Fire/Stone/Fire

[LegionAlpha]

You all helped me in this section have helped me with some of my heroes to get to where they need to be, so this time I need help with this one. I have a fire(resist) Stone(melee), Fire ( Power pool) set and I am still too squishy. Any advice to make it no so squishy

[BrandX]

Here's my own Fire/Axe/Fire to give you some ideas.  You likely could skip some of what I took, to make it work for you and part of what I took was for concept reasons.  If I wasn't Axe, I likely would've tried to fit in some of the Fire Epic Attacks and not rely on Incarnate for a Fire Blast.

[PLVRIZR]

10 hours ago, LegionAlpha said:

You all helped me in this section have helped me with some of my heroes to get to where they need to be, so this time I need help with this one. I have a fire(resist) Stone(melee), Fire (Power pool) set and I am still too squishy. Any advice to make it no so squishy

 

Fire will never be as durable as other primaries, but you can do a lot to make it a lot "less squishy".

 

If you would post your build, many will make suggestions on improvements (like have you slotted the ATOs and, if so, in what powers).  Having said that:

-Fire needs to kill more quickly than other tanks.  Dead foes can't hit you back.

-Stone Melee has a whole lot of mitigation.  Foes on their arse can't hit you back.

-Incarnates can close holes in Defense or Resistance (if you're 50+).  You can also get DDR, which fire tanks desperately need.

 

I don't have a Fire/Stone, but @Sovera is the fire tank guru, so a quick search might glean more.  My only Fire tank is Fire/MA (because of the Def. adds of Storm Kick - Sovera's Brunker build, basically).  I run a ridiculously durable Ice/Stone tank, with lots of mitigation from stone melee, so if you want either of those builds for comparison, I'll post or send 'em to you.

[Sovera]

As Pulverizer (sorry man, I can't make myself misspell the name :D) said I've a Fire Armor/Stone Tank in my signature. Fire is pretty sturdy though it mainly works on kill first instead of 'go in and AFK in the middle of things' like most tanks like to brag about.

 

It was not the combo I liked the most (though I loved the lava skins in Stone since it made the combo so visually thematic) but it has built in CC and good sources for Force Feedback procs which further help with survival.

[PLVRIZR]

3 hours ago, Sovera said:

As Pulverizer (sorry man, I can't make myself misspell the name :D)

 

LOL, no worries.  By the time I made PLV (what @Warboss and everyone calls me on Tanker Tuesdays) on Live, "Pulverizer" was already taken.  By the time I found Homecoming (Feb. 2020), most of my other names were also taken, so I stuck with the license plate theme, for the most part.

[Meknomancer]

Been playing a few stone melee toons lately and i'm convinced fault is the least accurate attack in the game if only it wasn't so much fun at keeping the mobs flip flopping. And its stackable with tremor. And it slots ff procs. I hate kb so my melee toons go overboard i aim for 12 points minimal which means leaving other powers unslotted. And i don't use fly on melee toons. Fitting in fire isn't easy, you will leave yourself struggling with the blue bar. I don't have a fire/stone tank but i do have a brute and i know the tanker will be better purely because of the AT sets so i may get around to it one day. The tanker will probably out damage it too if you swap stuff around, tanks can throw in way more damage procs without sacrificing what the brute does. This doesn't have many it would probably need a t4 barrier. 

 

 

This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.2.17
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

FIRE STONE FIRE: Level 49 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Secondary Power Set: Stone Melee
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Pyre Mastery

Hero Profile:
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Level 1:    Blazing Aura            SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(A), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(3), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(5), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7)
Level 1:    Stone Fist            KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(7), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(9), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9)
Level 2:    Fire Shield            UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-Max HP%(13), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(15), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(15), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(17), StdPrt-ResKB(17)
Level 4:    Healing Flames            Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg(19), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(19), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(21), Prv-Heal(21), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(23)
Level 6:    Heavy Mallet            SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(23), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(25), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(27), FrcFdb-Rechg%(48)
Level 8:    Consume                EffAdp-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(A)
Level 10:    Boxing                Empty(A)
Level 12:    Plasma Shield            UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(27), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(29), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(29), GldArm-3defTpProc(31)
Level 14:    Tough                DS:DSyncEndRes(A)
Level 16:    Build Up            GssSynFr--Build%(A)
Level 18:    Burn                Arm-Dam%(A), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(31), Arm-Acc/Rchg(31), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(33), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(33)
Level 20:    Fault                SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), FrcFdb-Rechg%(36), DS:DSyncAccDam(36)
Level 22:    Weave                LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(36)
Level 24:    Super Speed            WntGif-ResSlow(A)
Level 26:    Fiery Embrace            RechRdx-I(A)
Level 28:    Tremor                SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(37), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), FrcFdb-Rechg%(39)
Level 30:    Hasten                RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(39)
Level 32:    Combat Jumping            LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(40), Rct-ResDam%(40), Krm-ResKB(40), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(42)
Level 35:    Char                GldJvl-Dam%(A), UnbCns-Dam%(42), Apc-Dam%(42), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(43), DS:DSyncAccDam(43)
Level 38:    Seismic Smash            KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(43), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(45), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), Hct-Dam%(45), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46)
Level 41:    Melt Armor            AnlWkn-Acc/Rchg/EndRdx(A), AchHee-ResDeb%(46)
Level 44:    Fire Ball            Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(A), Bmbdmt-Acc/Dam/Rech/End(46), Bmbdmt-Dam(47), Bmbdmt-Acc/Rech/End(47), Bmbdmt-Acc/Dam/Rech(47), Ann-ResDeb%(48)
Level 47:    Maneuvers            LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(48)
Level 49:    Taunt                DS:DSyncThreatAccRech(A)
Level 1:    Brawl                Empty(A)
Level 1:    Gauntlet    
Level 1:    Sprint                Empty(A)
Level 2:    Rest                Empty(A)
Level 1:    Swift                Empty(A)
Level 1:    Health                Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(11), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(11)
Level 1:    Hurdle                Empty(A)
Level 1:    Stamina                PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(13)
Level 24:    Speed Phase    
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