Best Primary/WP Brute?

[Dossantos96]

What is the "best" primary for a brute to pair with WP? And does anyone want to share their WP Brute builds Please

[Meknomancer]

Most will say ss. I hate it so i'll say stone. Took a lot of mine from one of @Spaghetti Bettyolder builds:

 

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STONE WP EARTH: Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Stone Melee
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Earth Mastery

Villain Profile:
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Level 1:    Stone Mallet    
 (A) Superior Brute's Fury - Recharge/Fury Bonus
 (3) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage
 (23) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Recharge
 (25) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (42) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
 (42) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 1:    High Pain Tolerance    
 (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance
 (5) Panacea - Heal
 (5) Panacea - Endurance/Recharge
 (7) Panacea - Heal/Recharge
 (7) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
 (9) Panacea - Heal/Endurance

Level 2:    Mind Over Body    
 (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
 (9) Reactive Armor - Resistance
 (11) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
 (11) Impervious Skin - Resistance/Endurance
 (13) Impervious Skin - Resistance/Recharge

Level 4:    Fast Healing    
 (A) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb
 (13) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime
 (27) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime
 (29) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance
 (29) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance
 (31) Preventive Medicine - Heal

Level 6:    Heavy Mallet    
 (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
 (40) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance
 (40) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
 (42) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
 (43) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
 (43) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge

Level 8:    Build Up    
 (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up

Level 10:    Indomitable Will    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 12:    Kick    
 (A) Empty

Level 14:    Tough    
 (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
 (15) Reactive Armor - Resistance
 (15) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
 (17) Impervious Skin - Resistance/Endurance
 (17) Impervious Skin - Resistance/Recharge

Level 16:    Rise to the Challenge    
 (A) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
 (25) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
 (37) Numina's Convalesence - Heal
 (48) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance
 (48) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Recharge

Level 18:    Seismic Smash    
 (A) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
 (19) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)
 (19) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
 (21) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
 (21) Hecatomb - Recharge/Accuracy
 (27) Superior Entomb - Recharge/Chance for +Absorb

Level 20:    Quick Recovery    
 (A) Synapse's Shock - EndMod/Increased Run Speed
 (46) Synapse's Shock - EndMod
 (46) Power Transfer - Chance to Heal Self
 (48) Power Transfer - EndMod

Level 22:    Weave    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
 (23) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance

Level 24:    Heightened Senses    
 (A) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage
 (31) Reactive Defenses - Defense/RechargeTime
 (31) Reactive Defenses - Endurance/RechargeTime
 (33) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance
 (33) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance/RechargeTime
 (33) Reactive Defenses - Defense

Level 26:    Tremor    
 (A) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage
 (34) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
 (34) Armageddon - Recharge/Accuracy
 (34) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
 (37) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge

Level 28:    Maneuvers    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 30:    Super Speed    
 (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)

Level 32:    Combat Jumping    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
 (43) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)

Level 35:    Stone Prison    
 (A) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
 (36) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/RechargeTime
 (36) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (36) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (37) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime

Level 38:    Fossilize    
 (A) Superior Entomb - Accuracy/Hold
 (39) Superior Entomb - Accuracy/Hold/Endurance/Recharge
 (39) Superior Entomb - Hold/Recharge
 (39) Superior Entomb - Endurance/Recharge
 (40) Superior Entomb - Accuracy/Hold/Endurance

Level 41:    Tactics    
 (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance

Level 44:    Stalagmites    
 (A) Artillery - Accuracy/Damage
 (45) Artillery - Damage/Endurance
 (45) Artillery - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (45) Bombardment - Chance for Fire Damage
 (46) Bombardment - Damage
 (50) Bombardment - Accuracy/Recharge/Endurance

Level 47:    Vengeance    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 49:    Strength of Will    
 (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
 (50) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
 (50) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP

Level 1:    Fury    
Level 1:    Brawl    
 (A) Empty

Level 1:    Sprint    
 (A) Empty

Level 2:    Rest    
 (A) Empty

Level 1:    Swift    
 (A) Empty

Level 1:    Hurdle    
 (A) Empty

Level 1:    Health    
 (A) Miracle - +Recovery

Level 1:    Stamina    
 (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
 (3) Performance Shifter - EndMod

Level 30:    Speed Phase    
Level 50:    Cardiac Core Paragon    
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[Gobbledigook]

I would say a set with some added survival like Crowd control/buffs.

