Without_Pause Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 On 1/15/2022 at 8:37 AM, Erratic1 said: Did you mean an Ice/Rad Tank? If so the Tanker has both DoTs at level 28 as opposed to the Brute having to wait until level 35. How major the wait is as a factor is in the eye of the beholder. Nope. Top 10 Most Fun 50s. 1. Without Mercy: Claws/ea Scrapper. 2. Outsmart: Fort 3. Sneakers: Stj/ea Stalker. 4. Waterpark: Water/temp Blaster. 5. Project Next: Ice/stone Brute. 6. Mighty Matt: Rad/bio Brute. 7. Without Pause: Claws/wp Brute. 8. Emma Strange: Ill/dark. 9. Nothing But Flowers: Plant/storm Controller. 10. Obsidian Smoke: Fire/dark Corr. "Downtime is for mortals." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarySai Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Something that isn't really talked about, but scrappers are currently only king of the mountain if they can game the ato proc, so if anything changes with that proc, that could pose a significant problem for their status. Without it, brutes would pretty easily still be the kings of swing for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovera Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 On the Pylon thread I had a few tests done using Energy Aura. All of the tests ended with times running into the 3 minutes despite being on a Scrapper (even when using Energy Melee it was only as low as 2:40). This ends disappointing me as the 'good damage' builds end up hinging on Scrapper/Stalker IOs, Bio, -res sources, and a snipe. Any building not involving these goes to the three minute mark. - Simple guide for newcomers. - Money making included among other things. - Tanker Fire Armor: the Turtle, the Allrounder, the Dragon, and compilation of Fire Armor builds. - Tanker Stone Armor: beginner friendly (near) immortal Tanker for leveling/end-game and Stone Armor framework. - Brute Rad/Stone and compilation of Brute Stone Armor builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erratic1 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 16 minutes ago, Sovera said: On the Pylon thread I had a few tests done using Energy Aura. All of the tests ended with times running into the 3 minutes despite being on a Scrapper (even when using Energy Melee it was only as low as 2:40). This ends disappointing me as the 'good damage' builds end up hinging on Scrapper/Stalker IOs, Bio, -res sources, and a snipe. Any building not involving these goes to the three minute mark. Does a pylon do anything to bring Entropic Aura's +Recharge effect into play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovera Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Erratic1 said: Does a pylon do anything to bring Entropic Aura's +Recharge effect into play? The standard 8.5% recharge? - Simple guide for newcomers. - Money making included among other things. - Tanker Fire Armor: the Turtle, the Allrounder, the Dragon, and compilation of Fire Armor builds. - Tanker Stone Armor: beginner friendly (near) immortal Tanker for leveling/end-game and Stone Armor framework. - Brute Rad/Stone and compilation of Brute Stone Armor builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erratic1 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, Sovera said: The standard 8.5% recharge? Variable, though with one target nearby 8.5%. Still...I guess that is now wholly out of line with Against All Odds granting Shield only +13% damage bonus in the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovera Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Erratic1 said: Variable, though with one target nearby 8.5%. Still...I guess that is now wholly out of line with Against All Odds granting Shield only +13% damage bonus in the situation. It gives 5% base with one enemy in range, then 3.5% per enemy. Those are different variables but in game with one enemy in range both appear and it ends being 8.5%. Big spawns are where it shines but big spawns don't tend to stay big for long once AoEs start flying, even when solo. 1 - Simple guide for newcomers. - Money making included among other things. - Tanker Fire Armor: the Turtle, the Allrounder, the Dragon, and compilation of Fire Armor builds. - Tanker Stone Armor: beginner friendly (near) immortal Tanker for leveling/end-game and Stone Armor framework. - Brute Rad/Stone and compilation of Brute Stone Armor builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal_General Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 For me it depends on which sets produce and benefit the most from fury. I am sure they all do, but some may get more out of fury than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Without_Pause Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 I gave some Tank builds a run at soloing. Their simply too slow. I admit having a Rad/fire and Rad/bio isn't helping Tanks in the comparison, but I definitely feel the lower damage even when looking at my Claws/wp. Armors benefit greatly from IOs and Incarnates so until then, the lower damage is even more noticeable. I'll keep some Tank builds around for team play but that's about it. Top 10 Most Fun 50s. 1. Without Mercy: Claws/ea Scrapper. 2. Outsmart: Fort 3. Sneakers: Stj/ea Stalker. 4. Waterpark: Water/temp Blaster. 5. Project Next: Ice/stone Brute. 6. Mighty Matt: Rad/bio Brute. 7. Without Pause: Claws/wp Brute. 8. Emma Strange: Ill/dark. 9. Nothing But Flowers: Plant/storm Controller. 10. Obsidian Smoke: Fire/dark Corr. "Downtime is for mortals." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal_General Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 I am curious. I have a level 10 Rad/SS tanker that might be better as a brute since rad doesn't care too much about the -def from rage crash and fury doesn't care too much about the -dam. At least not as much as other ATs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Z Bubba Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 53 minutes ago, Marshal_General said: I am curious. I have a level 10 Rad/SS tanker that might be better as a brute since rad doesn't care too much about the -def from rage crash and fury doesn't care too much about the -dam. At least not as much as other ATs. -9990% Damage (All) Strength (self only) for 10s after 120s Fury ain't helpin that. But if you're running a procmonster build, procs don't care about the crash and do damage anyway. (Another problem with procs to add to the list.) And procs don't care what AT you are either. Haven't used rad armor enough to talk on that front. Dunno how close a brute can push rad armor to the resistance caps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal_General Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bill Z Bubba said: -9990% Damage (All) Strength (self only) for 10s after 120s Fury ain't helpin that. But if you're running a procmonster build, procs don't care about the crash and do damage anyway. (Another problem with procs to add to the list.) And procs don't care what AT you are either. Haven't used rad armor enough to talk on that front. Dunno how close a brute can push rad armor to the resistance caps. For some reason my coffee deprived brain thought it was the same penalty as the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Z Bubba Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Marshal_General said: For some reason my coffee deprived brain thought it was the same penalty as the defense. Understood. Just poured cup one for the day. I'll probably be asking for build help soon for my SS/WP brute, Bunny Fufu. I hate procmonster builds but it seems like a no-brainer to go that route on SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal_General Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, Bill Z Bubba said: Understood. Just poured cup one for the day. I'll probably be asking for build help soon for my SS/WP brute, Bunny Fufu. I hate procmonster builds but it seems like a no-brainer to go that route on SS. Yeah, I kind if went proc monster with my ma/sr brute, Foe Paw, since it is easy to do with SR if you are not chasing the incarnate cap. It also seems a bit cheaper getting procs than full sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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