Dark/Dark...Defender, Corruptor, Controller, or Dominator

[Snarky]

I have really been enjoying Dark 3 Defender.  I am missing the damage.  (I ran a fire blaster last week lol).  
 

But I learned something!   What I was missing in Dark Dark Blast I think.  How to land Soul Drain and the Blackstar

 

Throw Dark Pit (power I Avoided) mag 2 disorient.  Blah

 Run Oppressive Gloom from Soul Mastery mag 2 disorient Blah.   Wait 2+2 = gold.  
I always avoided these two useless powers.  
 

Now I am off to test the strategy at high level play.  Throw Dark Pit, wander in with Gloom on, Soul Drain, Blackstar.  

 

[Ukase]

I usually remind folks they have 1000 slots. Why does it have to be either/or? Make each one. 

If you're choosing between corruptor and defender, unless you're going to solo most of it, I'd go corruptor. Or, make the defender and use a key bind that shouts out "scourge!" when your damage takes the npcs' hit points below 50%. 

If you're choosing between Dominator and Controller...if soloing, go controller. Dominators have an easier time acquiring domination while teamed. And, the controller will have a secondary that can help you keep you alive. But - the damage is pretty sucky until you get your pets, and even then, they go where they want, so it can get a bit messy if you're not paying attention. Both ATs have low hit points, and of the two, the dom seems to do better dps - but a lot of that is how you slot and play. The status protection and free endurance from domination gives the nod to the dominator for me, if I were forced to choose. (Have I mentioned I once vowed to never play a dominator again, because my experience with a mind/psi dom was so unsavory? I was talked into an earth dom and the AT redeemed itself. ) 

Of the four you wish to choose from, I'm probably going to go Defender for a challenge effort, because that's solo play. For team play, the corruptor. For both...I go corruptor. The defender gets a nice damage buff for solo play, but I honestly can't tell much of a difference between the two. And using a keybind to say "scourge" can be annoying, so go with the corruptor. 

[DougGraves]

I don't play dark/dark control much anymore.  The dark defender gets a cone fear available basically every fight.  That is enough control soloing that playing with the control set feels like wasted control.

 

The dark/ control on a dominator is interesting solo because you have two single target controls - hold and confuse.  Having both with domination lets you control bosses well.

 

The defender lets you use fear to lock down and then pick off foes one at a time.  And heal yourself when you need to.  It is very effective, I just find it boring.

[Snarky]

Now I am looking at getting a mezzy Corruptor stood up.  The build goal is to be able to land Dark Pit and Oppressive gloom on a large spawn then Soul Drain and Blackstar.  Dark Pit and Soul Drain are a bit off Perma.  Nothing on this build is 'perfect'  Everything is sort of "make the goal and depend on to hit debuffs and AT strength"  Mostly a team build.  Has good AoE, Good ST, Good Mez, and played smart should o alright.  Notable throwaway was ST hold.  only a mag 2 with no way to stack.  I focused on a build that would just wailing on large spawns (mez/AoE) until the team hit an EB/AV, then settle into debuffs and ST.

 

For whatever reason anytime I export a build with Snipe Mids drops the 5 slotted Experienced Marksman" (no fast snipe) and just leaves the 6th slot Hami.  The new Mids kinda sucks.  In many many ways

 

 

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Level 50 Magic Corruptor
Primary Power Set: Dark Blast
Secondary Power Set: Dark Miasma
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Dark Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Gloom

• (A) Superior Scourging Blast - Accuracy/Damage
• (3) Superior Scourging Blast - Damage/RechargeTime
• (3) Superior Scourging Blast - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
• (5) Superior Scourging Blast - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
• (5) Superior Scourging Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
• (7) Superior Scourging Blast - RechargeTime/PBAoE +End

Level 1: Twilight Grasp

• (A) Theft of Essence - Accuracy/Healing
• (7) Theft of Essence - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
• (9) Theft of Essence - Chance for +Endurance

Level 2: Moonbeam

Plus 5 slotted Experienced Marksman

• Hamidon Origin:Centriole Exposure

Level 4: Tar Patch

• (A) Recharge Reduction IO
• (17) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 6: Darkest Night

• (A) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff
• (19) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Recharge/Endurance
• (19) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Endurance

Level 8: Tenebrous Tentacles

• (A) Bombardment - Damage
• (21) Bombardment - Accuracy/Recharge/Endurance
• (23) Bombardment - Damage/Recharge
• (23) Bombardment - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• (25) Bombardment - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge/Endurance

