Fire/Kin - Taking advantage of Knockdown

[Dahle]

I recently posted my all to long guide to Fire/Storm with a extreme tilt on causing the enemies to be under the effect of Knockdown.This is a play on that without the obvious /Storm compliment that comes with trying too hard to Knock everything down. 

 

So this new Fire/Kin is utilizing a Power Pool ability that is not, in my experience past or present, used very much. We are slotting in Whirlwind, with the wonderful Force Feedback Proc and Sudden Acceleration KB to KD.  This will cause us to have a Hurricane like Aura, without the repel effect and when we stand in our own Bonfire we will only add to the effects already happening there. 

 

Our normal engage will be a Fire Cages, Bonfire, jump in and let Hot Feet do it's thing.  We will Transference and Fulcrum Shift on cooldown and keep applying Fire Cages and Bonfire.

 

Again, we are heavy on toggles, Hot Feet, Super Speed, Whirlwind, Tactics, Combat Jumping, Tough, Temp Invulnerability and Weave.  And we are going to mitigate the End cost with Conserve Power.  With good Siphon Speed and Perma Haste, Conserve Power is up 90 of every 150 seconds (Better if you take into the spotty FF Proc).

 

So here is my rough draft of the build with Sets:

 

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Level 50 Magic Controller

Primary Power Set: Fire Control

Secondary Power Set: Kinetics

Power Pool: Speed

Power Pool: Leadership

Power Pool: Fighting

Power Pool: Leaping

Ancillary Pool: Primal Forces Mastery

 

Hero Profile:

Level 1: Char -- UnbCns-Dam%(A), UnbCns-Acc/Rchg(21), UnbCns-Acc/Hold/Rchg(34), UnbCns-Hold/Rchg(34), UnbCns-Hold(34)

Level 1: Transfusion -- TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(A), TchoftheN-Acc/Heal(7), TchoftheN-Heal/HP/Regen/Rchg(19), Pnc-Heal(19), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(21)

Level 2: Fire Cages -- GrvAnc-Hold%(A), GrvAnc-Immob(3), GrvAnc-Immob/Rchg(3), GrvAnc-Acc/Immob/Rchg(5), GrvAnc-Acc/Rchg(7)

Level 4: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(5)

Level 6: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(46), LucoftheG-Def(46), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(46)

Level 8: Hot Feet -- Arm-Dam%(A), Arm-Dmg(9), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(9), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(13), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), EndRdx-I(48)

Level 10: Siphon Speed -- Acc-I(A), RechRdx-I(11), RechRdx-I(11)

Level 12: Super Speed -- Clr-Stlth(A)

Level 14: Whirlwind -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), Empty(15), EndRdx-I(15), EndRdx-I(17)

Level 16: Increase Density -- GldArm-RechRes(A), GldArm-ResDam(17)

Level 18: Kick -- Empty(A)

Level 20: Speed Boost -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)

Level 22: Tactics -- AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx(A), AdjTrg-EndRdx/Rchg(23), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(23), AdjTrg-ToHit/Rchg(25), AdjTrg-ToHit(25)

Level 24: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(31), Ksm-ToHit+(31)

Level 26: Bonfire -- OvrFrc-Dam/KB(A), Rgn-Dmg(27), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(27), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(29), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(31)

Level 28: Inertial Reduction -- Jump-I(A)

Level 30: Tough -- StdPrt-ResKB(A), RctArm-EndRdx(33), RctArm-ResDam(33), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(33)

Level 32: Fire Imps -- SlbAll-Build%(A), SlbAll-Dmg(42), SvrRgh-PetResDam(42), SvrRgh-Acc/Dmg(43), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(43), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(43)

Level 35: Transference -- EffAdp-EndMod/Acc(A), EffAdp-EndMod/EndRdx(36), EffAdp-Acc/Rchg(36), EffAdp-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(36), EffAdp-EndMod/Rchg(37), EffAdp-EndMod(37)

Level 38: Fulcrum Shift -- Acc-I(A), RechRdx-I(39), RechRdx-I(39)

Level 41: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(42), RechRdx-I(48)

Level 44: Temp Invulnerability -- GldArm-RechRes(A), UnbGrd-Max HP%(45), UnbGrd-ResDam(45), Ags-Psi/Status(45)

Level 47: Power Boost -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(48)

Level 49: Weave -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(50), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(50), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50)

Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)

Level 1: Containment

Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)

Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)

Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)

Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)

Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)

Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)

Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)

Level 1: Swift -- Empty(A)

Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(39), Prv-Absorb%(40)

Level 1: Hurdle -- Empty(A)

Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(37), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(40), PrfShf-EndMod/Acc(40)

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Set Bonus Totals:

• 4.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
  
• 4.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
  
• 4.5% DamageBuff(Fire)
  
• 4.5% DamageBuff(Cold)
  
• 4.5% DamageBuff(Energy)
  
• 4.5% DamageBuff(Negative)
  
• 4.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
  
• 4.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
  
• 1.25% Defense(Energy)
  
• 1.25% Defense(Negative)
  
• 0.63% Defense(Ranged)
  
• 2.5% Enhancement(Max EnduranceDiscount)
  
