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MrWallace

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Hi all, 

 

My better half has recently got back into COH after a few months off and has decide she want to play and ICE Storm troller and has asked me to help with the build. As an almost pure tank player, I am not too proud to admit that I do not really have a clue! I have given it a go based on what I could find online. I have managed to softcap ranged, E and N def and capped S/L resistance. Recharge seems huge due to all the FF procs, while damage does seem a bit low, the ability to sow chaos and lockdown enemies seem very high. However I am really not sure if the build will work or even if it will be playable.

 

The Mrs goal is to be able to do as much content as possible while also being safe to badge hunt etc. She is not looking to run solo ITFs or hunt AVs. We have a huge number of merits and cash to drop into the build thanks to my lack of altis over the past 6 months, so cost is not an hinderance 🙂

 

So any how the build I have so far is below. Any tweaks, suggestions or out right telling me I have messed it up would be great. Cheers in Advance. Mr W.

 

Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.1.25
https://github.com/Crytilis/mids-reborn-hero-designer

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Snowflake: Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Ice Control
Secondary Power Set: Storm Summoning
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Block of Ice 
*  (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold: Level 30
*  (3) Basilisk's Gaze - Recharge/Hold: Level 30
*  (3) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
*  (5) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold: Level 30
*  (25) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic): Level 50
*  (25) Decimation - Chance of Build Up: Level 40


Level 1: Gale 
*  (A) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge: Level 50


Level 2: Frostbite 
*  (A) Superior Will of the Controller - Recharge/Chance for Psionic Damage: Level 50
*  (5) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
*  (7) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Control Duration: Level 50
*  (7) Superior Will of the Controller - Control Duration/Recharge: Level 50
*  (9) Superior Will of the Controller - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
*  (9) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance: Level 50


Level 4: Hasten 
*  (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
*  (11) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50


Level 6: Snow Storm 
*  (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 30


Level 8: Fly 
*  (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points): Level 50


Level 10: Steamy Mist 
*  (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed: Level 50
*  (13) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All): Level 50
*  (13) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage: Level 50
*  (15) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All): Level 50


Level 12: Arctic Air 
*  (A) Coercive Persuasion  - Contagious Confusion: Level 50
*  (15) Coercive Persuasion  - Confused/Endurance: Level 50
*  (17) Coercive Persuasion  - Confused: Level 50
*  (17) Coercive Persuasion  - Confused/Recharge: Level 50
*  (19) Coercive Persuasion  - Accuracy/Confused/Recharge: Level 50
*  (19) Coercive Persuasion  - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50


Level 14: Hover 
*  (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed: Level 50


Level 16: Freezing Rain 
*  (A) Superior Frozen Blast - Recharge/Chance for Immobilize: Level 50
*  (27) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff: Level 20
*  (34) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime: Level 50
*  (36) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
*  (36) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
*  (36) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50


Level 18: Flash Freeze 
*  (A) Superior Overpowering Presence - RechargeTime/Energy Font: Level 50
*  (21) Superior Overpowering Presence - Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance/RechargeTime: Level 50
*  (21) Superior Overpowering Presence - Accuracy/Control Duration: Level 50
*  (23) Superior Overpowering Presence - Control Duration/RechargeTime: Level 50
*  (23) Superior Overpowering Presence - Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance: Level 50
*  (43) Superior Overpowering Presence - Endurance/RechargeTime: Level 50


Level 20: Maneuvers 
*  (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed: Level 50
*  (27) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50


Level 22: Boxing 
*  (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50


Level 24: Tough 
*  (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance: Level 30
*  (29) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge: Level 40
*  (31) Reactive Armor - Resistance: Level 40
*  (31) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP: Level 50


Level 26: Glacier 
*  (A) Superior Entomb - Recharge/Chance for +Absorb: Level 50
*  (33) Superior Entomb - Accuracy/Hold/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
*  (33) Superior Entomb - Hold/Recharge: Level 50
*  (33) Superior Entomb - Accuracy/Hold/Endurance: Level 50
*  (34) Superior Entomb - Accuracy/Hold: Level 50
*  (34) Superior Entomb - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50


