GenshinGuy1985 Posted February 8 Posted February 8 (edited) Hello! I have been playing a Gravity/Kin Controller and having a ton of fun with it. I am doing sort of a proc build. I joined a PI group and they pumped it to 53 and I noticed I was having a real hard time landing anything. I checked out my build and noticed that I seem to only have about a 45 to 60% chance to hit 53 mobs. I am not sure where else to get the accuracy from. The reason I slotted so many 4 slot LoTGs was to get the accuracy from them. I am trying to avoid using to much purple I don't have very much influence. Thank you! 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 Edited February 8 by GenshinGuy1985
biostem Posted February 8 Posted February 8 I can't bring up your build ATM, but how much Acc are you slotting into your powers, and are you running anything like tactics?
GenshinGuy1985 Posted February 8 Author Posted February 8 See below. Mids doesn't seem to like me and keeps erroring when I try to export the HTML. With 5 slotted Tactics it says I have 15.66% To Hit and 60% Accuracy slotted. Level 1: Lift Slot Level 1: Force Feedback: Chance for +Recharge Slot Level 11: Gladiator's Javelin: Chance of Damage(Toxic) Slot Level 11: Explosive Strike: Chance for Smashing Damage Slot Level 13: Gladiator's Javelin: Accuracy/Damage Slot Level 13: Apocalypse: Chance of Damage(Negative) Level 1: Transfusion Slot Level 1: Preventive Medicine: Chance for +Absorb Slot Level 3: Preventive Medicine: Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance Slot Level 3: Preventive Medicine: Heal/RechargeTime Slot Level 5: Preventive Medicine: Endurance/RechargeTime Slot Level 7: Preventive Medicine: Heal/Endurance Slot Level 7: Preventive Medicine: Heal Level 2: Gravity Distortion Slot Level 2: Ghost Widow's Embrace: Chance of Damage(Psionic) Slot Level 25: Gladiator's Javelin: Accuracy/Damage Slot Level 25: Neuronic Shutdown: Chance of Damage(Psionic) Slot Level 27: Gladiator's Net: Chance of Damage(Lethal) Slot Level 27: Impeded Swiftness: Chance of Damage(Smashing) Slot Level 29: Gladiator's Javelin: Chance of Damage(Toxic) Level 4: Hasten Slot Level 4: Invention: Recharge Reduction Slot Level 5: Invention: Recharge Reduction Level 6: Propel Slot Level 6: Force Feedback: Chance for +Recharge Slot Level 29: Decimation: Chance of Build Up Slot Level 31: Decimation: Accuracy/Damage Slot Level 31: Decimation: Damage/Endurance Slot Level 33: Decimation: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Slot Level 33: Decimation: Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge Level 8: Crushing Field Slot Level 8: Trap of the Hunter: Chance of Damage(Lethal) Slot Level 33: Bombardment: Chance for Fire Damage Slot Level 34: Positron's Blast: Chance of Damage(Energy) Slot Level 34: Superior Overpowering Presence: Accuracy/Control Duration Slot Level 34: Impeded Swiftness: Chance of Damage(Smashing) Slot Level 36: Superior Overpowering Presence: RechargeTime/Energy Font Level 12: Dimension Shift Slot Level 12: Superior Will of the Controller: Recharge/Chance for Psionic Damage Slot Level 36: Superior Will of the Controller: Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance/Recharge Slot Level 37: Superior Will of the Controller: Accuracy/Control Duration Slot Level 37: Superior Will of the Controller: Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance Slot Level 37: Superior Will of the Controller: Control Duration/Recharge Level 14: Tough Slot Level 14: Gladiator's Armor: TP Protection +3% Def (All) Slot Level 15: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime Slot Level 15: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance Slot Level 21: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance/Endurance Slot Level 21: Unbreakable Guard: RechargeTime/Resistance Level 16: Weave Slot Level 16: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Slot Level 17: Luck of the Gambler: Defense Slot Level 17: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Endurance Slot Level 19: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Recharge Level 18: Siphon Speed Slot Level 18: Invention: Accuracy Level 20: Speed Boost Slot Level 20: Blessing of the Zephyr: Knockback Reduction (4 points) Level 22: Maneuvers Slot Level 22: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Slot Level 23: Luck of the Gambler: Defense Slot Level 23: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Endurance Slot Level 43: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Recharge Level 24: Combat Jumping Slot Level 24: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Slot Level 45: Luck of the Gambler: Defense Slot Level 45: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Endurance Slot Level 46: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Recharge Level 26: Wormhole Slot Level 26: Sudden Acceleration: Knockback to Knockdown Slot Level 39: Stupefy: Stun/Range Slot Level 40: Force Feedback: Chance for +Recharge Slot Level 46: Absolute Amazement: Chance for ToHit Debuff Level 28: Inertial Reduction Slot Level 28: Blessing of the Zephyr: Knockback Reduction (4 points) Level 30: Tactics Slot Level 30: Adjusted Targeting: To Hit Buff/Endurance Slot Level 31: Adjusted Targeting: To Hit Buff Slot Level 36: Adjusted Targeting: To Hit Buff/Recharge Slot Level 39: Adjusted Targeting: To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge Slot Level 40: Adjusted Targeting: Endurance/Recharge