• 96% Enhancement(Accuracy)
  
• 72.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
  
• 7.5% SpeedFlying
  
• GrantPower Preventive Medicine (10% chance, if Scourge)
  
• 148.8 HP (14.63%) HitPoints
  
• 7.5% JumpHeight
  
• 7.5% SpeedJumping
  
• Knockback (Mag -8)
  
• Knockup (Mag -8)
  
• MezResist(Confused) 50%
  
• MezResist(Held) 50%
  
• MezResist(Immobilized) 50%
  
• MezResist(Sleep) 50%
  
• MezResist(Stunned) 50%
  
• MezResist(Terrorized) 50%
  
• 25% (0.42 End/sec) Recovery
  
• 54% (2.29 HP/sec) Regeneration
  
• 26.5% Resistance(Smashing)
  
• 49% Resistance(Fire)
  
• 49% Resistance(Cold)
  
• 29.5% Resistance(Energy)
  
• 29.5% Resistance(Negative)
  
• 25% Resistance(Toxic)
  
• 30% Resistance(Psionic)
  
• 26.5% Resistance(Lethal)
  
• 7.5% SpeedRunning
  

 

 

 

 

[TXG Sync]

Sure, it's a one-trick pony, but WHAT A TRICK!  I wanna go try it now.

 

However, I saw a little room for improvement.  Compare the two builds: nearly identical capabilities, but these tweaks give you improved defense, resistance, and status at the cost of very slightly higher end drain with improved end generation to compensate.  I personally wouldn't quite slot this way because I rarely find endurance a problem due to Transference, but Whirlwind is an end hog for sure!

 

I find Pine's lack of the new knockback set... disturbing. Empty slots bug me, but we all know what they are...

 

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Level 50 Magic Controller

Primary Power Set: Fire Control

Secondary Power Set: Kinetics

Power Pool: Leadership

Power Pool: Fighting

Ancillary Pool: Primal Forces Mastery

 

Hero Profile:

Level 1: Char

• (A) Unbreakable Constraint - Chance for Smashing Damage
  
• (3) Unbreakable Constraint - Accuracy/Recharge
  
• (3) Unbreakable Constraint - Accuracy/Hold/Recharge
  
• (5) Unbreakable Constraint - Hold/Recharge
  
• (5) Unbreakable Constraint - Hold
  

Level 1: Transfusion

• (A) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Endurance/Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration
  
• (7) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Healing
  
• (7) Touch of the Nictus - Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration/Recharge
  
• (9) Touch of the Nictus - Healing
  
• (9) Touch of the Nictus - Chance for Negative Energy Damage
  
• (11) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
  

Level 2: Fire Cages

• (A) Gravitational Anchor - Chance for Hold
  
• (11) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize
  
• (13) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Recharge
  
• (13) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge
  
• (15) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Recharge
  

Level 4: Hasten

• (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  
• (19) Recharge Reduction IO
  

Level 6: Maneuvers

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  
• (21) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
  
• (21) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
  
• (23) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge
  
• (23) Luck of the Gambler - Endurance/Recharge
  

Level 8: Hot Feet

• (A) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage
  
• (25) Armageddon - Damage
  
• (25) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
  
• (27) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
  
• (27) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  
• (29) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge
  

Level 10: Siphon Speed

• (A) Accuracy IO
  
• (29) Recharge Reduction IO
  
• (31) Recharge Reduction IO
  

Level 12: Super Speed

• (A) Celerity - +Stealth
  

Level 14: Whirlwind

• (A) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge
  
• (31) Empty
  
• (31) Endurance Reduction IO
  
• (33) Endurance Reduction IO
  

Level 16: Increase Density

• (A) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance
  

Level 18: Kick

• (A) Empty
  

Level 20: Speed Boost

• (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
  

Level 22: Tactics

• (A) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance
  
• (33) Adjusted Targeting - Endurance/Recharge
  
• (33) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge
  
• (34) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge
  
• (34) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff
  

Level 24: Combat Jumping

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  
• (34) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
  
• (36) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
  
• (36) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage
  

Level 26: Bonfire

• (A) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown
  
• (36) Ragnarok - Damage
  
• (37) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge
  
• (37) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  
• (37) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge
  
• (39) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance
  

Level 28: Inertial Reduction

• (A) Winter's Gift - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
  

Level 30: Tough

• (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
  
• (39) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/Endurance
  
• (39) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection
  

Level 32: Fire Imps

• (A) Soulbound Allegiance - Chance for Build Up
  
• (40) Soulbound Allegiance - Damage
  
• (40) Sovereign Right - Resistance Bonus
  
• (40) Sovereign Right - Accuracy/Damage
  
• (42) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets
  
• (42) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage
  

Level 35: Transference

• (A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge
  
• (42) Efficacy Adaptor - Accuracy/Recharge
  
• (43) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy
  
• (43) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod
  
• (43) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Endurance
  
• (45) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge
  

Level 38: Fulcrum Shift

• (A) Accuracy IO
  
• (45) Recharge Reduction IO
  
• (45) Recharge Reduction IO
  

Level 41: Conserve Power

• (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  
• (46) Recharge Reduction IO
  