Level 28: Weave 
*  (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed: Level 50
*  (29) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
*  (31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50


Level 30: Assault 
*  (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 50


Level 32: Jack Frost 
*  (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
*  (37) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
*  (37) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
*  (37) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
*  (39) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
*  (39) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets: Level 50


Level 35: Tornado 
*  (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
*  (39) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
*  (40) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
*  (40) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
*  (40) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge: Level 50
*  (42) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown: Level 50


Level 38: Lightning Storm 
*  (A) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level 50
*  (42) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
*  (42) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
*  (43) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
*  (43) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge: Level 50


Level 41: Charged Armor 
*  (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance: Level 40
*  (46) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance: Level 40
*  (46) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge: Level 40
*  (50) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40


Level 44: Surge of Power 
*  (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance: Level 40
*  (45) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance: Level 40
*  (45) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge: Level 40
*  (45) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40


Level 47: Ball Lightning 
*  (A) Artillery - Accuracy/Recharge/Range: Level 50
*  (48) Artillery - Endurance/Recharge/Range: Level 50
*  (48) Artillery - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
*  (48) Artillery - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
*  (50) Artillery - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
*  (50) Artillery - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50


Level 49: Power Sink 
*  (A) Power Transfer - Damage/Accuracy/Recharge/Endurance: Level 50


Level 1: Brawl 
*  (A) Empty


Level 1: Containment 
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash 
*  (A) Empty


Level 1: Prestige Power Slide 
*  (A) Empty


Level 1: Prestige Power Quick 
*  (A) Empty


Level 1: Prestige Power Rush 
*  (A) Empty


Level 1: Prestige Power Surge 
*  (A) Empty


Level 1: Sprint 
*  (A) Empty


Level 2: Rest 
*  (A) Empty


Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 2: Swift 
*  (A) Empty


Level 2: Health 
*  (A) Miracle - +Recovery: Level 40
*  (46) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery: Level 50


Level 2: Hurdle 
*  (A) Empty


Level 2: Stamina 
*  (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 50
*  (11) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50


Level 50: Agility Core Paragon 
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Set Bonus Totals:
* 20% DamageBuff(Smashing)
* 20% DamageBuff(Lethal)
* 20% DamageBuff(Fire)
* 20% DamageBuff(Cold)
* 20% DamageBuff(Energy)
* 20% DamageBuff(Negative)
* 20% DamageBuff(Toxic)
* 20% DamageBuff(Psionic)
* 4.25% Defense(Melee)
* 5.5% Defense(Smashing)
* 5.5% Defense(Lethal)
* 10.5% Defense(Fire)
* 10.5% Defense(Cold)
* 29.25% Defense(Energy)
* 29.25% Defense(Negative)
* 3% Defense(Psionic)
* 28.31% Defense(Ranged)
* 10.5% Defense(AoE)
* 8% Enhancement(Stunned)
* 8% Enhancement(Held)
* 80% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
* 8.8% Enhancement(Terrorized)
* 12% Enhancement(Confused)
* 16% Enhancement(Immobilized)
* 24% Enhancement(Accuracy)
* 16% Enhancement(Sleep)
* 148.8 HP (14.63%) HitPoints
* Knockback (Mag -4)
* Knockup (Mag -4)
* MezResist(Confused) 42.5%
* MezResist(Held) 42.5%
* MezResist(Immobilized) 42.5%
* MezResist(Sleep) 42.5%
* MezResist(Stunned) 42.5%
* MezResist(Terrorized) 42.5%
* MezResist(Teleport) 100% (20% chance)
* 18% (0.3 End/sec) Recovery
* 54% (2.29 HP/sec) Regeneration
* 30% ResEffect(SpeedFlying)
* 30% ResEffect(RechargeTime)
* 30% ResEffect(SpeedRunning)
* 28.5% Resistance(Smashing)
* 30% Resistance(Fire)
* 30% Resistance(Cold)
* 21% Resistance(Energy)
* 21% Resistance(Negative)
* 18% Resistance(Toxic)
* 18% Resistance(Psionic)
* 28.5% Resistance(Lethal)

