Replacement Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 (edited) ATs checked: Scrapper and Stalker. Both Phalanx Fighting and Grant Cover accept Defense enhancements but provide no benefit to doing so. I'm reasonably sure these worked pre-i27. Edited April 14, 2021 by Replacement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csr Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Replacement said: ATs checked: Scrapper and Stalker. Both Phalanx Fighting and Grant Cover accept Defense enhancements but provide no benefit to doing so. I'm reasonably sure these worked pre-i27. I don't think they've worked in PF for some time. PF on Brutes, Scrappers and Tanker all say "Ignores buffs and enhancements". For Grant Cover it can be misleading, as the component that helps you is Defense DeBuff Resistance and is unenhanceable (as is the Recharge Resistance). The Defense it provides to others should be enhanceable, and I believe that was working before I27. I haven't checked it since (though I do know it only affects teammates, not league-mates, so the 255 cap is pretty meaningless and a bit misleading as well.) Did you check the effects of GC on teammates? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Replacement Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted January 2, 2021 Yep. I have a static group that is 3x shield scrappers + 1x shield stalker. We are all in various states of enhancement, so we had a lot of sample configurations to try out. * Grant Cover is not granting allies any increased defense. A scrapper with no enhancements gives me the same amount of defense as I give him with my own having something like +34% enhanced. * Phalanx Fighting is definitely not working as intended because it takes defense enhancements. It providing no benefit doesn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Replacement Posted January 2, 2021 Author Share Posted January 2, 2021 Damnit. This is in the wrong bug forum.. Is there a GM on deck who can move this to Live bugs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csr Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, Replacement said: Yep. I have a static group that is 3x shield scrappers + 1x shield stalker. We are all in various states of enhancement, so we had a lot of sample configurations to try out. * Grant Cover is not granting allies any increased defense. A scrapper with no enhancements gives me the same amount of defense as I give him with my own having something like +34% enhanced. * Phalanx Fighting is definitely not working as intended because it takes defense enhancements. It providing no benefit doesn't make sense. I agree re PF, but I'm pretty sure it's been that way since I came back to HC (i24). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuro Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Phalanx Fighting has two components: * One defense buff that always affects you; this one is not enhanceable * One defense buff that scales based on number of allies nearby; this one is enhanceable (or should be) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csr Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Yuro said: Phalanx Fighting has two components: * One defense buff that always affects you; this one is not enhanceable * One defense buff that scales based on number of allies nearby; this one is enhanceable (or should be) OK, I tested the following on Live: Tanker Grant Cover Def to others is enhanceable. Tanker Phalanx Fighting secondary Def component is enhanceable. Stalker Grant Cover Def to others is enhanceable. Edited January 3, 2021 by csr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wavicle Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Noticed this yesterday. Definitely seems odd for them to take sets but not be enhanceable. Wavicle's Guide To What Really Matters: What Needs To Be Done On Every Toon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Replacement Posted January 5, 2021 Author Share Posted January 5, 2021 I'll try to get more specific numbers soon. Probably this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Replacement Posted March 20, 2021 Author Share Posted March 20, 2021 I can no longer reproduce the Grant Cover bug, at least on current beta build (and as Yuro points out, the Phalanx Fighting portion isn't bugged per se - though I still hate it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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