Mythcreatio Posted November 27, 2020 Posted November 27, 2020 As title states! With the new changes to TA would you say they warrant going Defender over Corrupter? Also has anyone tried the combo out before (either combo)? Look forward to hearing back!
Force Redux Posted November 27, 2020 Posted November 27, 2020 (edited) Defender debuff numbers are going to be much stronger. Which means less slotting for things like defense bonuses. Defender forum has some discussion on the TA set and some folks there have positive comments on TA/Ice, too. Edited November 27, 2020 by Force Redux @Force Redux on Everlasting ----- (read my guide) ----- Gather the Shadows: A Dark Miasma Primer for Masterminds
Bopper Posted November 27, 2020 Posted November 27, 2020 I'm leaning towards defender for the debuffs, then proc out attacks for damage 1 PPM Information Guide Survivability Tool Interface DoT Procs Guide Time Manipulation Guide Bopper Builds +HP/+Regen Proc Cheat Sheet Super Pack Drop Percentages Recharge Guide Base Empowerment: Temp Powers Bopper's Tools & Formulas Mids' Reborn
Darkir Posted November 27, 2020 Posted November 27, 2020 (edited) It works out better on a defender due to the higher defense modifiers and higher debuff values. Unfortunately, scourge won't make up for it 😞 Edited November 27, 2020 by Darkir
Coyote Posted November 28, 2020 Posted November 28, 2020 In general, I'd go TA/x, but with Ice and especially Fire, it could be argued that Corruptor versions are very good also. Fire does more base damage so having a higher base multiplier and damage cap matters more, and it can't fit in as many procs. Ice isn't as high damage and can take more procs, but both also have Rain powers that, last I heard, were bugged to do more damage on Corruptors than they should. And they take advantage of Scourge better by doing damage incrementally rather just having the damage calculated at attack time, so they improve their own Scourge chances as health trickles down. Basically, I like Fire Blast a lot more on Corruptors than on Defenders, and Ice can go both ways but I think is generally better on Corruptors. Whether that's enough to make up for the TA being a secondary rather than a primary, I'm not sure. But I wouldn't automatically jump into Defender as the AT of choice for Ice or Fire Blast. Or Archery, probably, since it doesn't get too many procs and you want Hail or Arrows sooner. Dual Pistols or Dark Blast, unquestionably are better on Defenders.
roleki Posted November 28, 2020 Posted November 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Coyote said: In general, I'd go TA/x, but with Ice and especially Fire, it could be argued that Corruptor versions are very good also. Fire does more base damage so having a higher base multiplier and damage cap matters more, and it can't fit in as many procs. Ice isn't as high damage and can take more procs, but both also have Rain powers that, last I heard, were bugged to do more damage on Corruptors than they should. And they take advantage of Scourge better by doing damage incrementally rather just having the damage calculated at attack time, so they improve their own Scourge chances as health trickles down. Basically, I like Fire Blast a lot more on Corruptors than on Defenders, and Ice can go both ways but I think is generally better on Corruptors. Whether that's enough to make up for the TA being a secondary rather than a primary, I'm not sure. But I wouldn't automatically jump into Defender as the AT of choice for Ice or Fire Blast. Or Archery, probably, since it doesn't get too many procs and you want Hail or Arrows sooner. Dual Pistols or Dark Blast, unquestionably are better on Defenders. Fire/TA was sneaky-good before I27, now it's just ludicrous. There should definitely be more than 15 of us running around 🙂 CEOs come and go, and one just went/The ingredients you got bake the cake you get
Yomo Kimyata Posted November 29, 2020 Posted November 29, 2020 I made a similar choice recently. I play rather than rush, so I choose in part by how quickly I want to get certain powers. Who run Bartertown?
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