Invul or Dark armor?

[Snarky]

I am looking to try a Dark Melee Stalker.  Would Dark armor or Invulnerability be stronger?

[1seanv23]

Fully io'd I would guess the /Inv would be stronger due to the defense and +hp. I've had a fully io'd /Inv brute, stalker, and scrapper. My brute was about as tough as anything I've ever seen in game except a fully io'd tanker version (obviously not counting granite armor).

 

That said, on beta I made a psi/dark stalker and maxed him out on io's and he was very strong. The cornerstone of the set appeared to be the big heal, so I slotted it with the chance for endurance and had the build focus on getting something like 25% melee or s/l defense. Can't remember at this point. I don't know how hard it is offhand to get defense to s/l/e or m/r/aoe on /dark up to at least 30%. My best guess would be to focus on maximizing +hp and recharge to fire off the heal as much as possible.

 

Dark melee is a very strong pairing with /Inv and arguably offers it more because of the heal attack and -tohit and fear to add to the layered mitigation of /Inv. But dark/dark will be very thematic and strong as well.

 

I'd say go with whatever suits your goals best.

[Omega-202]

Invuln is probably the bulkiest Stalker secondary.  You can hit 50% resists to F/C/E/N, capped S/L resists and soft capped typed defense to all but Psi, plus Dull Pain for + HP and healing.  Easily enough to handle +3/4 8 at endgame, solo.    

[Snarky]

8 hours ago, Omega-202 said:

Invuln is probably the bulkiest Stalker secondary.  You can hit 50% resists to F/C/E/N, capped S/L resists and soft capped typed defense to all but Psi, plus Dull Pain for + HP and healing.  Easily enough to handle +3/4 8 at endgame, solo.    

Yeah, I went Dark/Invul.  One of my first Brute beast builds on live.  Very good times.  This will be a very slow crawl Redside, doing every contact/arc/side mission.  So...the build is not going to be primary importance for a while.  Pre 20 everyone is lucky to cram a couple slots on things lol.  

 

I will be using Hyperstrike's template and the ideas from the pinned Stalker guide to throw together something Tanky yet Stalkery.  I will post it after I make a first pass and see what can be tuned.

[Groovy_Ghoul]

On 7/11/2021 at 7:15 AM, Snarky said:

Yeah, I went Dark/Invul.  One of my first Brute beast builds on live.  Very good times.  This will be a very slow crawl Redside, doing every contact/arc/side mission.  So...the build is not going to be primary importance for a while.  Pre 20 everyone is lucky to cram a couple slots on things lol.  

 

I will be using Hyperstrike's template and the ideas from the pinned Stalker guide to throw together something Tanky yet Stalkery.  I will post it after I make a first pass and see what can be tuned.

Edited October 1, 2022 by Groovy_Ghoul
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[Groovy_Ghoul]

Hit the send button too quickly. Did you have this build?

[Snarky]

14 minutes ago, Groovy_Ghoul said:

Hit the send button too quickly. Did you have this build?

just downloaded the new mids  it is....well, either i am getting much worse or it is a piece of shit.  here is the file  hope it opens.  its a beast

DM Invul Team v3.0.mxd

[Snarky]

erm, you wanted a stalker.  sorry.  i never completed that build.  this is the brute.  damned i am fighting mids.  or i would slap something together for you.  basically take the Hyperstrike invul template and then feather in some winters, purps, etc

 

https://www.midsreborn.com/builds/download.php?uc=1389&c=579&a=1158&f=HEX&dc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

[Groovy_Ghoul]

Thanks. I've been leveling a DM/Inv Brute, based on your build. Good so far!

 

Also fighting with a Mids Update and it's not letting me read your last link but I have the previous Brute build and Hyperstrike's Stalker INV framework.

 

Since no Dark Consumption on Stalkers, would you use a Theft of Essence proc in Siphon Life or grab a Epic Pool with Physical Perfection. Kind of looking at Weapon Mastery for PP and Exploding Shuriken, for another AOE attack. ES just lacks the Darkness theme. Your thoughts?