 

Battle Axe, Ice melee, MA, Katana/BS, Staff, stone TW, WM, SS for example. Lots of choices there. Of those i would pick BA or Ice i think, but that is just my choice as all will work.

Edited January 17, 2023 by Gobbledegook

[Spaghetti Betty]

6 hours ago, Meknomancer said:

Most will say ss. I hate it so i'll say stone. Took a lot of mine from one of @Spaghetti Bettyolder builds:

 

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This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.4.7
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

STONE WP EARTH: Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Stone Melee
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Earth Mastery

Villain Profile:
------------
Level 1:    Stone Mallet    
 (A) Superior Brute's Fury - Recharge/Fury Bonus
 (3) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage
 (23) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Recharge
 (25) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (42) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
 (42) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 1:    High Pain Tolerance    
 (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance
 (5) Panacea - Heal
 (5) Panacea - Endurance/Recharge
 (7) Panacea - Heal/Recharge
 (7) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
 (9) Panacea - Heal/Endurance

Level 2:    Mind Over Body    
 (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
 (9) Reactive Armor - Resistance
 (11) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
 (11) Impervious Skin - Resistance/Endurance
 (13) Impervious Skin - Resistance/Recharge

Level 4:    Fast Healing    
 (A) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb
 (13) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime
 (27) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime
 (29) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance
 (29) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance
 (31) Preventive Medicine - Heal

Level 6:    Heavy Mallet    
 (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
 (40) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance
 (40) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
 (42) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
 (43) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
 (43) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge

Level 8:    Build Up    
 (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up

Level 10:    Indomitable Will    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 12:    Kick    
 (A) Empty

Level 14:    Tough    
 (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
 (15) Reactive Armor - Resistance
 (15) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
 (17) Impervious Skin - Resistance/Endurance
 (17) Impervious Skin - Resistance/Recharge

Level 16:    Rise to the Challenge    
 (A) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
 (25) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
 (37) Numina's Convalesence - Heal
 (48) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance
 (48) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Recharge

Level 18:    Seismic Smash    
 (A) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
 (19) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)
 (19) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
 (21) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
 (21) Hecatomb - Recharge/Accuracy
 (27) Superior Entomb - Recharge/Chance for +Absorb

Level 20:    Quick Recovery    
 (A) Synapse's Shock - EndMod/Increased Run Speed
 (46) Synapse's Shock - EndMod
 (46) Power Transfer - Chance to Heal Self
 (48) Power Transfer - EndMod

Level 22:    Weave    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
 (23) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance

Level 24:    Heightened Senses    
 (A) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage
 (31) Reactive Defenses - Defense/RechargeTime
 (31) Reactive Defenses - Endurance/RechargeTime
 (33) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance
 (33) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance/RechargeTime
 (33) Reactive Defenses - Defense

Level 26:    Tremor    
 (A) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage
 (34) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
 (34) Armageddon - Recharge/Accuracy
 (34) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
 (37) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge

Level 28:    Maneuvers    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 30:    Super Speed    
 (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)

Level 32:    Combat Jumping    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
 (43) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)

Level 35:    Stone Prison    
 (A) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
 (36) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/RechargeTime
 (36) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
 (36) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (37) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime

Level 38:    Fossilize    
 (A) Superior Entomb - Accuracy/Hold
 (39) Superior Entomb - Accuracy/Hold/Endurance/Recharge
 (39) Superior Entomb - Hold/Recharge
 (39) Superior Entomb - Endurance/Recharge
 (40) Superior Entomb - Accuracy/Hold/Endurance

Level 41:    Tactics    
 (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance

