Heraclea Posted May 13, 2021 Posted May 13, 2021 I just finished levelling a staff/ninjitsu scrapper. Question: Do you ever, evern use anything other than Form of the Soul? Body might be beneficial to people with resistance armor sets, but I am not that. QVÆ TAM FERA IMMANISQVE NATVRA TB ~ Amazon Army: AMAZON-963 | TB ~ Crowned Heads: CH-10012 | EX ~ The Holy Office: HOLY-1610 | EV ~ Firemullet Groupies: FM-5401 | IN ~ Sparta: SPARTA-3759 | RE ~ S.P.Q.R. - SPQR-5010 Spread My Legions - #207 | Lawyers of Ghastly Horror - #581 | Jerk Hackers! - #16299 | Ecloga Prima - #25362 | Deth Kick Champions! - #25818 | Heaven and Hell - #26231 | The Legion of Super Skulls - #27660 | Cathedral of Mild Discomfort - #38872 | The Birch Conspiracy! - #39291
Apparition Posted May 13, 2021 Posted May 13, 2021 I have never, ever used Form of the Soul. I have other things that handle endurance issues. I use either Form of the Body for the extra damage and -res on mobs, or Form of the Mind for the +recharge. In fact, I don't even have Form of the Soul on any of my power trays, but I do Form of the Body and Form of the Mind. 1
Luminara Posted May 13, 2021 Posted May 13, 2021 Legionette only uses Body. She has enough endurance (120%) and +Recovery (261%), she has enough global recharge to make complete AoE and single-target attack chains, she's slotted well enough to hit +3 critters with everything, so the -Res is the only useful effect for her build. 1 Get busy living... or get busy dying. That's goddamn right.
Heraclea Posted May 13, 2021 Author Posted May 13, 2021 I have two staff cbaracters now - a staff/regen brute who was basically a science experiment, seeing if a /regen brute could make an adequate tank. The other is a staff/ninjitsu scrapper, another concept character, this one trying to build a retiarius gladiator. Neither has terrible endurance issues but I just like to see the blue bar hardly moving, so I have always played both in Soul. Will give Body a go. QVÆ TAM FERA IMMANISQVE NATVRA TB ~ Amazon Army: AMAZON-963 | TB ~ Crowned Heads: CH-10012 | EX ~ The Holy Office: HOLY-1610 | EV ~ Firemullet Groupies: FM-5401 | IN ~ Sparta: SPARTA-3759 | RE ~ S.P.Q.R. - SPQR-5010 Spread My Legions - #207 | Lawyers of Ghastly Horror - #581 | Jerk Hackers! - #16299 | Ecloga Prima - #25362 | Deth Kick Champions! - #25818 | Heaven and Hell - #26231 | The Legion of Super Skulls - #27660 | Cathedral of Mild Discomfort - #38872 | The Birch Conspiracy! - #39291
ZemX Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 So I've just started a Scrapper version of my Staff/Nin Stalker and this was one of my worries going in. Having only Form of Body on the Stalker there wasn't a choice, but... while I was certain I would use the different stances leveling up the Scrapper, I figured it was likely I'd settle back into Form of Body anyway permanently. Well, not so much a worry then, but a slight disappointment at having a choice I'll end up not making much use of. So it's good to see people are finding use for the stances later on. It's eventually a zero sum game anyway, isn't it? If I need more blue, I need it. Getting it some other way means giving up potentially recharge or damage maybe in other ways (like choice of Alpha slot) or extra slots given over to +end procs. That sort of thing.
ZorkNemesis Posted May 18, 2021 Posted May 18, 2021 On my Staff/Elec Scrapper i'll go between Body and Soul depending on my End needs. That's really it. If I can keep my end up without Soul's end discount, I don't need it and will instead just go for more damage from Body. Thankfully with /Elec's Power Sink and Energize it's not hard to keep the blue bar up, and throwing in Cardiac Alpha is overkill. Currently playing on Indomitable as @Zork Nemesis; was a Protector native on live.
