seaborndan Posted August 28, 2023 Posted August 28, 2023 I can't remember if I got this from someone here, or fudged around with it myself. I actually took FLY at 14 and HOVER several levels later, but haven't changed the Mids to show it. Is this a decent build? Suggestions? https://www.midsreborn.com/builds/download.php?uc=1816&c=763&a=1526&f=HEX&dc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
Without_Pause Posted August 28, 2023 Posted August 28, 2023 Do you plan on running Swift as you fight? I don't see the need for a HO in it. You have so much end recovery, I would look at moving the basic End Mod from Stamina to something like Sprint so you can get the 2.25% S/L Resist, or maybe some other bonus elsewhere. Even adding the slot to Fast Healing and converting that over to a set might be worth it. Top 10 Most Fun 50s. 1. Without Mercy: Claws/ea Scrapper. 2. Outsmart: Fort 3. Sneakers: Stj/ea Stalker. 4. Emma Strange: Ill/dark Controller. 5. Project Next: Ice/stone Brute. 6. Waterpark: Water/temp Blaster. 6. Mighty Matt: Rad/bio Brute. 7. Without Hesitation: Claws/sr Scrapper. 8. Within Reach: Axe/stone Brute. 9. Without Pause: Claws/wp Brute. 10. Chasing Fireworks: Fire/time Controller. "Downtime is for mortals. Debt is temporary. Fame is forever."
seaborndan Posted August 28, 2023 Author Posted August 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Without_Pause said: Do you plan on running Swift as you fight? I don't see the need for a HO in it. Without_Pause, thank you for looking at my Mids and sharing your input! I have a Blessing of the Zephyr Knockback thing in FLY, and not a flight speed enhancement. Swift takes both fly and running enhancements, so the Hami is there to boost both. Simply guessing at all of it. I was also thinking of replacing the Celerity:Stealth in Sprint to the same Hami, since sprint covers both running and jumping. Then, put the Celerity: Stealth into a Prestige running power, That would free up toon from always being stealthy when running around, to just being stealthy using prestige power when necessary. Again, just guessing. I'll look into moving the End Mod slot to another power! Thank you, again, for your suggestions!
Zect Posted August 28, 2023 Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, seaborndan said: Is this a decent build? No, this build is terrible. You don't skip crushing uppercut; it is the highest DPA attack and potentially +1 purple damage proc because it accepts unbreakable constraint. Skip either the T1 or T2 attack instead. Positional defense sets on a typed defense build* - classic amateur mistake. For example, they slot 5x frozen blasts for 2.5% FC def when they could've just added a 6th blistering cold for 5% FC def. Whoever built this just wasted you 3 slots and >100 million inf in winter IOs. This is basic incompetence by someone who knows diddly squat about build design, brutes, WP, or the invention system. Also - they evidently don't know how to build for EN def (possibly only having experience building positional defense armors). * However, the 4x unbreakable guards are okay because unbreakable guards are not bad anyway for the EN res. If you're already slotting 3x unbreakable, an additional slot for 1.56 SL def is still a good deal. An alternative slotting for resist toggles on typed defense armors is 3-4x reactive armor for 1.5% SL res and 1.25% SLEN def - this too is valuable because EN def is rarer on armored AT's. Splitting up the brutes fury ATIO 3 and 3 is good (most slot-efficient SL def in the game) but not the unrelenting fury. Splitting unrelenting up gives 16% regen twice. Slotting it 6x gives 6% SLENFC res on top of 2.5% SL def. If you have a modicum of common sense, you should be able to identify which option is better. Put 6x unrelenting somewhere else (maybe spinning strike). Remaining slots in the powers that took 3x brutes fury can be filled with procs or left empty - it's acceptable to underslot some weaker powers on brutes since their melee dmg scalar is weak and most damage comes from the fury mechanic. Which clown puts an endredux IO in indom will instead of muling an lotg or something actually useful there, then turns on the FF proc in kick to deceptively make the build look more impressive in mids? Microfilament in swift... Lol. Lmao, even. With one of the slots you saved add a Numina's: heal in health, boosted to +5, for 33.2% regen. If you want to build for regen, this is the way to do it - make sure you get up to the rule of 5 cap on 12% regen bonuses. RTTC, HPT, fast healing et all can all be 1-3 slotted with numinas, boosted to +5 to ED-cap heal enhancement where needed. I don't like to ask people to change epics because it is often a matter of concept and playstyle. However A WP build should not need the endurance from phys perfection unless procbombing which this build is not. If possible, take an epic with good blasts instead or that offer interesting slotting possibilities. Soul with its gloom that has really good DPA and darkest night to cushion hits when they do get through is so much better on top of offering interesting slotting possibilities. As for the regen, even 2x apoc in gloom gives +16% regen. Phys perfection is only 26.6%. And if you must take energy epic, at least get the best power - energy torrent (despite the description, it's knockdown on brutes). This is a quick and dirty illustration of what I mean. Same rech, same SL res, more EN def, more exotic res, more regen, more HP though its not shown in the window, better attacks, two healing procs, -res proc, 1 free power choice, and less wasting 30M or so on vanity IO's in swift. I'm a trillionaire, I just hate waste. Note which IO's are boosted. Shield wall is a PVPIO and can be safely boosted +5 without losing enhancement value when exemplaring. Same with purples. IO's in partially slotted sets and low-level (20-35) IO sets are boosted to increase their enhancement value. And mids crashed when I tried to export, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Think carefully which pieces of each set should be slotted, and come to your own conclusions. Edited August 28, 2023 by Zect
Without_Pause Posted August 28, 2023 Posted August 28, 2023 Heh. I didn't even look at the powers all that much. But yeah, you freaking take CU. Top 10 Most Fun 50s. 1. Without Mercy: Claws/ea Scrapper. 2. Outsmart: Fort 3. Sneakers: Stj/ea Stalker. 4. Emma Strange: Ill/dark Controller. 5. Project Next: Ice/stone Brute. 6. Waterpark: Water/temp Blaster. 6. Mighty Matt: Rad/bio Brute. 7. Without Hesitation: Claws/sr Scrapper. 8. Within Reach: Axe/stone Brute. 9. Without Pause: Claws/wp Brute. 10. Chasing Fireworks: Fire/time Controller. "Downtime is for mortals. Debt is temporary. Fame is forever."