• (46) Recharge Reduction IO
  

Level 44: Temp Invulnerability

• (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  
• (46) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP
  
• (48) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  
• (48) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
  

Level 47: Weave

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
  
• (48) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  
• (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
  
• (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
  

Level 49: Power Boost

• (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  
• (50) Recharge Reduction IO
  

Level 1: Brawl

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Containment

Level 1: Prestige Power Dash

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Prestige Power Slide

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Prestige Power Quick

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Prestige Power Rush

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Prestige Power Surge

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Sprint

• (A) Empty
  

Level 2: Rest

• (A) Empty
  

Level 2: Swift

• (A) Run Speed IO
  

Level 2: Health

• (A) Miracle - +Recovery
  
• (15) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
  
• (17) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb
  

Level 2: Hurdle

• (A) Jumping IO
  

Level 2: Stamina

• (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod
  
• (17) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
  
• (19) Endurance Modification IO
  

Level 4: Ninja Run

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Set Bonus Totals:

• 4.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
  
• 4.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
  
• 4.5% DamageBuff(Fire)
  
• 4.5% DamageBuff(Cold)
  
• 4.5% DamageBuff(Energy)
  
• 4.5% DamageBuff(Negative)
  
• 4.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
  
• 4.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
  
• 6.13% Defense(Melee)
  
• 4.56% Defense(Smashing)
  
• 4.56% Defense(Lethal)
  
• 3% Defense(Fire)
  
• 3% Defense(Cold)
  
• 3% Defense(Energy)
  
• 3% Defense(Negative)
  
• 3% Defense(Psionic)
  
• 3% Defense(Ranged)
  
• 3% Defense(AoE)
  
• 2.25% Max End
  
• 96% Enhancement(Accuracy)
  
• 2.5% Enhancement(Max EnduranceDiscount)
  
• 72.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
  
• 5% Enhancement(Heal)
  
• 7.5% SpeedFlying
  
• GrantPower Preventive Medicine (10% chance, if Scourge)
  
• 145 HP (14.25%) HitPoints
  
• 7.5% JumpHeight
  
• 7.5% SpeedJumping
  
• Knockback (Mag -8)
  
• Knockup (Mag -8)
  
• MezResist(Confused) 75%
  
• MezResist(Held) 75%
  
• MezResist(Immobilized) 75%
  
• MezResist(Sleep) 75%
  
• MezResist(Stunned) 75%
  
• MezResist(Terrorized) 75%
  
• 19% (0.32 End/sec) Recovery
  
• 54% (2.29 HP/sec) Regeneration
  
• 28.75% Resistance(Smashing)
  
• 28.75% Resistance(Lethal)
  
• 49% Resistance(Fire)
  
• 49% Resistance(Cold)
  
• 36.25% Resistance(Energy)
  
• 36.25% Resistance(Negative)
  
• 31% Resistance(Toxic)
  
• 37% Resistance(Psionic)
  
• 0% Resistance(Smashing)
  
• 0% Resistance(Lethal)
  
• 0% Resistance(Fire)
  
• 0% Resistance(Cold)
  
• 0% Resistance(Energy)
  
• 0% Resistance(Negative)
  
• 0% Resistance(Toxic)
  
• 0% Resistance(Psionic)
  
• 7.5% SpeedRunning
  

 

 

 

 

[Dahle]

Just a few things (I actually put Fire/Kin to the side while I work on my Fire/Dark), but I moved Overwhelming Force to Imps and put sudden acc in bonfire.  Also, I have never had FS miss, I believe Acc IOs are unneeded in it.

 

Oh... annnnnnd... in Stamina, if you 3 slot, id do Chance for End from Perf Shift and 2 Eff Adapt or just do 3 Perf Shift IOs. It is only a 3% loss, but the 2 piece Perf Shift bonus is travel and not as useful as the 2 Eff Adapt or the 3 Perf Shift. One more slot here and 4 slotting Perf Shift might actually be best. (I'd lose the Chance for Absorb in Health.)

[TXG Sync]

Gotcha. Fair changes. I was trying to keep the theme you'd established while improving defense & resistance, so if those weren't intentional it's a good move.

[Dahle]

Oh mine was pure Splattroller for sure.

[nihilii]

If you like knockdown, it's worth noting kinetics has a native power for that: Repel. Slap your KB->KD IO in it and you've got your KD aura for one power pick, with a radius of 9 feet too. Whirlwind is only 7 feet, if Mids is to be believed (haven't played with whirlwind much so I don't know how the two *truly* compare to each other).

[Dahle]

If you like knockdown, it's worth noting kinetics has a native power for that: Repel. Slap your KB->KD IO in it and you've got your KD aura for one power pick, with a radius of 9 feet too. Whirlwind is only 7 feet, if Mids is to be believed (haven't played with whirlwind much so I don't know how the two *truly* compare to each other).

 

I fine the cost of Repel to be a bit too expensive with the KB to KD proc because things just keep bouncing.  Whirlwind is just hilarious to watch.  And it is procs FF +Rech a good bit.