Level 44:    Stalagmites    
 (A) Artillery - Accuracy/Damage
 (45) Artillery - Damage/Endurance
 (45) Artillery - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
 (45) Bombardment - Chance for Fire Damage
 (46) Bombardment - Damage
 (50) Bombardment - Accuracy/Recharge/Endurance

Level 47:    Vengeance    
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 49:    Strength of Will    
 (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
 (50) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
 (50) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP

Level 1:    Fury    
Level 1:    Brawl    
 (A) Empty

Level 1:    Sprint    
 (A) Empty

Level 2:    Rest    
 (A) Empty

Level 1:    Swift    
 (A) Empty

Level 1:    Hurdle    
 (A) Empty

Level 1:    Health    
 (A) Miracle - +Recovery

Level 1:    Stamina    
 (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
 (3) Performance Shifter - EndMod

Level 30:    Speed Phase    
Level 50:    Cardiac Core Paragon    
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...I posted a /WP Brute somewhere?  Oh man, my attention span is smaller than I thought. I only have an StJ/WP Brute, and it's been due for a respec for awhile now.

 

Either way, pretty much any clicky set is gonna feel better paired WP due to how non-interactive it is. As @Gobbledegook said, my top 3 would be Axe, TW, or Stone, but I also wanna give an honorable mention to Claws.

 

While Claws isn't nearly as strong of a contender on Brutes as it is Scrappers, that doesn't mean it's strengths still don't exist. Lightning fast buzzsaw attacks, 2 great soft CC moves in Focus and Shockwave, and low endurance cost. And with WP you can just activate your toggles and swing all day.

[Gobbledigook]

9 minutes ago, Spaghetti Betty said:

And with WP you can just activate your toggles and swing all day.

 

Swing them toggles...

 

[Lazarillo]

6 hours ago, Meknomancer said:

Most will say ss. I hate it so i'll say stone. Took a lot of mine from one of @Spaghetti Bettyolder builds:

Stone is good, good stuff, especially on a Broot.  But I've played a Stone/WP and I'm not sure it's the best combo for the two because /WP doesn't really shore up Stone/'s lack of AoE very well.

[twozerofoxtrot]

8 hours ago, Dossantos96 said:

What is the "best" primary for a brute to pair with WP?

 

Super Strength 

 

8 hours ago, Meknomancer said:

Most will say ss.

 

Yup.

 

8 hours ago, Dossantos96 said:

does anyone want to share their WP Brute builds Please

 

You're in luck. Not long ago a very dedicated player tested a bunch of melee sets and specifically used WP as the control for the testing. And even posted builds.

 

Click the link to this thread. In the top post click the link to download the Excel spreadsheet. From there, look at the top of the Brute chart and click the link for the Brute SS/WP build.

 

 

[Uun]

13 hours ago, Spaghetti Betty said:

And with WP you can just activate your toggles and swing all day.

Until you can't. WP has no end drain or recovery protection/resistance and Mu Adepts, Sappers, etc. are a real problem. 

[Spaghetti Betty]

3 hours ago, Uun said:

Until you can't. WP has no end drain or recovery protection/resistance and Mu Adepts, Sappers, etc. are a real problem. 

Yes and WP also falls pretty hard to -DEF and -Regen, but this thread is not about what mobs make WP look bad.

[Luminara]

3 hours ago, Uun said:

Until you can't. WP has no end drain or recovery protection/resistance and Mu Adepts, Sappers, etc. are a real problem. 

 

39.23% Energy Defense, 4.95% -ToHit if it's in melee range, 120 Endurance, 5.28 end/s (a Recovery pulse every 1.13s) on my Staff/Willpower... sappers aren't a real problem, they're free XP.  It's the Gunslingers you have to worry about.  Four firing Liquid Nitrogen Rounds will mez you, at which point you lose the benefits of Rise to the Challenge just long enough for the rest of the spawn to use your face as a toilet brush.

[Snarky]

i ran a lot of ss/will brutes on live.  good combo   never really bothered by sappers etc.  i ran it for a year or two....