Xandyr Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 So, it's my understanding that Brimstone Armor gives a chance of fire damage with each attack? If that's the case, does Stone Armor get more benefit from a more AoE focused primary (say like Staff or something) vs a primary more geared towards ST damage (like EM)? And this extra damage, is it pushing towards Bio Armor levels, or is Bio still the way to go for most damage? What you wanted to know about Bio, but never asked - Tanker - Homecoming (homecomingservers.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeGuy Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Honestly, it adds enough for Bio levels of damage. Big drawback for ME personally is Stone Armor for scrappers lacks a taunt aura. As for pairing? I don't see how it wouldn't go well with whatever you like to play. Obviously the PBAOE aura is going to really help a ST oriented primary a lot, but it helps everything. 1 Pylon and Trapdoor Results Spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d0VruEHGktnPFvtMLF_MdpKPBe0wgUhzyGvb1DQNQQo/edit#gid=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrax Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 I just leveled a fire/stone to 50 and it’s been fun. Setting them on fire twice is neat. If you don’t have a spines I’d do that though. I already have a spines or I would try that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaghetti Betty Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 My Ice/Stone was a blast to play up to 50 and beyond. It was just a very smooth experience overall. Ice Patch kept me very safe and made sure I didn't have to worry about runners. Never once felt like my damage was low. In fact, I still use this scrapper for 4* ITFs. 2 Mainly on Excelsior. Find me in game @Spaghetti Betty. AE Arcs: Big Magic Blowout! 41612 | The Meta-Human Wrestling Association 44683 | MHWA Part 2 48577 Click to look at my pets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosticus Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 I have a db/stone that uses the hedge trimmer looking sawblades. Super powered landscaper. Proc damage from brimstone is nice. Damage boost from feint to the damage aura is nice too. 1 Earth/Psi Dom - AV killer Crazy Controllers - 2021 edition - Illusion/Cold Poison - a guide to the most deadly poisons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobbledigook Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 The New Battle Axe might be worth a whirl :P. It can draw the enemies in maybe alleviating the lack of a taunt aura some. It isn't adding Bio levels of damage/resistance debuff but it is nice to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandX Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 I'll still suggest Claws, as it's not an option for Brutes or Tankers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrax Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Just tried spines/stone to 50+. It is a blast. Haven't respec'd to 50 build yet but I like it much more than Fire/stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm2 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 I just got a spine/ stone (graniteless) Brute to T3 incarnates, and it's been a ton of fun. I took Barb Swipe and skipped Impale to better pressure hard targets with DoTs. I went with Brute over Scrapper because I could build over 3k hp under Earth's Embrace, and the DoTs get a boost from Fury. And taunt. I might try a high burst damage set like Fire or Energy to pair with Stone on a Scrapper, maybe less runners if they're dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zepp Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 On 11/5/2022 at 10:23 AM, BrandX said: I'll still suggest Claws, as it's not an option for Brutes or Tankers You can't do claws with Stone Armor Archetype Concept Compilation -- Powerset Concept Compilations: Assault Melee -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Great Archetype Concept Battle: Final Round -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Archetype Proposal Amalgamation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aethereal Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Zepp said: You can't do claws with Stone Armor I think you can for scrappers/stalkers? Because they don't have granite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvaderStych Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 28 minutes ago, aethereal said: I think you can for scrappers/stalkers? Because they don't have granite? Yup. You see a mousetrap? I see free cheese and a f$%^ing challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zepp Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Oh my, I did not know that... I may have to look into a stoned clawer... Archetype Concept Compilation -- Powerset Concept Compilations: Assault Melee -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Great Archetype Concept Battle: Final Round -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Archetype Proposal Amalgamation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandX Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 5 hours ago, Zepp said: You can't do claws with Stone Armor You can with Scrapper, hence why I said you can't with Brutes and Tankers. I have a Claws/Stone Scrapper was enjoyable 🙂 Mudpots doesn't really slow enemies down, even with slow slotted, so I wouldn't slot for slow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StriderIV Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 9 hours ago, BrandX said: You can with Scrapper, hence why I said you can't with Brutes and Tankers. I have a Claws/Stone Scrapper was enjoyable 🙂 Mudpots doesn't really slow enemies down, even with slow slotted, so I wouldn't slot for slow. Yeah, my hope on /Stone Armor for scrappers was that the mud pots slow would KIND of make up for the lack of a taunt aura 😕 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandX Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 4 hours ago, StriderIV said: Yeah, my hope on /Stone Armor for scrappers was that the mud pots slow would KIND of make up for the lack of a taunt aura 😕 I've come to feel that no slow power seems to really slow an enemy down. At least not the slow powers on DPS. /Martial Blasters have a slow power and enemies don't feel slowed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvaderStych Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 6 hours ago, BrandX said: I've come to feel that no slow power seems to really slow an enemy down. At least not the slow powers on DPS. /Martial Blasters have a slow power and enemies don't feel slowed. Ok. This is interesting to me. Because yeah, the slow in MudPots on a Scrapper is so ineffective that I ran around checking everything in range with PA out of a suspicion it was outright broken. It isn't, it's just ... weak. I tried out an Ice Blast sentinel to see if I could leverage slows. Nope. Not even a little bit. But it's my Fire/Martial blaster with Reaction Time that is the only one that feels effective in slowing enemies, but that is because the debuff on that aura is 70% compared to much lower values in Ice Storm/Blizzard/etc. It probably helps that I run Gravitic on that blaster, which stacks onto the slow. Between that, RoF, and RT, this blaster is better at slow than every Ice character I've tried. Caveat: These are all DPS classes. You see a mousetrap? I see free cheese and a f$%^ing challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erratic1 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Do I recall incorrectly? I remember moving slightly with Mudpots and while foes did not struggle to reposition I would have sworn I noticed a delay in them maneuvering to get to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvaderStych Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Erratic1 said: Do I recall incorrectly? I remember moving slightly with Mudpots and while foes did not struggle to reposition I would have sworn I noticed a delay in them maneuvering to get to me. No, you are mostly correct and I am mostly hyperbolic. 😉 And/Or setting my expectations too high for movement debuffs on dps classes. The effect is there; I just found the overall result (edit: from Mud Pots alone) lackluster. Edited November 21, 2022 by InvaderStych clarity 1 You see a mousetrap? I see free cheese and a f$%^ing challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erratic1 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Just now, InvaderStych said: The effect is there; I just found the overall result lackluster. It is not like dropping Blizzard on a group, but I got to wondering about the defensive gains to be had by periodically repositioning. Maybe if I get back to the character in the future (Elec/Stone brute) I will get a chance to explore the idea more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brasilgringo Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 DB/Stone high recharge was fun.Scrapper_-_Dual_Blades_-_Stone_Armor_snipe.mxd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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