Symphony is worthless trash.

[Wavicle]

And I'm tired of pretending it's not.

I want a real Confuse. I want a real pet. What is this crap?

[Snarky]

Yep Symphony sucks.

 

[JasperStone]

I have it on both a Dom and Troller, both Symphony/Sonic

 

Once I switched to using the sleep as the go-to opener, the set became 

...

...

...

Music to my ears

<.<

>.>

🙂

 

With sonic, I have a repulse toggle that I cast on the pet ... helps to keep foes away.

[Seed22]

9 hours ago, Wavicle said:

And I'm tired of pretending it's not.

I want a real Confuse. I want a real pet. What is this crap?

This is a meme, right? Am I not in on the joke? When did this set become trash?

[Black Zot]

1 hour ago, Seed22 said:

This is a meme, right? Am I not in on the joke? When did this set become trash?

 

I wouldn't call it trash, but it'd be nice to have an actual single target hold instead of that mag 1 placeholder.

[Herotu]

On 10/22/2022 at 3:33 PM, Snarky said:

Yep Symphony sucks.

 

'troll over, Beethoven.

[Snarky]

2 hours ago, Herotu said:

'troll over, Beethoven.

Well I used to love it....

 

But it's 'troll over now....

[Wavicle]

This is basically fair, I was annoyed about the set and I was looking for a reaction.

 

However, i really do think the confuse having damage was an error as was the pet having no actions of its own.

 

 Other than those two glaring problems, it’s a fine set.

[Frosticus]

ya single target confuse that causes aggro doesn't make a whole ton of sense to me.

If it got out super fast (like seeds animation) I could see using it midfight a lot more.  That said, it is free damage if I was already going to confuse an enemy during the fight anyway. I'm sure it has uses, proly just requires a different approach than i'm used to.

[TygerDarkstorm]

Strategies and such discussed at length here: 

 

And here:

 

Look for the post by Captain Powerhouse on page 9 in case it didn't link right. He gives an in-depth breakdown of how the pet works.

 

I'm still not thrilled about the Reverb's change to being a ranged AI. I know WHY they did it, but on the default AI he made for an amazing tank (at least on my Symph/Sonic test controller). I'll probably be forever salty about that change, lol.

 

Otherwise, Symphony was intended to have a different playstyle from the other control sets, and imo, is better on a controller than a dom because it really wants to have its powers used like blasts and used more frequently than doms tend to use theirs. The confuse wasn't really intended to be used as an opener, though I was able to cheese it some in testing where if I did it at max range it sometimes wouldn't notify all the mobs. 

[Wavicle]

1 hour ago, TygerDarkstorm said:

is better on a controller than a dom because it really wants to have its powers used like blasts and used more frequently than doms tend to use theirs

this is precisely the problem

[TygerDarkstorm]

53 minutes ago, Wavicle said:

this is precisely the problem

*shrug* There's sets like that for both AT's. Mind Control is better on doms than trollers.

[Rahabina]

On 10/23/2022 at 12:03 PM, Herotu said:

'troll over, Beethoven.

@Snarky is a king of trolls! And I have to remember this when I read his posts.  There is sometimes very useful intel beneath his trolling 😃

[Rahabina]

What is a good secondary you think?

[twozerofoxtrot]

6 hours ago, Rahabina said:

What is a good secondary you think?

 

I did just a bit of testing back in beta and liked Fire, Dark, and Elec best (at 50, solo).

 

Fire: Ranged ST champ

Dark: Survivability 

Elec: Voltaic Sent is a pet that attacks independent of you and I liked slotting the damage/endmod sets into the elec ranged attacks for their recharge set bonuses. Plus the chance to get End back is helpful.

 

I'm sure others have better suggestions.  This was just my rough take, as I quickly moved on to Trollers for this set.

[TygerDarkstorm]

1 hour ago, twozerofoxtrot said:

 

I did just a bit of testing back in beta and liked Fire, Dark, and Elec best (at 50, solo).

 

Fire: Ranged ST champ

Dark: Survivability 

Elec: Voltaic Sent is a pet that attacks independent of you and I liked slotting the damage/endmod sets into the elec ranged attacks for their recharge set bonuses. Plus the chance to get End back is helpful.

 

I'm sure others have better suggestions.  This was just my rough take, as I quickly moved on to Trollers for this set.

Your take mirrored what people like @oedipus_tex determined about it in the beta as well; /Fire and /Dark are probably Symph's best pairings on a dom. I know some folks keep trying to pair it with /Sonic, and I'm sure it can be made to work, but the two sets are very much at odds with one another considering Symph wants to be at range and /Sonic wants to be in melee. Otherwise yeah, I prefer Symph on a troller as well.

[Bionic_Flea]

I agree with Tyger.  I made a Symphonic/Sonic Dom and hated it.  Terrible pairing.  Cones are horrible in melee range and Symphonic is just about all cones. 

 

But I loved my Symphonic/Dark Controller.  I slotted for range bonuses to make those cones go far and deep.  And then I added Ice mastery for some extra cold cone damage.  Rev and Fluffy make a great controlling duo and add lots of survivability.

 

[Rahabina]

16 hours ago, twozerofoxtrot said:

 

I did just a bit of testing back in beta and liked Fire, Dark, and Elec best (at 50, solo).

 

Fire: Ranged ST champ

Dark: Survivability 

Elec: Voltaic Sent is a pet that attacks independent of you and I liked slotting the damage/endmod sets into the elec ranged attacks for their recharge set bonuses. Plus the chance to get End back is helpful.

 

I'm sure others have better suggestions.  This was just my rough take, as I quickly moved on to Trollers for this set.

Right away Elec and Dark came to mind.  Elec is a really good support set too.  I have tons of Dark whatevers now

[High_Beam]

Swaying to the Symphony . . . of Destruction!