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Set Bonuses:
Basilisk's Gaze
(Block of Ice)
*   2.5% Defense(Energy,Negative), 1.25% Defense(Ranged)
*   2% (0.03 End/sec) Recovery
*   7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Superior Will of the Controller
(Frostbite)
*   4% DamageBuff(All)
*   8% Enhancement(Immobilized), 8% Enhancement(Sleep), 4.4% Enhancement(Terrorized), 4% Enhancement(Confused), 4% Enhancement(Held), 4% Enhancement(Stunned)
*   15% Enhancement(Accuracy)
*   10% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
*   5% Defense(Ranged), 2.5% Defense(Energy), 2.5% Defense(Negative)


Blessing of the Zephyr
(Fly)
*  Knockback (Mag -4), Knockup (Mag -4)


Luck of the Gambler
(Steamy Mist)
*  7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Shield Wall
(Steamy Mist)
*  5% Resistance(Lethal), 5% Resistance(Smashing), 5% Resistance(Fire), 5% Resistance(Cold), 5% Resistance(Energy), 5% Resistance(Negative), 5% Resistance(Psionic), 5% Resistance(Toxic)


Reactive Defenses
(Steamy Mist)
*  3% Resistance(All)


Gladiator's Armor
(Steamy Mist)
*  3% Defense(Melee), 3% Defense(AoE), 3% Defense(Ranged), 3% Defense(Smashing), 3% Defense(Lethal), 3% Defense(Fire), 3% Defense(Cold), 3% Defense(Energy), 3% Defense(Negative), 3% Defense(Psionic), MezResist(Teleport) 100% (20% chance)


Coercive Persuasion
(Arctic Air)
*   4% (0.07 End/sec) Recovery
*   4% Enhancement(Confused)
*   4% DamageBuff(All)
*   10% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
*   5% Defense(Ranged), 2.5% Defense(Energy), 2.5% Defense(Negative)


Luck of the Gambler
(Hover)
*  7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Superior Frozen Blast
(Freezing Rain)
*   15% ResEffect(SpeedRunning), 15% ResEffect(RechargeTime), 15% ResEffect(SpeedFlying)
*   6% Resistance(Fire,Cold), MezResist(Immobilized) 10%, MezResist(Held) 10%, MezResist(Stunned) 10%, MezResist(Sleep) 10%, MezResist(Terrorized) 10%, MezResist(Confused) 10%
*   4% (0.07 End/sec) Recovery
*   5% Defense(AoE), 2.5% Defense(Fire), 2.5% Defense(Cold)


Superior Overpowering Presence
(Flash Freeze)
*   8% Enhancement(Immobilized), 8% Enhancement(Sleep), 4.4% Enhancement(Terrorized), 4% Enhancement(Confused), 4% Enhancement(Held), 4% Enhancement(Stunned)
*   30.52 HP (3%) HitPoints
*   6% Resistance(Smashing,Lethal), MezResist(Immobilized) 10%, MezResist(Held) 10%, MezResist(Stunned) 10%, MezResist(Sleep) 10%, MezResist(Terrorized) 10%, MezResist(Confused) 10%
*   4% (0.07 End/sec) Recovery
*   5% Defense(Energy,Negative), 2.5% Defense(Ranged)


Luck of the Gambler
(Maneuvers)
*   10% (0.42 HP/sec) Regeneration
*  7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Reactive Armor
(Tough)
*   1.5% Resistance(Smashing,Lethal), MezResist(Immobilized) 2.5%, MezResist(Held) 2.5%, MezResist(Stunned) 2.5%, MezResist(Sleep) 2.5%, MezResist(Terrorized) 2.5%, MezResist(Confused) 2.5%
*   1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)


