Water/Dark advice

[graeberguinn]

Can anyone elaborate on the number difference between defenders and corruptors for Dark. Seems Dark might get better debuff numbers for Def but Water would benefit from scourge. 

Any thoughts on what AT you'd run this combo on and why? I know they both could perform well and be fun. 

[Without_Pause]

Here's a good way to look up numbers.

https://cod.uberguy.net/html/archetype.html?at=defender

https://cod.uberguy.net/html/archetype.html?at=corruptor

 

I know at one point if something debuffed res on a defender at 30%, then it as a secondary would be at 22.5%. Rain/DoT powers do better on a Corr due to scourge. Which way to go when each set seems better on different ATs is up to you. My lean would be Corr for faster end game teams, but then I would be a hypocrite based on what I rerolled from a Corr to a Def this past weekend.

[Uun]

Also depends if you plan to team or solo. Defenders get a 30% damage buff when solo, which eliminates the corruptor damage advantage.

[Erratic1]

4 minutes ago, Uun said:

Also depends if you plan to team or solo. Defenders get a 30% damage buff when solo, which eliminates the corruptor damage advantage.

 

A Defender (damage scale 65%) with a 30% damage buff is effectively at 1.3*0.65=84.5% damage scale

A Corruptor (damage scale 75%) effectively gets 30% more damage from Scourge, putting them at 1.3*75%=97.5%

 

The solo Corruptor will still deal more damage (ignoring buffs/debuff) just not as much more as when looking at group play.

 

To the OP, Water Blast is a very fun set to use. I'd lean Corruptor (I have a Water/Kinetics corruptor). The fun of it will make you want to blast things, especially once you get Geyser. 

[Elia87]

18 hours ago, Erratic1 said:

 

A Defender (damage scale 65%) with a 30% damage buff is effectively at 1.3*0.65=84.5% damage scale

A Corruptor (damage scale 75%) effectively gets 30% more damage from Scourge, putting them at 1.3*75%=97.5%

 

The solo Corruptor will still deal more damage (ignoring buffs/debuff) just not as much more as when looking at group play.

 

To the OP, Water Blast is a very fun set to use. I'd lean Corruptor (I have a Water/Kinetics corruptor). The fun of it will make you want to blast things, especially once you get Geyser. 

Which would deal more dmg, water corr or water blaster?

[Erratic1]

2 hours ago, Elia87 said:

Which would deal more dmg, water corr or water blaster?

 

In practical terms, the Blaster. In more abstract, theoretical terms....

 

A Blaster is ranged damage scale 112.5%, so right there out ahead of either the Corruptor or Defender when simply  looking at raw blasting. But both the Defender and Corruptor can debuff target's damage resistance via Tar Patch--the Corruptor by 22.5% (Mid's incorrectly says 30%) and the Defender by 30%. So in theory, with Scourge, the Corruptor is looking at 97.5*1.225=119.44%. However dropping Tar Patch takes time, foes do not have to stay in it, and it has a 90s base recharge. Moreover a Corruptor also tends to find other things to occupy their time in group play than strictly blasting. 

 

And its not like Blasters do not have secondary sets, some of which would up their damage too. I have a Water/Darkness Blaster and Soul Drain gives you a nice 30s damage boost, even though getting it is generally more risky than using Tar Patch.