Consignment House Rant

[Ironblade]

3 hours ago, lemming said:

I know of a gas station in Pocket D that is open for development

 

Manny would be happy to sell.  He hasn't seen a customer in ages.

 

[Major_Decoy]

9 hours ago, Mjolnerd said:

 

Wait, I think I can save this. Turn it into a rant. Or at the very least, a diatribe. Hopefully not a screed, though -- I don't want anybody to get hurt.

Which is to say, I get it, to a point. I've tried reading these mythical guides people keep mentioning, but most of them are so vague and paranoid and secretive as to be almost useless.

 

"How do I get started using the market to make money?"
"There are already guides. Read those."
"I've read several. They all said I should do something called 'converter roulette,' but none of them explained what that is or how to do it."
"Oh, that's because it's explained in other guides."

"I looked at other guides, none of them had any actual useful advice. Like, what kinds of things should I be on the lookout for? What should I convert things into?"
"You'll figure it out."
"Yeah, that's literally what I'm trying to do right now. Can you give me any specific, practical information I can use as a jumping-off point? Please?"
"What? You mean mention a particular recipe or piece of salvage in this context, even just for the purposes of providing an example, instead of just gesturing vaguely toward the market as an overall concept?"

"Kinda, yeah. Not that I expect it to be perfect, I understand we're talking about a living economy that's constantly changing due to any number of different factors, but literally any kind of actual starting point would be really helpful."
"But my niche!"

 

It's like trying to get a mobster to give you a straight answer about how he's able to afford the Mercedes he bought for his wife as an anniversary gift: "I do business. If you know what's good for you, you won't worry about what kind. Capiche?"

It's nice, Socrates, but that's a hypothetical dialogue, not a rant.

[Mjolnerd]

1 hour ago, Major_Decoy said:

It's nice, Socrates, but that's a hypothetical dialogue, not a rant.

Okay, fair enough.

 

But my second post in this thread... that counts, right?

[Sanguinesun]

On 5/23/2023 at 11:26 AM, TekkyFox said:

How do you make trillions of inf?

 

Folks have made lots of good comments and suggestions and thread links to help you but also something of merit to keep in mind.

 

1. Auction House= shift of influence.  It doesn't actually  generate influence  to add to the pool active for players.  It only just moves it from one person to another.  It also is  fractionally an influence sink(ie fees etc (and as was intended too when Cryptic added the system in to the game so many many years ago).  

 

There is just one caveat to all that:  there is some seeding that goes on with the AH to keep it stable but its very minimal in terms of what is seeded.

 

2. General game play, selling things to npc vendors, and or farming missions= influence generating.  These are the methods that bring influence into the game's economy.

 

The two are thus interwoven and dynamic but without point 2, point 1 would not be sustainable with the relative profitability the guides and other suggestions. 

 

So this isn't mentioned to give you some sort of ways to make trillions of influence but to frame how the econ works for those purposes.

[Herotu]

21 hours ago, Yomo Kimyata said:

 

Your post is valid, and worthy of being deemed a philippic.  I'm slowly working on the final guide anyone will ever need on how to get the items you want, but I'm kind of tied up with some other things nowadays and it's pretty comprehensive.  Until then, I think this one is pretty specific and entertaining to read.  It sure was entertaining to write!

 

 

 

I do the crafting thing habitually on a lot of characters these days, instead of playing the game 😞

 

On some of my especially low level characters, and characters on another server, I'm bidding low on insps and selling high, but the demand seems to have disappeared at the moment, so they're all just holding the bag.

 

Is there a sudden lack of farmers or something?

 

 

[SeraphimKensai]

On 5/23/2023 at 3:23 AM, Supertanker said:

Buy low, sell high

Man that explains why I'm always losing money. I've been operating in reverse for years. I need to quit buying high and selling low.

 

Then again I just buy more IOs and DCA, and I'm sure eventually I'll get my average cost back to a reasonable rate to sell for a los...er gain.

[Sanguinesun]

43 minutes ago, Herotu said:

I do the crafting thing habitually on a lot of characters these days, instead of playing the game 😞

 

On some of my especially low level characters, and characters on another server, I'm bidding low on insps and selling high, but the demand seems to have disappeared at the moment, so they're all just holding the bag.

 

Is there a sudden lack of farmers or something?

 

 

 

I'd say less hardmode/4star ITF running is the culprit

[Clave Dark 5]

23 hours ago, Captain Fabulous said:

This is my problem too. I loathe farming and doing market stuff. It feels like work, not fun. And I play games to have fun. Which is why I have a bunch of 50s still sitting with common IOs cause I can't do full IO builds.

Say whaaaaat?  Look, force yourself to keep playing a 50 even with mere SOs, start doing 50 content, get a few Aether Particles, sell and spend.  Do some mothership raids, covert Vanguard merits to Enhancement Catalysts, do that a lot.  You get to slowly slot your one 50, then keep playing them as they keep getting better.  Really, after a bit, that and craft-and-selling recipes that drop (that have obvious market appeal) will get you there.  That's what worked for me.  Pewpewpew!!

 

ETA: forgot one important thing, do lots of Summer Blockbusters, those enhancer sell for like 7 million and SBB is super easy.

Edited May 24 by Clave Dark 5

[momentarygrace]

2 hours ago, Clave Dark 5 said:

Say whaaaaat?  Look, force yourself to keep playing a 50 even with mere SOs, start doing 50 content, get a few Aether Particles, sell and spend.  Do some mothership raids, covert Vanguard merits to Enhancement Catalysts, do that a lot.  You get to slowly slot your one 50, then keep playing them as they keep getting better.  Really, after a bit, that and craft-and-selling recipes that drop (that have obvious market appeal) will get you there.  That's what worked for me.  Pewpewpew!!

 

ETA: forgot one important thing, do lots of Summer Blockbusters, those enhancer sell for like 7 million and SBB is super easy.

 

Where can you convert Vanguard merits to Enhancement Catalysts? 

[dtjunkie]

On 5/22/2023 at 10:26 PM, TekkyFox said:

How do you make trillions of inf?

 

I put in bids for less wanted purple set recipes (let's say a sleep set for example) for exactly 1 influence more than the last 5 sales. Then I would craft those and convert them into a cooler purple set that more people want (let's say a melee dmg set). This would clear at least 5 million each time. Then I repeated this ad nauseam.

[lemming]

3 hours ago, momentarygrace said:

 

Where can you convert Vanguard merits to Enhancement Catalysts? 

Vanguard Merits->Reward Merits->Catalysts    (pretty sure all merit vendors)

[Clave Dark 5]

4 hours ago, lemming said:

Vanguard Merits->Reward Merits->Catalysts    (pretty sure all merit vendors)

Whoops yeah, left out a step; thanks for the recovery.

[tidge]

FWIW: Catalysts aren't exactly hard to come by. At level 50, every character has a chance to get a Catalyst drop once-per-day as part of a regular defeat. The chances of the drop are quite high, I want to say that defeating something like 8 spawns of 8 (*1) should be enough for a Catalyst to drop. Any random tip mission with the spawn size turned up should do the trick, provided the enemies are actually defeated.

 

^{(*1) Crude estimate based on clearing all four of the Kings Row Paladin level-less spawns twice.}

 

A side effect of running (any) level 50 content at high spawn sizes are the common IO recipe drops; on average, the level 50 IO recipes sell to vendors at 100k. Typical AH pieces for useful (non Superior, non PVP) enhancements, run from 2Minf to 6Minf.... (the 6Minf is extreme for things like luck of the Gambler) and if a player is running actual arcs (which includes completing an morality 'capstone' tip) mertis should be rolling in as well.