Unbreakable Guard
(Tough)
*  76.3 HP (7.5%) HitPoints


Superior Entomb
(Glacier)
*   6% Resistance(Fire,Cold), MezResist(Immobilized) 10%, MezResist(Held) 10%, MezResist(Stunned) 10%, MezResist(Sleep) 10%, MezResist(Terrorized) 10%, MezResist(Confused) 10%
*   15% ResEffect(SpeedRunning), 15% ResEffect(RechargeTime), 15% ResEffect(SpeedFlying)
*   4% (0.07 End/sec) Recovery
*   5% Defense(Energy,Negative), 2.5% Defense(Ranged)
*   5% Defense(Fire,Cold), 2.5% Defense(AoE)


Luck of the Gambler
(Weave)
*   10% (0.42 HP/sec) Regeneration
*   11.45 HP (1.13%) HitPoints
*  7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Expedient Reinforcement
(Jack Frost)
*   1.5% Resistance(Energy,Negative), MezResist(Immobilized) 2.5%, MezResist(Held) 2.5%, MezResist(Stunned) 2.5%, MezResist(Sleep) 2.5%, MezResist(Terrorized) 2.5%, MezResist(Confused) 2.5%
*   3% DamageBuff(All)
*   6.25% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
*   10% (0.42 HP/sec) Regeneration
*   3.13% Defense(Ranged), 1.56% Defense(Energy), 1.56% Defense(Negative)
*  10% Resistance(All)


Expedient Reinforcement
(Tornado)
*   1.5% Resistance(Energy,Negative), MezResist(Immobilized) 2.5%, MezResist(Held) 2.5%, MezResist(Stunned) 2.5%, MezResist(Sleep) 2.5%, MezResist(Terrorized) 2.5%, MezResist(Confused) 2.5%
*   3% DamageBuff(All)
*   6.25% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Apocalypse
(Lightning Storm)
*   16% (0.68 HP/sec) Regeneration
*   30.52 HP (3%) HitPoints
*   4% DamageBuff(All)
*   10% Enhancement(RechargeTime)


Reactive Armor
(Charged Armor)
*   1.5% Resistance(Smashing,Lethal), MezResist(Immobilized) 2.5%, MezResist(Held) 2.5%, MezResist(Stunned) 2.5%, MezResist(Sleep) 2.5%, MezResist(Terrorized) 2.5%, MezResist(Confused) 2.5%
*   1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
*   1.25% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Melee)


Reactive Armor
(Surge of Power)
*   1.5% Resistance(Smashing,Lethal), MezResist(Immobilized) 2.5%, MezResist(Held) 2.5%, MezResist(Stunned) 2.5%, MezResist(Sleep) 2.5%, MezResist(Terrorized) 2.5%, MezResist(Confused) 2.5%
*   1.25% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
*   1.25% Defense(Smashing,Lethal), 0.63% Defense(Melee)


Artillery
(Ball Lightning)
*   8% (0.34 HP/sec) Regeneration
*   1.88% Defense(Energy,Negative), 0.94% Defense(Ranged)
*   2% DamageBuff(All)
*   9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
*   3.13% Defense(Ranged), 1.56% Defense(Energy), 1.56% Defense(Negative) 


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Coyote

Coyote

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Alright, I've reworked the build to how I would run it. The main thing, is that Controller base damage is pretty low, it's always better to use damage procs to increase the damage, than to slot up the damage. Then, the next thing is that the Immobilizes have really long durations, so slotting up their duration isn't very important... same for Sleeps, because usually the effect will be broken by damage or by Ice Slick before the effect ends. Lastly, Surge of Power has a hard crash at the end, it's not very survivable for squishies, and ones that are resist-capped for S/L don't really need it except for mez protection. If mez protection is that important that she can't wait for Clarion, I'd rather get Indomitable Will or Rune of Protection instead.

