it whenever it is up, but I'm built for up-close-and-personal anyway. I even treat Ice Storm and Blizzard  as PBAOEs using powexec_location self. 

 

I guess it depends on your primary really. I could see it being a bit awkward on a Beam/Fire or Dark/Fire. 

[Steam_InGen]

Find it hard to believe you've only got a few posts! To be honest, I almost exclusively play my water/fire blaster now. I'm talking any content, not only tfs, mishes, trials, or fire farms..(Yes fire farms.)

This setup has everything I need to an effective blaster. ranged for pickin off runaways, damage mitigation with knock down, slows, and Hot Feet's fear component. I even have bonfire for it's knockdown, well after I put sudden acceleration in. but I digress.

 

Now I know what your thinkin, what does all that have to do with burn...? I do a ton of solo'in and team play. Solo'in it's 100% worth it, it's damage is unmatched. Let's look at it with the latest mids build.  So let's look at a couple of powers actually. First Burn at damage cap, does 662 damage to 6 targets over 10 secs. The next power is Whirlpool with 715 dmage at DCap over 15 secs, and finally Bonfire does 642 over 45 to 16 targets I think. With all three of those powers that is a serious amount of damage. Right for soloing for sure.  Out of all of them, Burn is by far the best out of all of those powers. 

 

If you want to think about this in terms of team play next, this is about how it plays out for me most the time. Run with a full team, usually a tank or brute for taunting, so I let them do their thing, I run in either hit my Nuke or burn,(Most damaging attacks.  also depends on group make up. lots of things really.) rinse and repeat. When it comes to AVs it's actually one of the powers I use in my attack chain. Hit build up and tidal, burn, and blast! I realize it's a play style change to be sure, but things will go so much faster if you do, I would even say it's most likely like night and day. Up to you in the end, but I think it's worth a slot at least to try it out, worst comes to worst, respec back or maybe even use your second build to test it out. /e shrug

   

[Hew]

On 11/17/2020 at 7:18 AM, Carnifax said:

My Ice/Fire blapper drops it whenever it is up, but I'm built for up-close-and-personal anyway. I even treat Ice Storm and Blizzard  as PBAOEs using powexec_location self. 

 

I guess it depends on your primary really. I could see it being a bit awkward on a Beam/Fire or Dark/Fire. 

powexec_location self is somethign I didnt know, and you just made me super happy!

[Carnifax]

9 hours ago, Hew said:

powexec_location self is somethign I didnt know, and you just made me super happy!

The powexec_location target is amazing too. My Plant/Stormie would be a nightmare without it. 

[Hew]

3 hours ago, Carnifax said:

The powexec_location target is amazing too. My Plant/Stormie would be a nightmare without it. 

I use pelt all the time, for teleport anything; its great for shield charge, lightning rod, combat teleport, leap attack, almost every offensive toggle. I had no idea I could target myself as a location though, which is huge for things like:

 

TA emp arrow mez/res bubble, and any and all things defensive that can be tied to fold space.

 

Anything that makes it safer for me to run fold space makes me happy. 😄

[Epoch Paradox]

On 11/22/2020 at 12:56 AM, Steam_InGen said:

Find it hard to believe you've only got a few posts! To be honest, I almost exclusively play my water/fire blaster now. I'm talking any content, not only tfs, mishes, trials, or fire farms..(Yes fire farms.)

This setup has everything I need to an effective blaster. ranged for pickin off runaways, damage mitigation with knock down, slows, and Hot Feet's fear component. I even have bonfire for it's knockdown, well after I put sudden acceleration in. but I digress.

 

Now I know what your thinkin, what does all that have to do with burn...? I do a ton of solo'in and team play. Solo'in it's 100% worth it, it's damage is unmatched. Let's look at it with the latest mids build.  So let's look at a couple of powers actually. First Burn at damage cap, does 662 damage to 6 targets over 10 secs. The next power is Whirlpool with 715 dmage at DCap over 15 secs, and finally Bonfire does 642 over 45 to 16 targets I think. With all three of those powers that is a serious amount of damage. Right for soloing for sure.  Out of all of them, Burn is by far the best out of all of those powers. 

 

If you want to think about this in terms of team play next, this is about how it plays out for me most the time. Run with a full team, usually a tank or brute for taunting, so I let them do their thing, I run in either hit my Nuke or burn,(Most damaging attacks.  also depends on group make up. lots of things really.) rinse and repeat. When it comes to AVs it's actually one of the powers I use in my attack chain. Hit build up and tidal, burn, and blast! I realize it's a play style change to be sure, but things will go so much faster if you do, I would even say it's most likely like night and day. Up to you in the end, but I think it's worth a slot at least to try it out, worst comes to worst, respec back or maybe even use your second build to test it out. /e shrug

   

Share a mids build with the class? sounds like some of us could learn a thing or 12 from it...

[Steam_InGen]

On 11/30/2020 at 9:24 PM, Epoch Paradox said:

Share a mids build with the class? sounds like some of us could learn a thing or 12 from it...

Spoiler

http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/download.php?uc=1639&c=740&a=1480&f=HEX&dc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

 

This is the one, cheers mate. Any questions just message me.

Edited December 5, 2020 by Steam_InGen

[Doomguide2005]

Yeah couldn't imagine playing my Electric/Fire without Burn involved.  The secondary has exactly 1 power he can (not could) use at range, the tier 1 immobilize.