Level 32: Singularity Slot Level 32: Expedient Reinforcement: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge Slot Level 43: Expedient Reinforcement: Accuracy/Damage Slot Level 46: Expedient Reinforcement: Accuracy/Recharge Slot Level 48: Sudden Acceleration: Knockback to Knockdown Slot Level 48: Expedient Reinforcement: Resist Bonus Aura for Pets Level 35: Transference Slot Level 35: Invention: Accuracy Level 38: Indomitable Will Slot Level 38: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Slot Level 39: Invention: Recharge Reduction Slot Level 40: Invention: Recharge Reduction Level 41: Mind Over Body Slot Level 41: Unbreakable Guard: +Max HP Slot Level 42: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime Slot Level 42: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance Slot Level 43: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance/Endurance Slot Level 47: Steadfast Protection: Resistance/+Def 3% Level 44: Psionic Tornado Slot Level 44: Force Feedback: Chance for +Recharge Slot Level 45: Positron's Blast: Chance of Damage(Energy) Slot Level 48: Positron's Blast: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance Slot Level 49: Positron's Blast: Accuracy/Damage Slot Level 49: Positron's Blast: Damage/Endurance Slot Level 50: Positron's Blast: Damage/Recharge Level 47: Fulcrum Shift Slot Level 47: Invention: Recharge Reduction Level 49: Vengeance Slot Level 49: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Slot Level 50: Kismet: Accuracy +6% Slot Level 50: Shield Wall: +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) Inherent Powers Sprint: Slot Level 1: Celerity: +Stealth Swift: Slot Level 2: Invention: Run Speed Hurdle: Slot Level 2: Invention: Jumping Health: Slot Level 2: Panacea: +Hit Points/Endurance Stamina: Slot Level 2: Performance Shifter: Chance for +End Slot Level 9: Performance Shifter: EndMod
Uun Posted February 8 Posted February 8 In Mid's, there's an option in the menu bar to change the enemy relative level. Set that to +3 or +4 and then look at the accuracy in each power. It seems to me like you should be OK, with the possible exception of Crushing Field and Wormhole. Uuniverse
Duckbutler Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Punching up against +4 sucks, but with tactics running and accuracy slotted it shouldn't be terrible. I've been crunching numbers and trying to get a good handle on fundamental game mechanics. See the data table here on this link: https://homecoming.wiki/wiki/Attack_Mechanics#Data_Tables (39+15)*1.6=86.4. Maybe there was something else going on like debuffs on you or buffs on the mobs?
SeraphimKensai Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Make sure to slot a kismet proc into a defense power. And if your having difficulty hitting with a power that you have loaded to the gills with procs, maybe take one out and stick a Nucleus in there or such. Also do you have the Alpha slot level shift? Otherwise you can also take an alpha or hybrid that boosts your accuracy if you need.
GenshinGuy1985 Posted February 8 Author Posted February 8 I do have the Kismet 6% accuracy. Question, if you get the alpha level shift does that reflect in terms of mob level? Like a 50 fighting 53s needs a certain amount of accuracy to hit the 95%. If you are 50(+1) vs a 53 does that change the requirement? I went on the test server and tried out grabbing the 33% accuracy alpha and it helped. I was still missing a bit, but no where near as bad.
Duckbutler Posted February 8 Posted February 8 Yeah, base hit chance changes based on the difference between you and your target. Check that table I linked. The base hit chance for the 50 attacking the 53 should be 48%. A 50+1 attacking a 53 should be 56% base hit chance, and that's part of why the level shift is so good. Your To-Hit buff from tactics gets directly added to that, then the total gets multiplied by accuracy. Without any to-hit modifiers or defense on the mob you're attacking, you would need roughly 1.69x accuracy to get a 95% hit chance from a base 56%. You can divide 95 by your to-hit to get an accuracy target number.
Doomguide2005 Posted February 9 Posted February 9 @GenshinGuy1985 Kismet needs to be moved from Vengeance. Most likely it's rarely effecting you as it's considered a proc 120. It's only benefitting you when the power is active and for a 120 seconds after the power is no longer active or the power is toggled off. So unless you are using Vengeance every 120 seconds or less there are probably lengthy periods where you gain no benefit. In general if your To Hit portion is low raising your To Hit will be of greater benefit than boosting Accuracy further (multiplying a relatively lower value yields a relatively smaller value). Try to get Kismet in a lower level choice. Weave is your lowest placed defensive power. For instance if Vengeance was a toggle you'd still only benefit when playing at or above 43rd when it could be toggled on and active. Multiplying 39+15+6=60 >> 60 x 1.6 = 96% or at that to hit Kismet jumps you from ~86% to 96% and is therefore the single best thing you can do to help your overall hit chance. You are sitting right about the tipping point between hitting 95% and noticeably worse if foes start to to hit debuff you or acquire defense buffs for themselves. Clumped up Cimerorans will become a major issue, for example, as they start buffing each others defense
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