 

The only option where I'm unsure is the slotting on Ball Lightning... this does way more damage, but Artillery would cap out the Ranged Defense. I'm not sure it's important enough... if it is, switch to Artillery for more defense.

 

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Snowflake: Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Ice Control
Secondary Power Set: Storm Summoning
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Block of Ice -- BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(3), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(3), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(5), GldJvl-Dam%(5), Dcm-Build%(7)
Level 1: Gale -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)
Level 2: Frostbite -- SprOvrPrs-Rchg/Energy Font(A), SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(7)
Level 4: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(11)
Level 6: Arctic Air -- CrcPrs-Conf%(A), CrcPrs-Conf/EndRdx(17), CrcPrs-Conf(19), CrcPrs-Conf/Rchg(19), CrcPrs-Acc/Conf/Rchg(21), CrcPrs-Acc/Rchg(21)
Level 8: Fly -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 10: Steamy Mist -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(13), Rct-ResDam%(13), GldArm-3defTpProc(15), LucoftheG-Def(15), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(17)
Level 12: Ice Slick -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 14: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(50)
Level 16: Freezing Rain -- SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(A), AchHee-ResDeb%(23), Ann-ResDeb%(23), UndDfn-Rchg/EndRdx(25)
Level 18: Flash Freeze -- PstBls-Dam%(A), JvlVll-Dam%(25), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(27), SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(27), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(29)
Level 20: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 22: Boxing -- Acc-I(A)
Level 24: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(31), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(31), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 26: Glacier -- Lck-%Hold(A), Lck-Acc/Hold(33), Lck-Acc/Rchg(33), Lck-Rchg/Hold(33), Lck-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(34), Lck-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(34)
Level 28: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(29), LucoftheG-Def(34), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(36)
Level 30: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 32: Jack Frost -- BldMnd-Dmg(A), BldMnd-Acc/Dmg(36), BldMnd-Dmg/EndRdx(36), BldMnd-Acc/EndRdx(37), BldMnd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), BldMnd-Acc(37)
Level 35: Tornado -- ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(39), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(39), FrcFdb-Rechg%(40), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(40)
Level 38: Lightning Storm -- Apc-Dam%(A), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Apc-Acc/Rchg(42), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(42), FrcFdb-Rechg%(43)
Level 41: Charged Armor -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(43), UnbGrd-ResDam(43), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(45)
Level 44: Ball Lightning -- Bmbdmt-Acc/Dam/Rech/End(A), Bmbdmt-Dam(45), Rgn-Knock%(45), JvlVll-Dam%(46), PstBls-Dam%(46), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(46)
Level 47: Summon Guardian -- ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(48), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(48), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(48), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(50)
Level 49: Power Sink -- PreOptmz-EndMod/End/Rech(A)
Level 1: Containment
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(9), Pnc-Heal/+End(9)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), EndMod-I(11)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon
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MrWallace

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Thank you @Coyote and @5099y_74c05 🙂

 

This is a huge help. The build is also great and Mrs W is now very excited that it includes an extra pet!  

 

The points on Mez protections are well taken and I think Clarion will be the way to go.

 

One last question, what are the other n incarnate sets most Controller go for? normally take? I am presuming it would be Assault for Hybrid the the damage boost but I also see that the Control set offers some nice perks. On interface my normal go to is reactive, but give all the -res in freezing rain is that the right way to go? Sorry for the extra question,  and any help is most welcome. We should have Snowflake up and running by the weekend at which point I will report back on how Mrs W has found her.

 

Cheers all MrW

Coyote

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1 hour ago, MrWallace said:

On interface my normal go to is reactive, but give all the -res in freezing rain is that the right way to go?

 

Stacking more -Res is not a bad thing, it will keep boosting damage.

-MaxHP is also useful against AVs. To be honest, if it's not an AV, the interface proc isn't that useful except for the chance-for-damage, as mobs usually die before you stack much -Res on them.

