Trike Posted July 21 Posted July 21 I’m picturing animations that borrow from Dual Blades, Katana and the Red Caps. Some attacks will be with one knife, some with two, some with multiples (the thrown cone, which is fun to say). Brute/Scrapper Slash 1 Single Knife Melee, Minor Damage (Lethal) Slice 1 Single Knife Melee, Moderate Damage(Lethal) Stab 2 Dual Knives Melee, Moderate Damage (Lethal), Foe -Defense Throwing Knives 6 Multiple Knives Ranged (Cone), Moderate Damage (Lethal), Foe Knockdown Poisoned Blade 8 Single Knife Melee, DOT Moderate Damage (Lethal, Poison), Foe -Recharge Taunt 12 Ranged (AoE), Foe Taunt Bleeding Edge 18 Dual Knives Melee, Moderate Damage (Lethal), Foe Slow, Foe -Defense Thrown Poison 22 Multiple Knives Ranged (Cone), DOT Superior Damage (Lethal, Poison) Whirling Bladestrike 26 Dual Knives Melee (Cone), Superior Damage (Lethal) Tanker Slash 1 Single Knife Melee, Minor Damage (Lethal) Slice 1 Single Knife Melee, Moderate Damage (Lethal) Stab 4 Dual Knives Melee, Moderate Damage (Lethal), Foe -Defense Taunt 10 Ranged (AoE), Foe Taunt Poisoned Blade 16 Single Knife Melee, DOT Moderate Damage (Lethal, Poison), Foe -Recharge Throwing Knives 20 Multiple Knives Ranged (Cone), Moderate Damage (Lethal), Foe Knockdown Bleeding Edge 24 Dual Knives Melee, Moderate Damage (Lethal), Foe Slow, Foe -Defense Thrown Poison 28 Multiple Knives Ranged (Cone), DOT Superior Damage (Lethal, Poison) Whirling Bladestrike 30 Dual Knives Melee (Cone), Superior Damage (Lethal) Stalker Slash 1 Single Knife Melee, Minor Damage (Lethal) Slice 1 Single Knife Melee, Moderate Damage(Lethal) Stab 2 Dual Knives Melee, Moderate Damage (Lethal), Foe -Defense Assassin’s Strike 6 Dual Knives Melee, Moderate Damage +Special Build Up 8 Self +Damage +To-Hit Placate 12 Ranged, Foe Placate Bleeding Edge 18 Dual Knives Melee, Moderate Damage (Lethal), Foe Slow, Foe -Defense Thrown Poison 22 Multiple Knives Ranged (Cone), DOT Superior Damage (Lethal, Poison), Foe Knockdown Whirling Bladestrike 26 Dual Knives Melee (Cone), Superior Damage (Lethal) 1 2 1 1
Techwright Posted July 22 Posted July 22 I'm not opposed to this, so long as we don't get another milquetoast powerset. That said, I suspect the number of Joker license violations will go through the roof. I might have to reserve a spot for a Hobbit stalker if this set ever gets announced. It would be my homage to Lord of the Rings Online, just like my dwarf warrior homage to WoW. 1
Triumphant Posted July 22 Posted July 22 1 hour ago, Techwright said: I'm not opposed to this, so long as we don't get another milquetoast powerset. That said, I suspect the number of Joker license violations will go through the roof. I might have to reserve a spot for a Hobbit stalker if this set ever gets announced. It would be my homage to Lord of the Rings Online, just like my dwarf warrior homage to WoW. Nor am I, though I would add that I would like to see current powersets that need balancing addressed before the devs embark upon adding another completely new set to the game. Every time they do this and kinetic melee and Regeneration remain untouched, it makes me clench my teeth in frustration. I get it though. Creating something new is surely more creatively stimulating, you have more power over it, and it's (perhaps) less fraught with the possibility of triggering the player base, since you aren't futzing with a previously established thing that players are already using. Still... kinetic melee... regeneration... please. Give 'em a little love, would ya? 🙏 1 1 1
Webmaxx3 Posted July 24 Posted July 24 On 7/21/2024 at 6:56 AM, Trike said: I’m picturing animations that borrow from Dual Blades, Katana and the Red Caps. Some attacks will be with one knife, some with two, some with multiples (the thrown cone, which is fun to say). Brute/Scrapper Slash 1 Single Knife Melee, Minor Damage (Lethal) Slice 1 Single Knife Melee, Moderate Damage(Lethal) Stab 2 Dual Knives Melee, Moderate Damage (Lethal), Foe -Defense Throwing Knives 6 Multiple Knives Ranged (Cone), Moderate Damage (Lethal), Foe Knockdown Poisoned Blade 8 Single Knife Melee, DOT Moderate Damage (Lethal, Poison), Foe -Recharge Taunt 12 Ranged (AoE), Foe Taunt Bleeding Edge 18 Dual Knives Melee, Moderate Damage (Lethal), Foe Slow, Foe -Defense Thrown Poison 22 Multiple Knives Ranged (Cone), DOT Superior Damage (Lethal, Poison) Whirling Bladestrike 26 Dual Knives Melee (Cone), Superior Damage (Lethal) Tanker Slash 1 Single Knife Melee, Minor Damage (Lethal) Slice 1 Single Knife Melee, Moderate Damage (Lethal) Stab 4 Dual Knives Melee, Moderate Damage (Lethal), Foe -Defense Taunt 10 Ranged (AoE), Foe Taunt Poisoned Blade 16 Single Knife Melee, DOT Moderate Damage (Lethal, Poison), Foe -Recharge Throwing Knives 20 Multiple Knives Ranged (Cone), Moderate Damage (Lethal), Foe Knockdown Bleeding Edge 24 Dual Knives Melee, Moderate Damage (Lethal), Foe Slow, Foe -Defense Thrown Poison 28 Multiple Knives Ranged (Cone), DOT Superior Damage (Lethal, Poison) Whirling Bladestrike 30 Dual Knives Melee (Cone), Superior Damage (Lethal) Stalker Slash 1 Single Knife Melee, Minor Damage (Lethal) Slice 1 Single Knife Melee, Moderate Damage(Lethal) Stab 2 Dual Knives Melee, Moderate Damage (Lethal), Foe -Defense Assassin’s Strike 6 Dual Knives Melee, Moderate Damage +Special Build Up 8 Self +Damage +To-Hit Placate 12 Ranged, Foe Placate Bleeding Edge 18 Dual Knives Melee, Moderate Damage (Lethal), Foe Slow, Foe -Defense Thrown Poison 22 Multiple Knives Ranged (Cone), DOT Superior Damage (Lethal, Poison), Foe Knockdown Whirling Bladestrike 26 Dual Knives Melee (Cone), Superior Damage (Lethal) We have dual wield and you can use the costume pieces to get knives. 1 1
FDR's Think Tank Posted August 24 Posted August 24 Aside from the fact that current bladed sets can, essentially, be used for melee dagger builds... They could also just make scrapper claws into Claws/Knives if you're just looking for a melee set. Or Spines could be Spines/Poisoned Blades. Then it's just a matter of giving an option on either of those sets to Hide Claws/Hide Spines and allow the character model to choose the knives set they want to wield. Personally, if they are going to really make a new Powerset for Knives, I would prefer it be a Ranged Set (Blaster, Sentinel, Defender, Corruptor) with a flavor of shorter ranges, similar to dual Pistols... but with a focus on combo attacks, like some of the Combo-Melee Sets. The other possibility is making throwing Knives have a 3 split like Dual Pistols of "Ammo type" which change how the blades function. The specialized options could be: "Featherlight" - Boosts range/reduces cooldown, but at the cost of raw damage. "Explosive" - Attacks damage adjacent enemies to target, can do knockdown, but increases cooldown time. "Poisoned Edge" - Attacks deal DoT and reduce target's resistance, but at a cost of maximum range. The advantage of doing Knives/Blades as a Ranged Set over a melee Set is multifold: 1.) This adds mechanics to Powersets that currently aren't represented in Ranged Powersets. 2.) A Throwing Knives Powerset can also contain Ninja Stars, Boomerangs, Darts, and other thrown weapons. It really kicks the door open for a variety of ranged martial arts. 3.) You aren't conflicting with existing Melee Powersets or retreading ground that's already been mostly covered. 1 1
megaericzero Posted August 27 Posted August 27 On 8/24/2024 at 4:12 PM, FDR's Think Tank said: Personally, if they are going to really make a new Powerset for Knives, I would prefer it be a Ranged Set (Blaster, Sentinel, Defender, Corruptor) 2 hours ago, TheMoneyMaker said: Knives blaster, corruptor and defender also FWIW: 1 1
FDR's Think Tank Posted August 28 Posted August 28 16 hours ago, kelika2 said: dom or bust Dominator reallly would work well with a combo of melee and ranged knives. Other bladed weapons for this catagory of throwing blades could include tomahawks, mini chainsaws, bladed throwing cards, and bladed rings. There really are so many possibilities. 1 1
Trike Posted August 30 Author Posted August 30 My basic idea for a knife set was to make a combo melee/ranged unlike other sets. Adding knives as a secondary to Blasters etc. similar to Ninjitsu is a bonus. Knives are thematically perfectly suited for melee/range, unlike other weapons with the exception of throwing axes/tomahawks. Melee/ranged: Mostly melee but also as Blaster secondary:
kelika2 Posted August 30 Posted August 30 would also be a good chance to do a ranged followup for ranged classes
Shin Magmus Posted August 30 Posted August 30 It's a knife idea, I like the cut of your jib. Treating everyone fairly is great; unfair discrimination is badwrong! I do not believe the false notion that "your ignorance is just as good as my knowledge." The Definitive Empathy Rework
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