is it possible to have carrion creepers perma?

[mothermoy]

just got them on my plant/storm controller. if you don't have a plant/storm troller....seriously what have you been doing. GO ROLL ONE RIGHT NAO!!!!!

[Zumberge]

In order to do that you'd need 200% total recharge, which would be 3 50 recharge speed IOs in the power and another 100% on top of that, assuming you wanted to use the other three enhancement slots for making the thing actually hit.  The amount of sets that give recharge speed certainly add up to more than 100%, but you can't use them all at once.  Hasten is good for two minutes of +70% recharge but that's not consistent; there's going to be down times on it without an even higher amount of recharge to keep it perma.  I had a Plant/Kin with Hasten, IO sets out the wazoo, and spammed Siphon Speed and I'm not wholly sure I could manage it.

 

tl;dr: I'm leaning towards "no" with /Storm, but someone might be able to prove me wrong if they're willing to use

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[Jon]

In order to do that you'd need 200% total recharge, which would be 3 50 recharge speed IOs in the power and another 100% on top of that, assuming you wanted to use the other three enhancement slots for making the thing actually hit.  The amount of sets that give recharge speed certainly add up to more than 100%, but you can't use them all at once.  Hasten is good for two minutes of +70% recharge but that's not consistent; there's going to be down times on it without an even higher amount of recharge to keep it perma.  I had a Plant/Kin with Hasten, IO sets out the wazoo, and spammed Siphon Speed and I'm not wholly sure I could manage it.

 

tl;dr: I'm leaning towards "no" with /Storm, but someone might be able to prove me wrong if they're willing to use

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I wonder if you could do it on a Plant/Kin with Ageless Destiny and Spectral Alpha? I had a Plant/Kin pre-incarnates and I feel like it at least got relatively close with just pure-IO's, although I'm going off of nothing but my own faulty memory there.

[Ringo]

Yes, it is possible!  My two Plant/Storm builds are within 2 seconds and 4 seconds of Perma-Hasten, and that leaves Carrion Creepers on a recharge of about 105 seconds compared to 120 second duration.

 

Builds are in this thread:  https://forums.homecomingservers.com/index.php/topic,2812.0.html

 

I really should rewrite the OP to that..

 

 

[Zepp]

Through together a partial build, but the short answer is yes, and you don't need hasten to do it.

 

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Level 49 Magic Controller

Primary Power Set: Plant Control

Secondary Power Set: Storm Summoning

Power Pool: Speed

Power Pool: Leaping

Power Pool: Flight

Ancillary Pool: Psionic Mastery

 

Hero Profile:

Level 1: Strangler

• (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Chance for Recharge Slow
  
• (3) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold
  
• (3) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold
  
• (5) Basilisk's Gaze - Recharge/Hold
  
• (5) Superior Overpowering Presence - RechargeTime/Energy Font
  
• (7) Superior Overpowering Presence - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilized/Sleep/Stunned/Terrorized/Endurance/RechargeTime
  

Level 1: Gale

• (A) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge
  

Level 2: Entangle

• (A) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)
  
• (7) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance
  
• (9) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge
  
• (9) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  
• (11) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge
  

Level 4: Roots

• (A) Gravitational Anchor - Chance for Hold
  
• (11) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Endurance
  
• (13) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Recharge
  
• (13) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge
  
• (15) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Recharge
  

Level 6: Spore Burst

• (A) Fortunata Hypnosis - Chance for Placate
  
• (15) Fortunata Hypnosis - Sleep/Endurance
  
• (17) Fortunata Hypnosis - Accuracy/Recharge
  
• (17) Fortunata Hypnosis - Accuracy/Sleep/Recharge
  
• (19) Fortunata Hypnosis - Sleep/Recharge
  

Level 8: Seeds of Confusion

• (A) Coercive Persuasion  - Contagious Confusion
  
• (19) Coercive Persuasion  - Confused/Endurance
  
• (21) Coercive Persuasion  - Accuracy/Recharge
  
• (21) Coercive Persuasion  - Accuracy/Confused/Recharge
  
• (23) Coercive Persuasion  - Confused/Recharge
  
• (23) Coercive Persuasion  - Confused
  

Level 10: Steamy Mist

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  

Level 12: Spirit Tree

• (A) Empty
  

Level 14: Hasten

• (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  
• (40) Recharge Reduction IO
  

Level 16: Freezing Rain

• (A) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown
  
• (25) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance
  
• (25) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  
• (27) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge
  
• (27) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge
  

Level 18: Vines

• (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Chance for Recharge Slow
  
• (29) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold
  
• (29) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold
  
• (31) Basilisk's Gaze - Recharge/Hold
  
• (31) Superior Overpowering Presence - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilized/Sleep/Stunned/Terrorized
  
• (31) Superior Overpowering Presence - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilized/Sleep/Stunned/Terrorized/Endurance
  

Level 20: Hurricane

• (A) Dark Watcher's Despair - Chance for Recharge Slow
  
• (33) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Endurance
  
• (33) Dark Watcher's Despair - Recharge/Endurance
  
• (33) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Recharge/Endurance
  
• (34) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge
  

Level 22: Combat Jumping

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  

Level 24: Hover

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  

Level 26: Carrion Creepers

• (A) Superior Overpowering Presence - Confused/Hold/Immobilized/Sleep/Stunned/Terrorized/RechargeTime
  
• (34) Superior Overpowering Presence - Endurance/RechargeTime
  
• (34) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown
  
• (36) Overwhelming Force - Endurance/Recharge
  
• (36) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  
• (36) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge
  

Level 28: Fly

• (A) Empty
  

Level 30: Afterburner

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  

Level 32: Fly Trap

• (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets
  
• (37) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge
  
• (37) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  
• (37) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance
  

Level 35: Tornado

• (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge
  
• (39) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  
• (39) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance
  
• (39) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage
  

Level 38: Lightning Storm

• (A) Decimation - Chance of Build Up
  
• (40) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  
• (40) Decimation - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
  
• (42) Decimation - Damage/Recharge
  
• (42) Decimation - Damage/Endurance
  

Level 41: Indomitable Will

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  

Level 44: [Empty]

Level 47: [Empty]

Level 49: [Empty]

Level 1: Brawl

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Containment

Level 1: Prestige Power Dash

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Prestige Power Slide

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Prestige Power Quick

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Prestige Power Rush

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Prestige Power Surge

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Sprint

• (A) Empty
  

Level 2: Rest

• (A) Empty
  

Level 4: Ninja Run

Level 2: Swift

• (A) Empty
  

Level 2: Health

• (A) Empty
  

Level 2: Hurdle

• (A) Empty
  

Level 2: Stamina

• (A) Empty
  

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[subbacultchas]

Yes, and fairly easy to boot. My dominator built for permadom, and it's one of the powers that went perma rather early.  If you are building toward perma-hasten, you'll get it really soon.