Fold Space behaving unpredictably

[schrodingercat]

I have noticed Fold Space sometimes pulls everything, and sometimes pulls 1 or 0 mobs out of the pack I have targeted. I am testing this behavior as a level 39 on level 22 mobs in talos. I have fold space slotted 2 Level 30 accuracy IOs + 2 Level 30 recharge reduction IOs. It shows the power as having an accuracy of 1.70. I have no outside buffs or debuffs, and I am not running tactics. I have Kismet +6% accuracy slotted.

 

The game shows my current to-hit bonus as 81.7% and accuracy is 1.00.

 

I have attempted to use fold space on the same 10 Talos Warriors (level 22) 5 times. Out of those 5 times, the first time pulled one minion. times 2, 3, 4 pulled zero minions. The 5th time pulled all the minions. I am standing right next to them with no obstructions, and I haven't moved from the initial testing spot.

 

I flew around for a bit and tested it on level 15-25 mobs with no issues in Boomtown.

 

Then I went to Terra volta, worked fine on some 23 sky raiders. Finally, I tested it on level 27 Lost. This time, after it failed, I made sure to try a different target each time to see if that mattered. I was the same distance as I am from before, but with no little wall between me and the Lost. I tried to use Fold Space on them 7 times without succeeding on any try to get any mobs.

 

When it fails, there is no MISS over the npcs to indicate i failed a hit check, and there is no aggro generated. There is no text in the log about hit checks on npcs when this happens.

 

I relogged to a different character, and logged back. Now I get combat log messages and the power works as expected.

 

Switched maps, it went right back to the old behavior!

 

 

[Luminara]

It's a PBAoE, not a targeted AoE.

[lemming]

Check your combat logs to see what is pulled.   And it is a PBAOE, so targetting isn't going to do anything.

 

100' range with a chance of up to 16 targets.

[schrodingercat]

13 minutes ago, lemming said:

Check your combat logs to see what is pulled.   And it is a PBAOE, so targetting isn't going to do anything.

 

100' range with a chance of up to 16 targets.

 

The combat log has nothing listed when this happens. Successful pulls do show hit/miss checks.

[Luminara]

10 minutes ago, schrodingercat said:

The combat log has nothing listed when this happens.

 

Because there was nothing to record.

 

 

This is the parking lot where you took that screenshot, with a thumbtack at the location where you were targeting a spawn and my character standing where yours was.  39 yards is 117'.  117' is 17' outside of the radius of the power.  Since all of those guys more than 100' away from you, no hit rolls were made and the power didn't try to teleport them.

 

You're the center of the AoE.  That means all enemies you want to try to teleport have to be within 100' of you.

[lemming]

12 minutes ago, schrodingercat said:

The combat log has nothing listed when this happens. Successful pulls do show hit/miss checks.

Probably means they were out of range. Did this in Perez and made sure I had three groups at less than 100'

 