 

The Control set also helps a bit with damage, so it's not a bad thing. You might ask around specifically for the interaction of the +1 Mag and Arctic Air... if they work together well, then that's a no-brainer, because pushing AA up to Confuse Bosses is a Big Thing.

 

Lore is whatever you like, but I like the Storm Elementals for my Illusion/Storm. Judgment is also pretty balanced, though you go Pyrrhic if you want a fast animation, and the Electric if you don't want to bother aiming and just want to hit everything on the map. For my Ill/Storm I went with Ageless since I don't get attacked as much, but an Ice Controller really needs Arctic Air to keep running so they need mez protection.

MrWallace

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Cheers both, end does look like a challenge @5099y_74c05 . Ice and Storm are locked (at lv 44 at the mo) in but Mu is not. The Mrs only ask is that I don't and an epic that messes with her Ice Fairy look, so Stone and Ice are both out. I went for Mu as it seemed to fit the build best (look wise) and offer a bit of recovery, but it is definitely not fixed and any better solutions would be most welcome. Worse case I guess she can always buy the Survivability buff from the P2P vendor... I mean 8 hours is only what 60mil 😮 

MrWallace

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Made two quick change by swapping out  the Alpha to Cardiac and taking one of the FF procs out and adding an extra endurance slot. It drops the overall def, but as she will be teaming with my SD tank, my builds buffs should make up the difference.  As will getting the accolades. As she is a badge hunter I am sure that will be the fist thing she will be doing.

 

Stamina looks a bit more sustainable now.

 

http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/download.php?uc=1573&c=729&a=1458&f=HEX&dc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

Coyote

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3 hours ago, MrWallace said:

The Mrs only ask is that I don't and an epic that messes with her Ice Fairy look, so Stone and Ice are both out.

 

Ummm.... //Ice works nicely with an an ice-based look, and also does great AoE damage which is rare on a Controller.

It has a minimal graphics option, where the armor is a frosty ice crystals effect rather than the old "ice block all around you"

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MrWallace

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@Coyote Cheers that is really good to know. I did not realise that they had added a minimum FX to option to the epic sets. I just remember back in the day it turned you in a jack frost!

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The 1 slotting of Maneuvers kills me especially on /storm which is already an end hog. At the very least throw an end redux in it.

 

The most valuable leadership toggles are Maneuvers for the defense in today's meta, and tactics for the +perception, the +to hit is also useful for teams doing content over their heads like +4 talos radios when most of the team is sidekicked down so they are essentially fighting +5s... Assault is meh, the mez resistance it provides is super rare, you are not going to turn yourself into a damage god with it, and there are other debuffs that help the team kill faster without yet another end sucking toggle on a storm.

 

None of these builds have any slow resist. Storm's toolkit depends on recharge with most of its core powers on 30+ second timers, and if your recharge gets neutered how long will it take for those powers to come back up? Ice's toolkit is pretty similar with ice slick and glacier on long recharge timers. If money's no object and you are chasing that high end build my advice is don't skimp on slow resist.

 

Mu is pretty optimal for power sink as the build will need it, I'd also take a look at sorcery since it fits the theme and has RoP for mez protection. Going that route will relieve some of your toggle burden because you'll be forced to ditch a pool to fit in sorcery. With enough recharge you can get close to 1/2 uptime on RoP.

 

This is how I would build it:

 

This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7
https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn

