incarnate powers Spectral Core Interface Immobilize ignored by AVs

[Jacke]

Although the Mag2 Immobilize of the Spectral Core Interface Immobilize Proc shows up in the Power Analyser output, in the 3rd mission of the ITF, both Rommie (Immob Prot of 3) and Requiem (Immob Prot of 0) ignore Spectral Core Internface Immob and keep moving even when their net Immobilize shows as negative red.

 

Both Defender's Traps Web Grenade and Psychic Blast Subdue immobilized the same Rommie and Requiem.

 

Tested last night on Brainstorm by a group of 5 of my guild members.  Motivated by a previous all-Defender/Corruptor ITF in which lack of immobilization of AVs prevented the team from completing it on Everlasting.  Was looking at just swapping in Spectral Core Interface (T4 has a 25% chance to proc a Mag2 Immob for 4.3s base).

[Arc-Mage]

AVs are immune to many things.

[Jacke]

9 hours ago, Arc-Mage said:

AVs are immune to many things.

 

Those immunities to Mez effects show up via the Power Analyzer power, which uses the Combat Attributes window to show their attributes, including Mez Protection.  That's how I know in the ITF Mission 3, for Immobilize Protection, Rommie has 3 and Requiem has 0.

[Burk]

On 7/2/2023 at 9:25 PM, Arc-Mage said:

AVs are immune to many things.

 

The majority of AVs are only semi-immune to most mezzes (gain 50 mag protection for 50s of every 75s) but Immobilize and Sleep are intentional exceptions where they only have the basic 3 mag boss-level protection (not even the 6 mag elite boss protection). There are definitely exceptions like incarnate trial AVs will just have a flat 1000 mag protection to all of them.

 

I suspect the issue here since its happening in ITF is the Shout of Command power cast by the romans. That gives mez protection to nearby allies and definitely could have been applied to the AVs in question.

[Jacke]

On 7/13/2023 at 12:06 AM, Burk said:

The majority of AVs are only semi-immune to most mezzes (gain 50 mag protection for 50s of every 75s) but Immobilize and Sleep are intentional exceptions where they only have the basic 3 mag boss-level protection (not even the 6 mag elite boss protection). There are definitely exceptions like incarnate trial AVs will just have a flat 1000 mag protection to all of them.

 

I suspect the issue here since its happening in ITF is the Shout of Command power cast by the romans. That gives mez protection to nearby allies and definitely could have been applied to the AVs in question.

 

Good points.  However, neither Requiem nor Rommie was getting Shout of Command and in ITF Mission #3 both have base 0 Immob Protection and don't get more from their Purple Triangles.  Rommie has a Shield power (can't remember the name) that gives him Mag3 Immob Protection.

 

It still comes down to these 2 AVs not being affected by Spectral Core Interface Immob procs, as I saw those applied, pushing the total Immob on both of them to Red negative numbers, thus they should have been immobilized, yet both still moved.  Use other Immobs and they get stopped.

Edited July 14, 2023 by Jacke

[Akisan]

IIRC, from my tinkering with Power Analyzer:  It doesn't show the inherent Rank protections.  (Even regular bosses will show 0 Hold protection, but still require 4 Mag of hold). So, Rommie has Mag 6 protection, Requiem has Mag 3 protection. (They're not immobilized until it shows -4 or below on their stat windows, not simply a negative number).

 

I don't know what negative values you were seeing, and it is possible that Spectral's immobililze isn't applying correctly.

[Arc-Mage]

Could Grant Cover from other Cim Traitors be affecting the outcome?

Edited July 17, 2023 by Arc-Mage