Unbreakable Guard 1st Bonus Giving Incorrect %

[meridianarc]

Unbreakable Guard 1st set bonus states it gives -2.5% and I have 2 sets on which would total -5%. Image attached showing that its actually giving -2.43% each which totals -4.76%. Though even the totaling is incorrect within combat attributes and states -4.75%.

 

I'm unsure if all this is just displaying incorrect, or if the discount itself is applying wrong too. Small difference either way, but thought I'd report it anyways.

 

Cheers all

 

This is on Excelsior btw just in case it matter.

[Booper]

New End Cost = Base End Cost / (1 + EndRedux)

 

Normalized to percentage:

 

New End Cost % = 100% / (1 + EndRedux)

 

Plug in 2.5% End redux

 

100% / (1 + 0.025) = 97.56%

 

So your endurance is reduced 2.44% (100% - 97.56% = 2.44%). 

 

What you're seeing the screenshot is that calculation...which honestly is not useful to display.

[Luminara]

20 minutes ago, Booper said:

What you're seeing the screenshot is that calculation...which honestly is not useful to display.

 

Neither is the way regeneration is conveyed to the player, if you're looking for something else to fix.

 

"47.61 HP/s" when the character has 400% regeneration isn't useful because it doesn't inform the player that what it actually means is "5% of your maximum health is restored every 3s".  There's no regeneration at all until the unspecified interval elapses.  It's an inaccurate expression of the mechanic which misleads the player.  It should display time between regeneration ticks, not HP/s.

[meridianarc]

Fascinating. Shouldn't the end cost be something straight forward?

New End Cost = Base End Cost  +  EndRedux

Its very straight forward and is accurate to the description. Using the current calculation you've shown, its not reduced by 2.5%. If you did that in class you're get it marked wrong.

The point of showing numbers like that is very important because its how people crunch numbers for builds. If you did 5 sets with this then that's 12.5% and that's a hefty reduction of end. The player would be expecting that end cost formula above to be used and would be calculating their build accordingly. They are expecting to only have 87.5% end cost on their abilities instead of the 88.88~ it would otherwise be. That's over a full % lost with an incorrect formula causing a 10% difference in expected results o.0 The expectation vs reality gets much larger apart when you figure in other end redux the build may have.

Its fine to use that formula though. I'm sure there are reasons its used, probably concerning diminishing returns on things. The issue is the description for end redux on that set bonus, or any other incorrectly displayed end reduction. It would be better to say "reduces end reduction by a small amount" or actually say 2.44% instead of 2.5%. This way they know to check combat attributes to see the proper number, or they'll actually have the proper number to begin with.

[Luminara]

4 hours ago, meridianarc said:

Fascinating. Shouldn't the end cost be something straight forward?

New End Cost = Base End Cost  +  EndRedux

 

That would permit players to reduce any power's endurance cost to 0.  The existing calculation builds in a diminishing return to prevent that so there's always an element of risk (running out of endurance).