New Slow IO set

[Uun]

There are currently 5 Slow IO sets, 2 for levels 10-30 and 3 for levels 20-50. The 4 original sets all follow the same template: acc/slow, dmg/slow, acc/end, range/slow, end/rech/slow, proc (or acc/dmg/slow). This results in a 5-piece total of 53.0% acc, 100.7% slow, 47.7% end, 26.5% range, 26.5% dmg and 26.5% rech (the 6-piece total for the set without a proc is 74.2% acc, 121.9% slow, 47.7% end, 26.5% range, 47.7% dmg and 26.5% rech). 

 

More recently the HC devs added Ice Mistral's Torment: slow/end, dmg/rech, dmg/slow, acc/dmg/end, acc/dmg/end/rech, proc. This results in a 5-piece total of 39.75% acc, 53.0% slow, 66.25% end, 92.75% dmg, 45.05% rech. This is quite useful for damaging powers that also slow.

 

There are a significant number of non-damaging slow powers for which the damage enhancements are wasted. The 4 original sets are also sorely lacking in recharge. Using the Accurate Defense Debuff and Accurate ToHit Debuff sets as a template, I propose a new Slow IO set comprised of slow, acc/slow, acc/rech, slow/end/rech, acc/end/rech, proc. This would result in a 5-piece total of 74.2% acc, 90.1% slow, 42.4% end, 68.9% rech.

 

	Accuracy	Slow	End	Range	Damage	Recharge
Pacing of the Turtle	53.00%	100.70%	47.70%	26.50%	26.50%	21.20%
Tempered Readiness	74.20%	121.90%	47.70%	26.50%	47.70%	21.20%
Ice Mistral's Torment	39.75%	53.00%	66.25%	0.00%	92.75%	45.05%
Proposed	74.20%	90.10%	42.40%	0.00%	0.00%	68.90%

 

Note, this is purely about enhancement values and I'm not making specific proposals for what the proc or set bonuses would be. 

[Saiyajinzoningen]

tbh id rather see a generic io set for all those powers that accept nothing else

here are some examples

 

phase shift

Assault

Acrobatics

Burnout

Fold space

lightning reflexes

quickness

 

I'm sure there are other powers that don't accept set IO's but that is just off the top of my head

Slow already has more sets than To-hit buffs, threat, or fear.

Can we spread the love?

[Uun]

1 hour ago, Saiyajinzoningen said:

tbh id rather see a generic io set for all those powers that accept nothing else

I don't see the suggestions as mutually exclusive, however, these powers don't accept IO sets as they only have 1 or 2 attributes that can be enhanced. If a power can only be enhanced for recharge or end reduction, what would be the point of an IO set? 

 

1 hour ago, Saiyajinzoningen said:

Slow already has more sets than To-hit buffs, threat, or fear.

Can we spread the love?

Again, this isn't a zero-sum situation. If you have proposals for new IO sets in those categories, put them out there.

[ninja surprise]

6 hours ago, Uun said:

Proposed 74.20% 90.10% 42.40% 0.00% 0.00% 68.90

 

I like this, but would also be happy to see some of the Acc moved to Rech to get it up into the 90's.

[Vanden]

8 hours ago, Uun said:

Note, this is purely about enhancement values and I'm not making specific proposals for what the proc or set bonuses would be. 

 

Why not? Go ahead and make a proposal. Live a little!

 

I will point out that Range enhancements are Schedule B, so your chart there is giving them higher values than they actually have at level 50. (They're actually 15.94% for a dual-aspect IO.)

[macskull]

4 hours ago, Saiyajinzoningen said:

tbh id rather see a generic io set for all those powers that accept nothing else

here are some examples

 

phase shift

Assault

Acrobatics

Burnout

Fold space

lightning reflexes

quickness

 

I'm sure there are other powers that don't accept set IO's but that is just off the top of my head

Slow already has more sets than To-hit buffs, threat, or fear.

Can we spread the love?

Some of the powers in your list don't accept enhancement sets because there's literally nothing to enhance. What enhancement types would Phase Shift, Assault, and Burnout even take?

[Vanden]

3 minutes ago, macskull said:

Some of the powers in your list don't accept enhancement sets because there's literally nothing to enhance. What enhancement types would Phase Shift, Assault, and Burnout even take?

 

[macskull]

I would proceed to completely ignore a set with bonuses like that, especially in powers that are appealing now because they do things well with only one or two slots.

[Vanden]

Just now, macskull said:

I would proceed to completely ignore a set with bonuses like that, especially in powers that are appealing now because they do things well with only one or two slots.

 

You wouldn't even get an attuned end cost or recharge IO to slot at early levels and then not have to worry about until 50?

[macskull]

9 minutes ago, Vanden said:

 

You wouldn't even get an attuned end cost or recharge IO to slot at early levels and then not have to worry about until 50?

No, because IO enhancement values below level 27 are pretty terrible. If I'm leveling something the old-fashioned way and not doing the "go straight to AE and do not leave until 50 and incarnates unlocked" route I'm using SOs until 27ish when I can slot level 30 IOs, unless it's a global or proc and then I'll slot it as soon as I can.

 

Is slotting attuned set enhancements at the level the set opens up probably cheaper than doing it that way? Yeah. Is it optimal? Nope.

Edited April 6 by macskull

[Vanden]

14 minutes ago, macskull said:

No, because IO enhancement values below level 27 are pretty terrible. If I'm leveling something the old-fashioned way and not doing the "go straight to AE and do not leave until 50 and incarnates unlocked" route I'm using SOs until 27ish when I can slot level 30 IOs, unless it's a global or proc and then I'll slot it as soon as I can.

 

Is slotting attuned set enhancements at the level the set opens up probably cheaper than doing it that way? Yeah. Is it optimal? Nope.

 

Well, different strokes. I personally love the convenience of putting an attuned Adjusted Targeting Recharge in Build Up/Aim at 18 and then never worrying about it again until 47, and wish it were possible to do something similar on, like, literally any other kind of power. Doesn't bother me if I clear missions 2.5% slower or something.

[wjrasmussen]

If I made a slow IO set, I would include some kind of haste boosting mechanism...