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5 hours ago, Bill Z Bubba said:

if I remember right, (I did!) it was -renderthread 1 to enable the use of dual or hyperthreaded cores.

Ooh, that could be huge for me. Where do we punch that in?

 

Unless it's not a command, and I read that wrong.

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19 minutes ago, ScarySai said:

Ooh, that could be huge for me. Where do we punch that in?

 

Unless it's not a command, and I read that wrong.

It is but it's completely unnecessary now. The game uses what it can. If you want to try it anyway you just add it as a launch parameter HC Settings Homecoming in left nav, Extra Launch Parameters

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On 3/4/2021 at 4:17 PM, Chaos Ex Machina said:

 

Is CPU going to be important?

It often doesn't matter much, but with lots of characters and action on the screen, it can matter quite a bit.  One of the toughest graphics areas is ITF with all the roman soldiers and open space.  Then play on an 8-person team with 3+ masterminds, and there's a good chance you'll notice your CPU is important.

 

Standing on I think Shark Isle waiting for more mastermind team members:

Ryzen 3600 (or 5600x, I forget) + 1060 + 5 masterminds = around 180fps

Ryzen 3600 (or 5600x, I forget) + 1060 + 6 masterminds = around 90 fps.

One extra person joined the team and showed up with their pets out, and my fps just standing there dropped in half.

Running away and standing hundreds of feet away, fps jumped back up.

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Standing on the first tall mountaintop in Cimerora by myself as a mastermind with 5 pets standing next to me. 1080p, Graphics settings quite mild with only 2x AA, low quality/medium distance shaders, water low, Very High textures, etc.  Though I don't think this matters much when just standing there not doing anything.

 

Ryzen 3600 + 1070. 

facing city area: 125 fps. 

facing water: 260 fps

 

Ryzen 5600x + 1070.

facing city area: 170 fps

facing water:  350 fps

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During ITF, across the bridge, down the mountain steps, (entering last area of the map), start fighting at the bottom of the steps when the "the power of the gods" cut scene starts and the bad guy is kneeling.  Can often see my team and some AOE powers in the background of the cut scene. During start of cut scene:

 

Ryzen 3600 + 1070 = 60 fps

Ryzen 5600x + 1070 = 80 fps

 

Give or take 10 fps or so on all the above numbers.  The fps can vary at times, but these are consistent ballparks.  8-person teams with one mastermind.

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Founders Falls.  Over by the tall mountain/hilltop cliff area across the water:

Stand on cliff edge, face towards back wall area.

3600 = 280 fps  (260 to 300 fps at different times)  

5600x = 400 fps  (360 fps to 440 fps at different times)

 

Turn around on cliff, looking across water and see the bridge:

3600 = 205 fps

5600x = 290 fps

 

These numbers can vary a bit depending on various factors, but the 5600x obviously puts out higher fps than the 3600.  Does this matter most of the time?  For most of the game, I don't think so, fps will still usually be 60+.  For things such as the harder areas of ITF, or on a team of 8 masterminds, or both, it matters more, and it can be in the 40s a lot with even lower dips.   I do an 8-mastermind team mission every week, and that is the main reason I've taken so much interest in this. 

 

CPU usually matters much more in MMOs than in non-MMO modern games.  But gpu matters too.  I wish I had something better than a 1070 to test with.  Someone on my weekly 8-mastermind team has a 2600x + 6700xt and says he gets constant 60+ fps at 4k.  He said he was around 30 fps at 4k with same CPU and I forget what GPU he had, I think at least a 1070 but maybe not.  I can edit this later after asking him next time he's online.

 

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On 3/6/2021 at 2:36 PM, Chaos Ex Machina said:

I’m looking to get a feel of minimum specifications so from the sound of things...

 

Would 4th gen i5 3GHz 8GB and 1050 be right around the minimum?  Is that too little?

To correctly answer that we would need to know the resolution of you monitor.

 

720-1080p (1280*720|1920*1080) most anything can manage. 1440p or 2160p (varies*1440|3840*2160).

 

The more pixels the more work the gpu/cpu need to do.

 

I play at 4k and the game engine isnt really optimized for it. You wont need a top of the line system at 4k, you will need something decent. I used to use a 1080ti, it did ok but would lag a little here and there.

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As for the number of threads - this, er, thread covers it: 

 

TLDR: 3 main threads and some ancillary ones.

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The 5800x3d with its extra cache is generally great for MMOs.  Though I've never seen any mention on the internet of anyone using one in CoH.  So may as well ask here....

 

Anyone using a 5800x3d (or 5600x3d) in CoH?  It should be faster than a 5600x in CoH, but it's hard to pay the extra for one without seeing some fps numbers.  

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Up to 1k just about any semi-modern computer with a 1/2 good gpu can run the game.

 

4k my 1080ti would bog at times in graphically more intense situations, my rx6900xt did much better, and my current card, 7900xtx has yes to go below the refresh rate (60hz) of my main monitor.

 

So all depends on the resolution and settings.

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   Me, I'm running something slightly better than what @Snarky is showing lol (Great pic btw)...

 

    Alienware PC
Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz   3.19 GHz
Installed RAM    16.0 GB (15.8 GB usable)
System type    64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

 

  And with a Terabyte solid state hard drive to boot, I am all set. 🙂 I am currently running with my in game graphics set to ultra max, and even during a hami run or a MSR, the game is running with no lag to speak of, or if I get any, its very, very little. Oh, I am also using a slightly older 31" Panasonic TV for my monitor as well, everything is generally clear as a bell for me, and clear sailing. In fact, yesterday I think I even saw @Snarky sitting on the edge of the Rikti Mothership cheering on the Rikti as we battled them. Pesky Villain Vampires, thinking that they are all that, and a bag of blood chips... 😋

 

(Jk Snark Man... Please don't bite me lol... 😁)

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