KingCeddd03 Posted May 10 Posted May 10 On 8/28/2023 at 3:00 PM, Zect said: No, this build is terrible. You don't skip crushing uppercut; it is the highest DPA attack and potentially +1 purple damage proc because it accepts unbreakable constraint. Skip either the T1 or T2 attack instead. Positional defense sets on a typed defense build* - classic amateur mistake. For example, they slot 5x frozen blasts for 2.5% FC def when they could've just added a 6th blistering cold for 5% FC def. Whoever built this just wasted you 3 slots and >100 million inf in winter IOs. This is basic incompetence by someone who knows diddly squat about build design, brutes, WP, or the invention system. Also - they evidently don't know how to build for EN def (possibly only having experience building positional defense armors). * However, the 4x unbreakable guards are okay because unbreakable guards are not bad anyway for the EN res. If you're already slotting 3x unbreakable, an additional slot for 1.56 SL def is still a good deal. An alternative slotting for resist toggles on typed defense armors is 3-4x reactive armor for 1.5% SL res and 1.25% SLEN def - this too is valuable because EN def is rarer on armored AT's. Splitting up the brutes fury ATIO 3 and 3 is good (most slot-efficient SL def in the game) but not the unrelenting fury. Splitting unrelenting up gives 16% regen twice. Slotting it 6x gives 6% SLENFC res on top of 2.5% SL def. If you have a modicum of common sense, you should be able to identify which option is better. Put 6x unrelenting somewhere else (maybe spinning strike). Remaining slots in the powers that took 3x brutes fury can be filled with procs or left empty - it's acceptable to underslot some weaker powers on brutes since their melee dmg scalar is weak and most damage comes from the fury mechanic. Which clown puts an endredux IO in indom will instead of muling an lotg or something actually useful there, then turns on the FF proc in kick to deceptively make the build look more impressive in mids? Microfilament in swift... Lol. Lmao, even. With one of the slots you saved add a Numina's: heal in health, boosted to +5, for 33.2% regen. If you want to build for regen, this is the way to do it - make sure you get up to the rule of 5 cap on 12% regen bonuses. RTTC, HPT, fast healing et all can all be 1-3 slotted with numinas, boosted to +5 to ED-cap heal enhancement where needed. I don't like to ask people to change epics because it is often a matter of concept and playstyle. However A WP build should not need the endurance from phys perfection unless procbombing which this build is not. If possible, take an epic with good blasts instead or that offer interesting slotting possibilities. Soul with its gloom that has really good DPA and darkest night to cushion hits when they do get through is so much better on top of offering interesting slotting possibilities. As for the regen, even 2x apoc in gloom gives +16% regen. Phys perfection is only 26.6%. And if you must take energy epic, at least get the best power - energy torrent (despite the description, it's knockdown on brutes). This is a quick and dirty illustration of what I mean. Same rech, same SL res, more EN def, more exotic res, more regen, more HP though its not shown in the window, better attacks, two healing procs, -res proc, 1 free power choice, and less wasting 30M or so on vanity IO's in swift. I'm a trillionaire, I just hate waste. Note which IO's are boosted. Shield wall is a PVPIO and can be safely boosted +5 without losing enhancement value when exemplaring. Same with purples. IO's in partially slotted sets and low-level (20-35) IO sets are boosted to increase their enhancement value. And mids crashed when I tried to export, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Think carefully which pieces of each set should be slotted, and come to your own conclusions. Do you mind modifying the build to show?
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