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Seriously, doing a zombie raid with a ToT league today, I was getting 1 XP from some of them.  Here I am at 26th level, this is just insulting, give me a rock at least!  Literally they're only "worth it" for the badges, which is silly.  MSRs give out decent XP, zombies should too.

 

Or was I "doing it wrong" somehow that I am unaware of?

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Could be the way the league was set up. I believe that on a league, XP is allocated between teams based on percent of damage done, then shared across your team. If another team in the league did the majority of the damage, they would get most of the XP. It gets worse if league leader doesn't consolidate players into teams of 8. If you were on a team of 1 or 2, you would get very little XP. (You still get credit for the defeat for badges.)

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8 hours ago, Clave Dark 5 said:

... from the grave!

 

Seriously, doing a zombie raid with a ToT league today, I was getting 1 XP from some of them.  Here I am at 26th level, this is just insulting, give me a rock at least!  Literally they're only "worth it" for the badges, which is silly.  MSRs give out decent XP, zombies should too.

 

Or was I "doing it wrong" somehow that I am unaware of?

If you got the double xp booster it would be 2 xp.....just saying. 

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14 hours ago, Uun said:

Could be the way the league was set up. I believe that on a league, XP is allocated between teams based on percent of damage done, then shared across your team. If another team in the league did the majority of the damage, they would get most of the XP. It gets worse if league leader doesn't consolidate players into teams of 8. If you were on a team of 1 or 2, you would get very little XP. (You still get credit for the defeat for badges.)

If so, it's strange that I've never seen that with MSRs.  I'm pretty sure we were the only league fighting the zombies, and it was full, all teams of 8.  But I'm not 100% sure, so...

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Our league leader says if you are getting little or no xp to drop group and be reinvited because its a bug.  Later it was said to be a bug with incandesence teleport.  Its never happened to me so i cant say for sure.

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47 minutes ago, TheZag said:

Our league leader says if you are getting little or no xp to drop group and be reinvited because its a bug.  Later it was said to be a bug with incandesence teleport.  Its never happened to me so i cant say for sure.

Thanks Zag, I'll keep that in mind for next time.

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The threat here isn’t remotely comparable to MSR. More comparable to Rikti zone invasions. Well no not even that dangerous.. Except you can get an absolute buttload of merits.

 

So yeah. I was on one of these last night. Rewards seem about right for the risk (aka basically zero).

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3 hours ago, arcane said:

The threat here isn’t remotely comparable to MSR. More comparable to Rikti zone invasions. Well no not even that dangerous.. Except you can get an absolute buttload of merits.

 

So yeah. I was on one of these last night. Rewards seem about right for the risk (aka basically zero).

Eh, sure, there's little risk with the zombie raid, but I think you're overstating risk in a MSR.   And as you say, you also get Vanguard Merits.  I think it's more appropriate to compare xp vs. time spent rather than risk in this case.  

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13 minutes ago, Ignatz the Insane said:

Eh, sure, there's little risk with the zombie raid, but I think you're overstating risk in a MSR.   And as you say, you also get Vanguard Merits.  I think it's more appropriate to compare xp vs. time spent rather than risk in this case.  

Yes, I probably am. It’s more about the fact that MSR is a ton of +4 Elite Bosses whereas this Halloween stuff is half minion pumpkin heads.

 

And when I said a buttload of merits, I was talking about my ToT league last night, which yielded far more reward merits than I get from a typical league running 2 back to back MSR’s.

 

Also, the ToT league couldn’t have cared less if I was afk eating dinner, whereas MSR leaders usually kick you for running to the bathroom. 🙂

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Based on my "feels", which I hate to resort to as a data driven guy, Zombie invasion XP seems to be miniscule, certainly compared to any other type of invasion.  I try to get my badges and move on.

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Happen to be in th emiddle of an invasion right now. Level 28, minions are giving 55 xp, lts 183. (No idea about bosses, I'm just hovering on my MM.)

 

By comparison, an even con Tuatha warrior gives 219.

 

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15 hours ago, arcane said:

The threat here isn’t remotely comparable to MSR. More comparable to Rikti zone invasions. Well no not even that dangerous.. Except you can get an absolute buttload of merits.

 

So yeah. I was on one of these last night. Rewards seem about right for the risk (aka basically zero).

If that's "right" then it's a pointless event to have - even running around a zone to collect all the exploration badges gets you more XP and actual merits for the time.  This is would be a waste of time.

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8 hours ago, Clave Dark 5 said:

If that's "right" then it's a pointless event to have - even running around a zone to collect all the exploration badges gets you more XP and actual merits for the time.  This is would be a waste of time.

I made about 500 merits and millions of xp last night in PI sooo lol no that’s not true.

 

Not to mention it’s a dinky little holiday event and there’s zero reason it has to have the rewards of serious endgame content, but I digress.

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2 hours ago, arcane said:

I made about 500 merits and millions of xp last night in PI sooo lol no that’s not true.

 

Not to mention it’s a dinky little holiday event and there’s zero reason it has to have the rewards of serious endgame content, but I digress.

The zombies are what we're talking about here.  Low XP makes them pointless.

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4 minutes ago, Clave Dark 5 said:

The zombies are what we're talking about here.  Low XP makes them pointless.

Ok, gotcha. Have not observed zombie xp outside of the context of everything else going on in PI Halloween-wise.

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