Level 10: Howling Twilight

• (A) Recharge Reduction IO
• (25) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 12: Night Fall

• (A) Bombardment - Damage
• (27) Bombardment - Accuracy/Recharge/Endurance
• (27) Bombardment - Damage/Recharge
• (29) Bombardment - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• (29) Bombardment - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge/Endurance

Level 14: Dark Pit

• (A) Absolute Amazement - Stun
• (21) Absolute Amazement - Stun/Recharge
• (31) Absolute Amazement - Stun/Recharge/Accuracy
• (31) Absolute Amazement - Recharge/Accuracy
• (31) Absolute Amazement - Chance for ToHit Debuff
• (33) Accuracy IO

Level 16: Shadow Fall

• (A) Kismet - Accuracy +6%

Level 18: Torrent

• (A) Bombardment - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• (33) Bombardment - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge/Endurance
• (33) Sudden Acceleration - Knockback to Knockdown

Level 20: Fearsome Stare

• (A) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff
• (34) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/ToHitDebuff
• (34) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Recharge
• (34) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff/Endurance/Recharge
• (36) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
• (36) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage

Level 22: Fly

• (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)

Level 24: Hasten

• (A) Recharge Reduction IO
• (36) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 26: Life Drain

• (A) Apocalypse - Damage
• (37) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge
• (37) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
• (37) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance
• (39) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)
• (39) Touch of the Nictus - Chance for Negative Energy Damage

Level 28: Maneuvers

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 30: Tactics

• (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up

Level 32: Blackstar

• (A) Superior Malice of the Corruptor - Accuracy/Damage
• (39) Superior Malice of the Corruptor - Damage/Recharge
• (40) Superior Malice of the Corruptor - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• (40) Superior Malice of the Corruptor - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
• (40) Superior Malice of the Corruptor - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
• (42) Superior Malice of the Corruptor - Recharge/Chance for Negative Energy Damage

Level 35: Dark Consumption

• (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge
• (42) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• (42) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
• (43) Cleaving Blow - Accuracy/Damage
• (43) Cleaving Blow - Damage/Recharge
• (43) Cleaving Blow - Accuracy/Recharge

Level 38: Dark Servant

• (A) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff
• (45) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/ToHitDebuff
• (45) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Recharge
• (45) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff/Endurance/Recharge
• (46) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
• (46) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage

Level 41: Oppressive Gloom

• Hamidon Origin:Endoplasm Exposure

Level 44: Soul Drain

• (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge
• (48) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• (48) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
• (48) Cleaving Blow - Accuracy/Damage
• (50) Cleaving Blow - Damage/Recharge
• (50) Cleaving Blow - Accuracy/Recharge

Level 47: Dark Embrace

• (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
• (50) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%

Level 49: Soul Transfer

• (A) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 1: Brawl

• (A) Empty

Level 1: Scourge 

Level 1: Sprint

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Edited November 18, 2022 by Snarky

[arcane]

I vote for the Dom. 

[Jimpy2]

I have a dark/dark dominator who I turned into a to hit debuff machine. Not much for big damage, but can also do a decent hold and immobilize and instill some fear. 

[Snarky]

7 hours ago, Jimpy2 said:

I have a dark/dark dominator who I turned into a to hit debuff machine. Not much for big damage, but can also do a decent hold and immobilize and instill some fear. 

I am on a Dark Dark Corr now.  The trick with creating a Mag 4 stun to begin the point blank attack chain is indeed gold.  Once you have run in with a Mag 2 stun toggle, drop an AoE mag 2 stun, Soul Drain, Tar Patch, Blackstar, then joust out to Fearsome Stare…. Anything standing cannot hit the side of a barn with a machine gun. If there is an EB or AV standing drop the debuff toggle on them.   It is a lot of damage and a lot of debuff

Edited March 1, 2023 by Snarky

[Captain Fabulous]

3 hours ago, Snarky said:

I am on a Dark Dark Corr now.  The trick with creating a Mag 4 stun to begin the point blank attack chain is indeed gold.  Once you have run in with a Mag 2 stun toggle, drop an AoE mag 2 stun, Soul Drain, Tar Patch, Blackstar, then joust out to Fearsome Stare…. Anything standing cannot hit the side of a barn with a machine gun. If there is an EB or AV standing drop the debuff toggle on them.   It is a lot of damage and a lot of debuff

:Stares at you in Dark/Dark Blaster:

[SeraphimKensai]

A Darkness Control/Darkness Affinity Controller with a bit of Leviathan for waterspout is pretty epic.

 

That could be one to experiment with as well.