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Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Ice Control
Secondary Power Set: Storm Summoning
Power Pool: Sorcery
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Block of Ice -- BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(3), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(3), BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(5)
Level 1: Gale -- SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(5)
Level 2: O2 Boost -- HO:Golgi(A)
Level 4: Mystic Flight -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A), WntGif-ResSlow(17)
Level 6: Arctic Air -- CrcPrs-Conf(A), CrcPrs-Conf/Rchg(7), CrcPrs-Acc/Conf/Rchg(7), CrcPrs-Acc/Rchg(9), CrcPrs-Conf/EndRdx(9), CrcPrs-Conf%(11)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Ksm-ToHit+(27)
Level 10: Steamy Mist -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-Def(11), Rct-Def/EndRdx(13), Rct-ResDam%(13), ResDam-I(15), HO:Ribo(17)
Level 12: Ice Slick -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 16: Freezing Rain -- SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(27), Ann-ResDeb%(29), AchHee-ResDeb%(29)
Level 18: Frostbite -- Artl-Acc/Dam(A), Artl-Dam/End(19), Artl-Dam/Rech(19), Artl-Acc/Dam/Rech(21), Artl-Acc/Rech/Rng(21), Artl-End/Rech/Rng(25)
Level 20: Hurricane -- HO:Enzym(A)
Level 22: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(23), ShlWal-Def(23), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(25)
Level 24: Tactics -- HO:Cyto(A)
Level 26: Glacier -- SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SprWiloft-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(31), SprWiloft-EndRdx/Rchg(31), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(31), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(37)
Level 28: Spirit Ward -- Prv-Absorb%(A)
Level 30: Rune of Protection -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(40), TtnCtn-ResDam/Rchg(43), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(46)
Level 32: Jack Frost -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(33), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(33), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(34), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(34)
Level 35: Tornado -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(36), ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(36), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(36), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(37)
Level 38: Lightning Storm -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(39), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(39), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(46)
Level 41: Power Sink -- PreOptmz-Acc/Rech(A), PreOptmz-EndMod/End(42), PreOptmz-EndMod/Rech(42), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/End(42), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/Rech(43), PreOptmz-EndMod/End/Rech(43)
Level 44: Charged Armor -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(45), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(45), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45), UnbGrd-Max HP%(46)
Level 47: Ball Lightning -- SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Artl-Acc/Dam(48), Artl-Dam/End(48), Artl-Acc/Dam/Rech(50)
Level 49: Vengeance -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment
Level 1: Sprint -- UnbLea-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(40), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(50)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(50)
Level 50: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 50: Portal Jockey
Level 50: Task Force Commander
Level 50: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon
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I chose Agility because the extra recharge and defense outweighs the benefits cardiac provides. With a fully slotted power sink on a 30ish second timer you will be alright in the endurance department.

 

Liberty, Torchbearer, Excelsior, Everlasting

Jezebel Delias

Level 50 Fire/Elec/Mace Blaster

 

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MrWallace

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Thanks @Nemu and @5099y_74c05. I now have three great looking builds to tempt her with -I think I might build all three on the test server and let her take them out for a test drive. End is defiantly going to play a factor in her decision. Back in the day she was all about WP and Regen toons just for the double stamina!  That was before she was seduced by the prettiness and insanity of Controllers!

 

Thanks again to all of you for the advice and support. The generosity of the COH community to help fellow heroes always amazes me.

 

Cheers 
Mr W

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I feel like you are going to be hurting for end.  /Storm is an end hog, and Arctic Air ( a great power, though it gets you a LOT of agro) is a massive end drain.  I franken slotted it with 4x end/confuse from various sets, and still have end trouble.  Trying to run all those other toggles (maneuvers, assault) - I don't see how you will manage to keep running.  I have Miracle and the end mod set proc slotted and still have to watch my end usage very carefully on Ice/Storm.

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Well she is all built and ready for the Mrs to take for a test drive.  We are trying out the less toggle intensive build to start with. I will feedback on Monday how the good or bad the blue bar issues are.

 

Cheers everyone 🙂

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The 1 slotting of Maneuvers kills me especially on /storm which is already an end hog. At the very least throw an end redux in it.

 

The most valuable leadership toggles are Maneuvers for the defense in today's meta, and tactics for the +perception, the +to hit is also useful for teams doing content over their heads like +4 talos radios when most of the team is sidekicked down so they are essentially fighting +5s... Assault is meh, the mez resistance it provides is super rare, you are not going to turn yourself into a damage god with it, and there are other debuffs that help the team kill faster without yet another end sucking toggle on a storm.

