Superbitsandbob Posted April 28, 2022 Posted April 28, 2022 Hey friends, Massive n00b so forgive any silly questions. I am wanting to play a Plant Controller for the theme and RP but I can mostly only solo for various reasons. What would be a good secondary to go with it? I'm looking to do as much of the content as I can solo including bosses and whatever. Thanks in advance!
Doomguide2005 Posted April 28, 2022 Posted April 28, 2022 Pretty much any secondary will work. Narrowing it down becomes more important if you want to solo AVs and mobs at +4/×8, but if you're looking to solo at base difficulties and role play is the most important element then ultimately all secondaries can do it. Especially when or if you're talking post Incarnate it becomes more a matter of builds than which secondary. That said you really only have one pet to buff so I'd lean towards a debuff set or Storm. 1
Superbitsandbob Posted April 28, 2022 Author Posted April 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, Doomguide2005 said: Pretty much any secondary will work. Narrowing it down becomes more important if you want to solo AVs and mobs at +4/×8, but if you're looking to solo at base difficulties and role play is the most important element then ultimately all secondaries can do it. Especially when or if you're talking post Incarnate it becomes more a matter of builds than which secondary. That said you really only have one pet to buff so I'd lean towards a debuff set or Storm. Thanks for the help. Aye I would like to try push the boundaries solo if possible. I like the look of poison or rad for the theme but not sure if they would help towards my goals.
jojogladco Posted April 28, 2022 Posted April 28, 2022 Plant/Storm is very fun. While you do get Seeds early the build doesn't really tend to come together until later in the 30s when you can add Tornado and LS to the fun. Plant/Dark is a really smooth leveling progression with fun power picks nearly every level. This was the 1st toon I solo'ed an ITF with so you can do pretty much all content with one if you like. 3
WitchofDread Posted April 28, 2022 Posted April 28, 2022 here is a plant/dark build i have been working on but yet to put into practise. This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.2.17https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Level 50 Magic Controller Primary Power Set: Plant Control Secondary Power Set: Darkness Affinity Power Pool: Sorcery Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Speed Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery Hero Profile: ------------ Level 1: Strangler (A) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Chance of Damage(Psionic) (3) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage (3) Unbreakable Constraint - Chance for Smashing Damage (5) Gladiator's Net - Chance of Damage(Lethal) (5) Neuronic Shutdown - Chance of Damage(Psionic) (7) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic) Level 1: Twilight Grasp (A) Panacea - Heal (7) Panacea - Heal/Endurance (9) Panacea - Endurance/Recharge (9) Panacea - Heal/Recharge (11) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge (11) Accuracy IO Level 2: Roots (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (13) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage (13) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance (15) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range (15) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy) (17) Trap of the Hunter - Chance of Damage(Lethal) Level 4: Tar Patch (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 6: Arcane Bolt (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage (21) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative) (21) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic) (23) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (46) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge Level 8: Seeds of Confusion (A) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance/Recharge (23) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance (25) Superior Will of the Controller - Control Duration/Recharge (25) Superior Will of the Controller - Endurance/Recharge (27) Superior Will of the Controller - Recharge/Chance for Psionic Damage (27) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Control Duration Level 10: Darkest Night (A) Endurance Reduction IO (29) Endurance Reduction IO Level 12: Mystic Flight (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points) Level 14: Howling Twilight (A) Annihilation - Chance for Res Debuff Level 16: Shadow Fall (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (29) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (31) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage (31) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) Level 18: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (33) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance Level 20: Fade (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (33) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge (33) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge (34) Reactive Defenses - Defense/RechargeTime Level 22: Kick (A) Accuracy IO Level 24: Tough (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) (34) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% Level 26: Carrion Creepers (A) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy) (34) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Recharge (36) Annihilation - Chance for Res Debuff (36) Trap of the Hunter - Chance of Damage(Lethal) (36) Bombardment - Chance for Fire Damage (37) Javelin Volley - Chance of Damage(Lethal) Level 28: Soul Absorption (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 30: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (37) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (37) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (39) Kismet - Accuracy +6% Level 32: Fly Trap (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge (39) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (39) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge (40) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage (40) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage (40) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff Level 35: Spirit Tree (A) Healing IO Level 38: Dark Servant (A) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage (42) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (42) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Recharge (42) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff/Endurance/Recharge Level 41: Dark Embrace (A) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP (43) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (43) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (43) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime Level 44: Dark Obliteration (A) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage (45) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy) (45) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (45) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage (46) Javelin Volley - Chance of Damage(Lethal) (46) Bombardment - Chance for Fire Damage Level 47: Soul Drain (A) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage (48) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage (48) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage (48) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal) (50) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (50) Recharge Reduction IO Level 49: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (50) Recharge Reduction IO Level 1: Containment Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Sprint (A) Empty Level 2: Rest (A) Empty Level 2: Swift (A) Run Speed IO Level 2: Hurdle (A) Jumping IO Level 2: Health (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance (17) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery (19) Miracle - 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WitchofDread Posted April 28, 2022 Posted April 28, 2022 1 minute ago, jojogladco said: Plant/Storm is very fun. While you do get Seeds early the build doesn't really tend to come together until later in the 30s when you can add Tornado and LS to the fun. Plant/Dark is a really smooth leveling progression with fun power picks nearly every level. This was the 1st toon I solo'ed an ITF with so you can do pretty much all content with one if you like. Be really curious to see your plant/dark build if you care to share. 🙂 1
Doomguide2005 Posted April 28, 2022 Posted April 28, 2022 No real experience with Poison but it certainly should be very solid. Same with Rad, Cold and Dark. Storm is more about raw damage but brings Hurricane's to hit debuff and Freezing Rain to the damage Tornado and Lightning Storm provide. Storm itself is a late bloomer ... but Plant gets Seeds of Confusion which can more than carry you till Storm comes into itself. 1
Psyonico Posted April 28, 2022 Posted April 28, 2022 I'd say if you're looking to push the limits then you want to look at /Rad or /Traps 1 What this team needs is more Defenders
Carnifax Posted April 28, 2022 Posted April 28, 2022 (edited) Plant/Storm is a classic for a reason. Traps lends itself to soloing but takes a decent amount of +recharge to really get going. But Seeds + Creepers + Boomy traps things is always going to be effective. Plant/Trick Arrow should also be pretty darn effective. Although in its case maybe all that -ToHit might be a hinderance (you don't want the enemy missing each other once you've confused them). At least with Plant/Dark you can switch off Darkest Night. Edited April 28, 2022 by Carnifax 1 1 My level 50 builds [Bullitt Time : DP/Kin Corruptor] [Carnifax : Ill/Dark Controller] [Kerriae : Plant/Storm Controller] [Echinoderm : Bio/Spines Tank] [Iron Brew : Mace/Rad Brute] [Snookered : Staff/NRG Brute] [iScream : Ice/Ice Scrapper] [Binman : Savage/Shield Stalker] [Modul-8 : Time/Sonic Defender] [Concussion Blast : Fire/NRG Domi] [Orblivion : Dark/Martial Domi] [Mombie : Necro/Nature MM] [Tempore : Water/Time Blaster] [Thermodynamic Flux : Ice/Fire Blaster] [Carni's Online CombatLog Parser Alpha]
Corythia Posted April 28, 2022 Posted April 28, 2022 I agree with Carnifax, Plant/Storm or Plant/TA are both really good solo, and Plant is good solo from level 9ish after you get seeds. It gets a big boost at 26 with creepers. I would recommend Ice as an epic, you will start off with a cone Seeds, so doing roots, then frost breath after that will sliver most of the minions pretty much immediately. Honestly, Plant/anything is strong. I have a Plant/Nature that I think of as easy mode, and a Plant/Time that is also really resilient. All of these can solo pretty easily because of Seeds+Creepers plus whatever attacks you add later. Honestly Plant/Storm/Ice is my favorite character ever, in any game, ever. 1
Riverdusk Posted April 28, 2022 Posted April 28, 2022 Did plant/dark/psi to 50 and it was an easy ride and amazingly tanky. Trying plant/cold/ice (bit more offensive a combo) now and so far also fantastic. Looking forward to roots + creepers + sleet + ice storm to melt things. And you have benumb to take out AV/GM's. As others have said, plant/anything should work well. Plant almost doesn't even need a secondary to be good. 1
WitchofDread Posted April 28, 2022 Posted April 28, 2022 Just done some testing with Plant/Dark/fire against pylons: 1. 03:18 2. 02:48 3. 02:52 Pretty good numbers *Shrug* 2
Without_Pause Posted April 28, 2022 Posted April 28, 2022 To be honest, pylon times aren't really even Plant's strength since Seeds is a non-issue. I solo on my Plant/ta as needed. The two holds mean bosses are held quickly even with basic slotting. 2 Top 10 Most Fun 50s. 1. Without Mercy: Claws/ea Scrapper. 2. Outsmart: Fort 3. Sneakers: Stj/ea Stalker. 4. Emma Strange: Ill/dark Controller. 5. Project Next: Ice/stone Brute. 6. Waterpark: Water/temp Blaster. 6. Mighty Matt: Rad/bio Brute. 7. Without Hesitation: Claws/sr Scrapper. 8. Within Reach: Axe/stone Brute. 9. Without Pause: Claws/wp Brute. 10. Chasing Fireworks: Fire/time Controller. "Downtime is for mortals. Debt is temporary. Fame is forever."
Superbitsandbob Posted April 29, 2022 Author Posted April 29, 2022 Thanks for all of your feedback friends, much appreciated.
Chelsea Rorec Posted April 29, 2022 Posted April 29, 2022 (edited) 21 hours ago, WitchofDread said: here is a plant/dark build i have been working on but yet to put into practise. This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.2.17https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn No,No.. BAD ! You WILL do a short forum export. Now go sit in the corner and think about what you've done. Edited April 29, 2022 by Chelsea Rorec
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