ZemX Posted May 19, 2021 Posted May 19, 2021 17 hours ago, ZorkNemesis said: On my Staff/Elec Scrapper i'll go between Body and Soul depending on my End needs. Just passed 20 and this is how it's been going so far, but already I'm using Soul less and less. Slotted Panacea and Perf Shifter. Picked up Ninjitsu's +end clicky. And I don't even have any endrdx slotted in attacks yet.
merrypessimist Posted May 22, 2021 Posted May 22, 2021 I play staff on several ATs and on all of them I use Body exclusively. +dam and -res are more useful than end redux or recharge, both of which are more than covered by my protective set and/or set bonuses.
Nemu Posted May 22, 2021 Posted May 22, 2021 I use soul on my staff/regen brute with whirlwind. Without soul she won't be able keep spinning, and spinning is winning. soooo... 1 1 Liberty, Torchbearer, Excelsior, Everlasting Jezebel Delias Level 50 Fire/Elec/Mace Blaster I am the Inner Circle!
JStacy337 Posted May 22, 2021 Posted May 22, 2021 My Invuln/Staff Tanker has been using Form of the Mind almost exclusively once she was able to slot Miracle and Numina (really need to swap out that Regenerative Tissue for Panacea). Could probably swap to Body since I put the FF procs in Eye of the Storm and Sky Splitter Formerly Infinity, Currently Everlasting 50s: Necro/Kin MM, Ill/Storm 'Troller, Kin/EnA Stalker, NRG/EnA Sentinel, Grav/Elec Dom, Invuln/Staff Tanker, Mind/Dark 'Troller, Earth/Nature 'Troller, Merc/FF MM
kelika2 Posted May 22, 2021 Posted May 22, 2021 Exemplaring: blue stance anything 40+: red stance, unless I get sapped or something then start stance dancing the +dmg is hardly noticeable on brutes. the -res hardly has a chance to do anything with how fast this game moves and bouncing group to group there is a chance for stacks to flat out drop
Yomo Kimyata Posted June 1, 2021 Posted June 1, 2021 Form of the Mind -- I never use it, ever. You have three attacks that can slot FF +recharge so recharge is rarely an issue. If you really need the to hit buff from the Sky Splitter finisher, you are probably better off finding it from other sources. Form of the Soul -- I only use this at low levels or with a particularly troublesome secondary (like Dark Armor). Fair finisher with Sky Splitter for +recovery and +regeneration, but again I generally address this elsewhere in my build. Note: build up three levels and don't use a finisher to keep your endurance costs at a minimum. Form of the Body -- All around winner in my eyes. more damage is great. -res finisher from Eye is great. +resistance buff finisher from sky splitter is great. 1 Who run Bartertown?
MTeague Posted June 1, 2021 Posted June 1, 2021 Levelling in early to mid 20's I used Form of the Soul almost exclusively to handle Endurance issues. In Form of the Soul, I could do an attack chain FOR DAYYYYYSS. Never ever stop, just Naginata-Storm-Of-Doom. Any other form, I'd find I'd need to pause and kneel after every fight. Even WITH Quick Recovery (though QR was default slot only and had Power Transfer proc) Once I hit the early 30's and got enough slots to start getting decent Endurance Reduction / More Recovery, then I started foolish around with Mind and Body. Haveven't been super impressed with Mind. +Recharge never SUCKS of course, but I almost never need to pause in my attacks at all anyway. Form of the Body can be nice for some +Resist (since I'm Staff / WP, any +Resist is more layered types of sustain for me). The -Res in Eye of the Storm, doesn't suck? But I didn't really feel that I lacked for kill speed to begin with. Roster: MTeague's characters: The Good, The Bad, and The Gold
Zepp Posted June 7, 2021 Posted June 7, 2021 I use body, and I don't use Sky Splitter or Eye of the Storm... Having the constant damage buff is kinda nice... Archetype Concept Compilation -- Powerset Concept Compilations: Assault Melee -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Great Archetype Concept Battle: Final Round -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Archetype Proposal Amalgamation
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