 

None of these builds have any slow resist. Storm's toolkit depends on recharge with most of its core powers on 30+ second timers, and if your recharge gets neutered how long will it take for those powers to come back up? Ice's toolkit is pretty similar with ice slick and glacier on long recharge timers. If money's no object and you are chasing that high end build my advice is don't skimp on slow resist.

 

Mu is pretty optimal for power sink as the build will need it, I'd also take a look at sorcery since it fits the theme and has RoP for mez protection. Going that route will relieve some of your toggle burden because you'll be forced to ditch a pool to fit in sorcery. With enough recharge you can get close to 1/2 uptime on RoP.

 

This is how I would build it:

 

This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7
https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Ice Control
Secondary Power Set: Storm Summoning
Power Pool: Sorcery
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Block of Ice -- BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(3), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(3), BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(5)
Level 1: Gale -- SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(5)
Level 2: O2 Boost -- HO:Golgi(A)
Level 4: Mystic Flight -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A), WntGif-ResSlow(17)
Level 6: Arctic Air -- CrcPrs-Conf(A), CrcPrs-Conf/Rchg(7), CrcPrs-Acc/Conf/Rchg(7), CrcPrs-Acc/Rchg(9), CrcPrs-Conf/EndRdx(9), CrcPrs-Conf%(11)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Ksm-ToHit+(27)
Level 10: Steamy Mist -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-Def(11), Rct-Def/EndRdx(13), Rct-ResDam%(13), ResDam-I(15), HO:Ribo(17)
Level 12: Ice Slick -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 16: Freezing Rain -- SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(27), Ann-ResDeb%(29), AchHee-ResDeb%(29)
Level 18: Frostbite -- Artl-Acc/Dam(A), Artl-Dam/End(19), Artl-Dam/Rech(19), Artl-Acc/Dam/Rech(21), Artl-Acc/Rech/Rng(21), Artl-End/Rech/Rng(25)
Level 20: Hurricane -- HO:Enzym(A)
Level 22: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(23), ShlWal-Def(23), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(25)
Level 24: Tactics -- HO:Cyto(A)
Level 26: Glacier -- SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SprWiloft-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(31), SprWiloft-EndRdx/Rchg(31), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(31), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(37)
Level 28: Spirit Ward -- Prv-Absorb%(A)
Level 30: Rune of Protection -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(40), TtnCtn-ResDam/Rchg(43), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(46)
Level 32: Jack Frost -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(33), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(33), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(34), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(34)
Level 35: Tornado -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(36), ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(36), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(36), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(37)
Level 38: Lightning Storm -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(39), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(39), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(46)
Level 41: Power Sink -- PreOptmz-Acc/Rech(A), PreOptmz-EndMod/End(42), PreOptmz-EndMod/Rech(42), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/End(42), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/Rech(43), PreOptmz-EndMod/End/Rech(43)
Level 44: Charged Armor -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(45), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(45), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45), UnbGrd-Max HP%(46)
Level 47: Ball Lightning -- SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Artl-Acc/Dam(48), Artl-Dam/End(48), Artl-Acc/Dam/Rech(50)
Level 49: Vengeance -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment
Level 1: Sprint -- UnbLea-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(40), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(50)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(50)
Level 50: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 50: Portal Jockey
Level 50: Task Force Commander
Level 50: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon
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I chose Agility because the extra recharge and defense outweighs the benefits cardiac provides. With a fully slotted power sink on a 30ish second timer you will be alright in the endurance department.

 

The link, for me, is bringing up a water Corr.

Nemu

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It's definitely an ice/storm. I noticed that sometimes mids will bring up the previous build you had in the app when you click on the links.

Liberty, Torchbearer, Excelsior, Everlasting

Jezebel Delias

Level 50 Fire/Elec/Mace Blaster

 

I am the Inner Circle!

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