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The fact you were shot down multiple times with your proof and tried to find something else to point at each time for one specific group instead of just getting another easier to find example by standing in Atlas for 10 seconds would make it clear that you are trying to grind an axe, partner. Just being honest.

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I super regret mentioning the copyright issue. Meh.

 

It was a caution, it's in the EULA, I gave an example to show how serious they are about it. Don't know nuthin' bout no exceptions. I am sure that GMs cannot be everywhere. I am also sure that they, as volunteers, are doing their best. This escalated quickly!  Seems a sore topic for some. 😞 Mebbe we just go back to discussing whether or not there are classic TV bases. And there are not, to my knowledge, any bases modeled after a television set. There are, however, a ton of creative, original bases! I invite you to go exploring and see how amazing our local base building community can be.

 

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3 hours ago, Indystruck said:

The fact you were shot down multiple times with your proof and tried to find something else to point at each time for one specific group instead of just getting another easier to find example by standing in Atlas for 10 seconds would make it clear that you are trying to grind an axe, partner. Just being honest.

 

Shot down how?  The titles I linked to are legit Marvel titles using the name "The Marvels".  There's also the Marvel film called "The Marvels" in production now, so it's legit proof the title owned by Marvel.  I don't see any exceptions in the CoC for "predating" or anything like that.  I can't provide a link to hidden posts, but don't have to believe me, @Troo can verify the content.  That's why we were discussing copyrights in that thread in the first place.  You can believe whatever you like, I don't have any axes to grind.  Yeah, I disagreed with the whole copyright rule thing when it was implemented, but I've accepted it and agreed to abide by it like everyone else.  It's an official rule now and everyone has to abide by it. 

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I know a common rule of thumb in other games aims for finding two points of contact to determine if an IP has been breached.  Obviously certain names like Spider-Man or Batman would be notable rips on existing IPs even before looking at the costume, but so long as Arachnid-Guy and Batdude have their own unique take on the costume, they'd fall more under parody or homage.  As for the Marvels, we've been using the name for a long time now, even before we were hosting CC's.  We've never copied a single IP from Marvel, nor do we claim that we are Marvel.  We used a word in the English language that has obvious throwbacks to the company because we're fans, as can be seen in how most of our winners were more tights-based heroes.  Unfortunately, Marvel is now using that same name for their IPs.  Clearly, we don't want to lose the name, but if the GMs determine it's against TOS, then we'll have to suck it up and accept a new name.

 

It's just more than a little strange that we haven't hosted a CC for months and haven't been public much at all recently and yet we're 'bending the rules', have preferential treatment and other nonsense though.

 

As to the original discussion, UltraAlt's suggestion is likely your best bet.  Do what you can to mimic the aesthetics and tone while making it your own and you should be safe from Impervium 🙂

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Friend of the Marvels here. I'll only echo what Kurbee said. No-one's trying to infringe anything. If the GMs rule the Marvels have to change the name they'll change the name, with regrets but no drama. Hopefully it won't come to that and everyone is cool, like lots of little Fonzies.

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17 minutes ago, Kurbee said:

Unfortunately, Marvel is now using that same name for their IPs.  Clearly, we don't want to lose the name, but if the GMs determine it's against TOS, then we'll have to suck it up and accept a new name.

 

I can empathize, however I think it better to be safe than sorry here and your group should be renamed, no offense meant.  If you all believe that strongly that you should be allowed to use the name, by all means take it up with Disney yourselves.  It is not worth risking the game for everyone else.  That rule was put in place for a reason after all.  

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--- I'm rewording this post because it was based on missing content flow ---

 

I think that this thread is important, and it should not be removed.

 

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If someone posts a reply quoting me and I don't reply, they are most probably on ignore.

Some of them even know that I have them on ignore.

But that won't stop some of them from bullying and harassing people, because some of them love to do it.

It's who they are. There is a group of them that have banded together to do it. They think that it is acceptable.

Ignore is a tool to improve your gaming experience. Don't feel bad about using it.

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6 hours ago, Dacy said:

I super regret mentioning the copyright issue. Meh.

 

You shouldn't. It needed to be said.

When people feel bad about protecting things that they love, they are likely to lose the things that they love.

 

6 hours ago, Dacy said:

It was a caution, it's in the EULA, I gave an example to show how serious they are about it.

 

This reply isn't directed at you, but more at those that read this thread and are reading this as a discussion.

 

Caution is good as this covers the protection as mentioned above in another way - protecting the things that someone creates in-game.

People spend time creating bases and characters. Taking time to make sure that they aren't removed or changed because of the necessity of avoiding copyright issues in-game, it's best to let players know not to work to create copyright-infringing content because it could be removed and/or potential cause account removal at the high-end of enforcement (I don't know if Homecoming has ever gone that far).

 

I can't see a good number of posts in this thread because I have those players on ignore, but I'm assuming they are exhibiting the same kind of behavior that ended them up on my ignore list. 

Basically what I'm saying, you may be getting negative feedback from players that have historically acted with bad behavior as far as I'm concerned.

You may want to contemplate whether what they say is valid or not and/or if use of the ignore function is for you.

 

7 hours ago, Dacy said:

There are, however, a ton of creative, original bases! I invite you to go exploring and see how amazing our local base building community can be.

 

3 hours ago, Kurbee said:

As to the original discussion, UltraAlt's suggestion is likely your best bet.  Do what you can to mimic the aesthetics and tone while making it your own and you should be safe from Impervium 🙂

 

Thanks.

 

 

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If someone posts a reply quoting me and I don't reply, they are most probably on ignore.

Some of them even know that I have them on ignore.

But that won't stop some of them from bullying and harassing people, because some of them love to do it.

It's who they are. There is a group of them that have banded together to do it. They think that it is acceptable.

Ignore is a tool to improve your gaming experience. Don't feel bad about using it.

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