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On 3/14/2021 at 10:17 AM, dnomad333 said:

IIRC, the Warriors were based on the 1979 film of the same name. For the most part I would rather not deviate too far from that idea, so staying somewhat true that theme appeals to me.

That being said, updating weapons, giving the members access to newer 'natural' power sets, seems like a good idea. The only thing I'm concerned about is a radical change.

Give em pistols, I say 

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On 10/6/2021 at 4:20 PM, drdread said:

One thing I would like to see is for the Warriors to own their space.  Much like the Tsoo, Carnival of Shadows, Frakshow, or the Skulls; give the Warrior's hideouts some flair and personality. Graffiti on the walls, racks of weapons, a bar area. You don't need to make new assets, just add some assets to the existing maps.

 

They deserve better than generic, nondescript warehouses.

 

I agree with this completely!  A 'Warrior Base' could, like the Tsoo, have a shrine/dojo feel to it, but the statues would be Greco-Roman themed and the training weapons would be 'Western' instead of 'Eastern.'

 

I would also prefer that Warriors get a chance to 'own their space' in public zones.  The Warriors really only have a presence in-game in Talos and in Striga, and in both of those zones they spend most of their time getting bullied (by the Freakshow in Talos and the Council in Striga).  The Warriors getting a revamp would be a good time to re-tool their public presence to show that they can protect their blocks from their rivals.

 

If you are choosing to make the Warriors less villainous, it could also be a place to showcase this - have the Warriors standing between the overtly evil Freaks/Council and some cowering civilians.

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13 hours ago, TalynDerre said:

 

I agree with this completely!  A 'Warrior Base' could, like the Tsoo, have a shrine/dojo feel to it, but the statues would be Greco-Roman themed and the training weapons would be 'Western' instead of 'Eastern.'

 

I would also prefer that Warriors get a chance to 'own their space' in public zones.  The Warriors really only have a presence in-game in Talos and in Striga, and in both of those zones they spend most of their time getting bullied (by the Freakshow in Talos and the Council in Striga).  The Warriors getting a revamp would be a good time to re-tool their public presence to show that they can protect their blocks from their rivals.

 

If you are choosing to make the Warriors less villainous, it could also be a place to showcase this - have the Warriors standing between the overtly evil Freaks/Council and some cowering civilians.

 

While I won't say no, that might heavily depend on the 3D folks, which is outside my purview. I do have a plan to continue a natural progression of the Warriors under Odysseus with a bit of a reckoning for his hubris, and one or two new groups forming as a result. No promises!

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On 3/16/2021 at 8:34 AM, KC4800 said:

Much like you did with the Vahzilok, make a new mission arc with a badge that tells the story of the newly revamped  "Ultra Warriors".

Then we can say "you warriors are good, real good" to them.

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On 3/15/2021 at 4:10 PM, Galaxy Brain said:

I really dig the idea that they would be a Vigilante group moreso than an "Enemy" group, almost like a pseudo Primal version of the Resistance, natural people "fighting back" against the super-natural. 

 

Yeah, they give a bit of a Tank Top Army from One Punch Man vibe.

 

https://onepunchman.fandom.com/wiki/Tank_Topper_Army

 

Intended to be heroes, but a bit rude and inconsiderate to anyone not buff and in a tank top.

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With the 'yellow' targetting that we have in Praetoria, and some other areas, it might be cool to have Warriors spawn as `yellow` mobs, instead of ones that directly attack you every time you see them. Could give more to the 'not quite an enemy, but not really an ally' vibe if you want to go in that direction.

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4 minutes ago, GraspingVileTerror said:

Good idea, @Arbegla.

I'd like to see that Yellow-target tech proliferated all over the place.

Yeah that is a nice touch, agreed! As a caveat, I'm curious if the tech allows for implementation of a setting that lets the user specify the color as well?

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The Warriors MUST closely resemble those from the film, its far too important (to me)

 

But...

 

I would add some of the other gangs (from the film) to quest lines such as The Baldies and The Oldies to make the quests a bit more resonant (The Warriors are as much a tribute as they are a living breathing part of the City of Heroes)

 

I love the idea of some ambiguity around whether they are good or evil

 

You could add some great AV's and bosses to their quests, perhaps some mysterious shadowy controlling criminal masterminds manipulating the streets! (New high level units)

 

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On 11/3/2021 at 10:48 AM, Arbegla said:

With the 'yellow' targetting that we have in Praetoria, and some other areas, it might be cool to have Warriors spawn as `yellow` mobs, instead of ones that directly attack you every time you see them. Could give more to the 'not quite an enemy, but not really an ally' vibe if you want to go in that direction.

 

 

Yes! And if that could be added to the Warriors being attacked by Freakshow in Talos. I'd love to actually rescue them

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On 11/10/2021 at 12:54 PM, Rosencrantz said:

 

 

Yes! And if that could be added to the Warriors being attacked by Freakshow in Talos. I'd love to actually rescue them

I think those with water powers should be able to short circuit those Freaks

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I just did the Scroll of Tielekku arc again, and it reminded me of the Blade King Caesar and that's a rank that never show up before or after.

 

Also, it made me wonder what the Warriors would have done if they had been able to trap a god.

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