2024-03-03 14:24:07 You activated the Fold Space power.
2024-03-03 14:24:08 HIT Blood Brother Slammer! Your Fold Space power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 33.29.
2024-03-03 14:24:08 HIT Blood Brother Slugger! Your Fold Space power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 79.00.
2024-03-03 14:24:08 HIT Blood Brother Chopper! Your Fold Space power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 20.73.
2024-03-03 14:24:08 HIT Girlfriend From Hell! Your Fold Space power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 32.58.
2024-03-03 14:24:08 HIT Blood Brother Slammer! Your Fold Space power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 74.73.
2024-03-03 14:24:08 HIT Cold Demonling! Your Fold Space power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 29.89.
2024-03-03 14:24:08 HIT Blood Brother Chopper! Your Fold Space power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 13.40.
2024-03-03 14:24:08 HIT Blood Brother Chopper! Your Fold Space power was forced to hit by streakbreaker.
2024-03-03 14:24:08 HIT Blood Brother Slicer! Your Fold Space power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 13.64.
2024-03-03 14:24:08 HIT Blood Brother Slicer! Your Fold Space power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 22.14.
2024-03-03 14:24:08 Fold Space missed!
2024-03-03 14:24:08 MISSED Blood Brother Brawler!! Your Fold Space power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 98.13.
2024-03-03 14:24:08 HIT Blood Brother Slugger! Your Fold Space power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 5.46.
2024-03-03 14:24:08 HIT Fiery Demonling! Your Fold Space power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 5.19.
2024-03-03 14:24:08 HIT Blood Brother Slammer! Your Fold Space power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 43.96.
2024-03-03 14:24:08 HIT Blood Brother Slugger! Your Fold Space power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 42.34.
2024-03-03 14:24:08 HIT Blood Brother Brawler! Your Fold Space power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 18.41.
2024-03-03 14:24:08 HIT Blood Brother Brawler! Your Fold Space power had a 95.00% chance to hit, you rolled a 64.61.
2024-03-03 14:24:10 You Teleport Blood Brother Slicer into melee range.
2024-03-03 14:24:10 You Teleport Blood Brother Chopper into melee range.
2024-03-03 14:24:10 You Teleport Blood Brother Slammer into melee range.
2024-03-03 14:24:10 You Teleport Blood Brother Slugger into melee range.
2024-03-03 14:24:10 You Teleport Blood Brother Chopper into melee range.
2024-03-03 14:24:10 You Teleport Blood Brother Slicer into melee range.
2024-03-03 14:24:10 You Teleport Blood Brother Chopper into melee range.
2024-03-03 14:24:10 You Teleport Girlfriend From Hell into melee range.
2024-03-03 14:24:10 You Teleport Blood Brother Brawler into melee range.
2024-03-03 14:24:10 You Teleport Blood Brother Slammer into melee range.
2024-03-03 14:24:10 You Teleport Blood Brother Slugger into melee range.
2024-03-03 14:24:10 You Teleport Blood Brother Slugger into melee range.
2024-03-03 14:24:10 You Teleport Blood Brother Slammer into melee range.
2024-03-03 14:24:10 You Teleport Blood Brother Brawler into melee range.
2024-03-03 14:24:10 You Teleport Fiery Demonling into melee range.
2024-03-03 14:24:10 You Teleport Cold Demonling into melee range.

Does look like it will try porting everyone within 100' until it hits 16.  (Note the one miss, but I still teleported 16)

[schrodingercat]

19 hours ago, Luminara said:

 

Because there was nothing to record.

 

 

This is the parking lot where you took that screenshot, with a thumbtack at the location where you were targeting a spawn and my character standing where yours was.  39 yards is 117'.  117' is 17' outside of the radius of the power.  Since all of those guys more than 100' away from you, no hit rolls were made and the power didn't try to teleport them.

 

You're the center of the AoE.  That means all enemies you want to try to teleport have to be within 100' of you.

 

Hey! thank you for this. Perhaps it would be helpful if I had a targeting circle or something that turned red when I was too far. I don't know how far that is in game intuitively. I still have to inch forward to get in sniper range 🙂

 

Also we need to group again, I had fun grouping with you!

[Luminara]

2 minutes ago, schrodingercat said:

Hey! thank you for this. Perhaps it would be helpful if I had a targeting circle or something that turned red when I was too far. I don't know how far that is in game intuitively. I still have to inch forward to get in sniper range

 

Type /targetdistance 1 in the chat box, hit Enter.  That will add a number to the top of the Target window, telling you how far away the targeted enemy is.

 

To use it with Fold Space, for example, you'd want to target the enemy at the far side of the spawn that you want to teleport, and move toward that spawn until the number at the top of the Target window was 99 or less.

 

3 minutes ago, schrodingercat said:

Also we need to group again, I had fun grouping with you!

 

You're confusing me with someone else.  I don't team.

[lemming]

3 hours ago, Luminara said:

 

Type /targetdistance 1 in the chat box, hit Enter.  That will add a number to the top of the Target window, telling you how far away the targeted enemy is.

 

To use it with Fold Space, for example, you'd want to target the enemy at the far side of the spawn that you want to teleport, and move toward that spawn until the number at the top of the Target window was 99 or less.

 

 

You're confusing me with someone else.  I don't team.

Thanks Luminara for saying what I was going to. 

 

On the teaming thing, may have been supposed to be directed at me since one of my characters is Schrodinger's Kitty?