The Ninjistu Dominator

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Ninjitsu Dominator
1. Immobilizing Dart - Ranged Single Target Immobilize, Minor DoT(Toxic)
2. Choking Powder - Ranged Single Target Hold, Moderate Damage(Toxic)
3. Shuriken Pin - Ranged (Cone) Minor DoT (Lethal), Foe Immobilize, -Fly
4. Caltrops - Ranged (Location AoE) Minor DoT (Lethal), -Speed
5. Smoke Flash - PBAoE Foe -Perception, -ToHit
6. Flash Bomb - PBAoE Foe Disorient, Minor Damage (Psionic)
7. Poison Gas - Ranged Cone Foe Hold, Minor Dot(Toxic)
8. Blinding Powder - Ranged TAoE Foe -ToHit, -Perception, Confuse
9. Call Genin - Summon 2 Genin

[Rudra]

You lost me with Shuriken Pin. Ninjas were never attributed to pin targets with shuriken. The pinning was a sorcery bit attributed to fox spirits and various martial arts mystics or taoist sorcerers, and was called a shadow pin. A small knife of some type was thrown at the target's shadow to stop them from moving, and it did not typically affect anything flying. Though in a few cases where a flier was mentioned, the target retained its position in flight. Shadow pinning a target did not stop them from taking actions, just from moving from where they were. (Immob like you listed, but not -fly.) (The knife in the shadow kept the target from moving because the shadow was part of the individual and could not move from its current location. The arms and head worked just fine, it's just the legs [or wings if applicable] could not move the target away from their current location.)

 

(Now, if the shuriken pin is a more traditional 'lots of projectiles pinning target to surface bit', that can work. Though technically you would need a teleport component to move the target to a convenient wall. And it would technically be ST. And it would be a hold.)

 

The Poison Gas ability would make more sense as a targeted AoE. Poison gas capsules were typically tossed or dropped, not expelled. Though I guess it could be a sleeve-mounted projector instead of a poison gas bomb. (That would be more of a gadgetry or gimmick character than a ninja, but that is being a bit too nitpicky.)

 

Call Genin raises the question of whether they would be the basic genin ninja MMs start with or if they would have any of their upgrades.

 

Aside from those three questions/concerns? Proposed set looks interesting.

 

 

(Edit: For clarification, the target's torso was shadow pinned and could not be moved. Not even to turn around. Limbs were all fine though.)

Edited March 6, 2022 by Rudra

[Outrider_01]

Lacking melee attacks 🎤🖐🧐👌

 

Edit: was think /Assault. The range typed attacks threw me off

Edited March 6, 2022 by Outrider_01

[Naraka]

I'd almost suggest looking into the Poison, Nature and Traps support set for some extra powers to diversify it a bit.

 

All in all, maybe add this to the eco-friendly powerset suggestion thread.

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2 hours ago, Naraka said:

I'd almost suggest looking into the Poison, Nature and Traps support set for some extra powers to diversify it a bit.

I want it to be realistic without and slightly different without adding any additional animation needs for the devs.

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3 hours ago, Rudra said:

You lost me with Shuriken Pin. Ninjas were never attributed to pin targets with shuriken.

Think of another way a ninja could pin a group in place without it being caltrops.

 

3 hours ago, Rudra said:

The Poison Gas ability would make more sense as a targeted AoE.

Too easy. Plus, I see it as a breathable attack like Neurotoxic Breath.

 

3 hours ago, Rudra said:

Call Genin raises the question of whether they would be the basic genin ninja MMs start with or if they would have any of their upgrades.

This would simply be addressed by the amount of powers required to be on par with other pets.

[Rudra]

Well, ninjas weren't known for pinning groups in place. Unless, of course, they set a trap and cut the retaining line so something like a group of stacked logs fell on the targets. Or by poisoning the group's food in advance so they would be too sick to go anywhere or do anything. So I don't really have any idea how a ninja could pin a group in place using given stories/lore. I guess you could simply declare the ninja set as dabbling in taoist sorcery or drawing from fox spirit teachings instead of tengu teachings to have a shadow pin ability. (Though fox spirits weren't exactly known for teaching anyone anything except frustration, regret, and humiliation. ... so probably stick to your ninja set as dabbling in taoist sorcery.)

 

The idea of a neurotoxic breath on a ninja doesn't really work. They would poison themselves. They have been known to keep a mouthful of tiny darts to spray in a foe's face as a last resort, sure, but never poison. (And the darts could only be used against a single target within spitting distance. Like literally that close.) They risked any mouth held poisons leaking and affecting them instead, so they didn't use it. Hence, ninja were known for poison gas bombs instead. (Poison gas capsules actually, but they were called bombs.)

 

(Edit: You could get away with a ninja imbibing a poison and then immediately spraying it on nearby foes. Imbibing fluid to spray in a foe's face is a common enough martial arts trope that extending it to ninjutsu is not a problem. So just have the animation include imbibing a vial of poison as the attack's opening. Why the imbibed poison doesn't affect the ninja? I have no clue. It should. I'm trying to find a plausible reason for the cone.)

 

I'm just asking questions because of the given lore compared to the suggested build.

Edited March 7, 2022 by Rudra

[Menelruin]

2 hours ago, Rudra said:

(Edit: You could get away with a ninja imbibing a poison and then immediately spraying it on nearby foes. Imbibing fluid to spray in a foe's face is a common enough martial arts trope that extending it to ninjutsu is not a problem. So just have the animation include imbibing a vial of poison as the attack's opening. Why the imbibed poison doesn't affect the ninja? I have no clue. It should. I'm trying to find a plausible reason for the cone.)

 

I'm just asking questions because of the given lore compared to the suggested build.

Two words:  Iocaine Powder 😉 

[Rudra]

Princess Bride has no ninja (Westley was a masked swashbuckler) , iocaine powder is a fictional poison only found in Princess Bride, and iocaine powder is an ingested poison. So spraying it on someone does nothing.

 

Okay! Now that that is out of my system, sure, Poison Gas uses a liquid contact poison the character spews in a cone. And the poison does not affect the character because (s)he built up an immunity to it as part of training or natural resistance. (Superhero video game. Some suspension of disbelief is mandatory.)

 

The shadow pin power, sorry, Shuriken Pin, uses taoist sorcery copied by the ninjas.

 

Genin... will have their power selection handled by the devs.

 

Everything makes sense. Power set is Ret 2 Go.