BrandX Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Erratic1 said: Spider Man was originally in the 10 ton strength class but is currently considered to be in the 25 ton strength class (as a result of Mephisto altering reality). And in the MCU, I believe the math has shown he's past 25tons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanden Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 15 minutes ago, Without_Pause said: StJ can put up numbers. It certainly can for stalkers. That's because Street Justice is way better on Stalkers than on any other AT, to an almost comical degree. A Cheat Sheet for efficient Endurance Recovery slotting Invention Set Designer Tool Spreadsheet with every Ancillary Power Pool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erratic1 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just now, BrandX said: And in the MCU, I believe the math has shown he's past 25tons. Yes. MCU he is able to make Thanos, who is officially Strength Class 100, struggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandX Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Erratic1 said: Yes. MCU he is able to make Thanos, who is officially Strength Class 100, struggle. Spider-Man = 3000 ton range in the mcu. Edited December 31, 2020 by BrandX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erratic1 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 minute ago, BrandX said: 3000 ton range in the mcu. Was referring to what Thanos is ranked at in the comics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandX Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just now, Erratic1 said: Was referring to what Thanos is ranked at in the comics. I know. I was just stating Spider-Man's as well. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erratic1 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just now, BrandX said: I know. I was just stating Spider-Man's as well. 🙂 Gotcha! And a thing to keep in mind MCUwise is Thanos beats Thor and the Hulk. So that Spiderman is able to make Thanos struggle means Spiderman is not much behind (if at all) Thor and the Hulk in MCU. In the comics of course Thanos would not be someone Spiderman would really stand a chance against short of writer fiat. Of course there was that time when Cannonball defeated Gladiator.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandX Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just now, Erratic1 said: Gotcha! And a thing to keep in mind MCUwise is Thanos beats Thor and the Hulk. So that Spiderman is able to make Thanos struggle means Spiderman is not much behind (if at all) Thor and the Hulk in MCU. In the comics of course Thanos would not be someone Spiderman would really stand a chance against short of writer fiat. Of course there was that time when Cannonball defeated Gladiator.... Well, I'm sure when it comes down to it "It looks cool!" is what they're going for. Or one could call such instance of those extreme times of strength as being power stunts or spending that hero point. 😛 100 ton strength level, the writers are likely thinking, "Oh, well that weighs 50 tons" or some such and don't add in the other factors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erratic1 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 minute ago, BrandX said: Well, I'm sure when it comes down to it "It looks cool!" is what they're going for. Or one could call such instance of those extreme times of strength as being power stunts or spending that hero point. 😛 So you're saying Spiderman emptied his inspiration tray? 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandX Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 10 minutes ago, Erratic1 said: So you're saying Spiderman emptied his inspiration tray? 😁 lol That too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunkiLord Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 I still think this should happen. Also Stone Melee for Scrappers. The Trevor Project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobbledygook Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Just a reminder, this still hasn't happened yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grindingsucks Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 As long as they're properly balanced, sure. Although, I tend not to think of Scrappers has having SS. Cage comes to mind, maybe- though I tend to put him in "Tank" category, b/c of his Titanium hard skin. Spidey probably fits the archetype, as others have pointed out. I know there are others that could theoretically fit the mold of a SS scrapper. Really do need to be very careful about how rage interacts with Scrapper crits, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VV Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Dang, I had a concept for a Hell Boy half-sister port that would work great as SS/Fire Scrapper. I guess I have decided to go Street Justice/ instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunkiLord Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 On 4/18/2021 at 5:28 AM, Gobbledygook said: Just a reminder, this still hasn't happened yet. This needs to happen. The Trevor Project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobbledygook Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 On 5/4/2021 at 12:14 AM, MunkiLord said: This needs to happen. Well, this chapter is named Second Chances, maybe they'll fix rage and in the process, figaure out a way to port it to us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crakerhacker Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 I just want Crushing Uppercut in street fighting to have an option to use Knockout Blow from Super Strength. I hate the way Crushing Uppercut looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Myshkin Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 sniff sniff Smells like Nerf Rage in here. 2 Pylon Test Run Submission Proc Monsters (Controller Edition) Proc Monsters (Defender Edition) Pylon Test Run Results Proc Monsters (Tanker Edition) "Mad King Special" "Ceterum autem censeo Iram esse delendam" Mad King Special - Force Edition (NEW!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeregrineFalcon Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 You know, they don't actually have to nerf Rage in order to give Super Strength to Scrappers. Or at least not nerf it on Tanks. They could just Scrappers a version of SS that has Build Up instead of Rage. Problem solved. "It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire posts, the posts become warning points. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion." Being constantly offended doesn't mean you're right, it means you're too narcissistic to tolerate opinions different than your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Z Bubba Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 3 hours ago, PeregrineFalcon said: You know, they don't actually have to nerf Rage in order to give Super Strength to Scrappers. Or at least not nerf it on Tanks. They could just Scrappers a version of SS that has Build Up instead of Rage. Problem solved. They nerfed crits for EM on scrappers and stalkers so why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeregrineFalcon Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 37 minutes ago, Bill Z Bubba said: They nerfed crits for EM on scrappers and stalkers so why not? *sigh* Yeah... But hey! After they do that, they can go ahead and finally issue Energy Aura to Tankers! Don't worry though, they'll find a way to nerf it so that it's not as good as it should be. Just like they did with EM on Scrappers and Stalkers. 1 "It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire posts, the posts become warning points. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion." Being constantly offended doesn't mean you're right, it means you're too narcissistic to tolerate opinions different than your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Z Bubba Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, PeregrineFalcon said: Don't worry though, they'll find a way to nerf it so that it's not as good as it should be. Just like they did with EM on Scrappers and Stalkers. And people wonder why I say AT balance is a joke and becoming more so with every change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siolfir Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bill Z Bubba said: They nerfed crits for EM on scrappers and stalkers so why not? To be fair, they were buffed some (on both ATs) when scrappers got a chance at it compared to it only being on stalkers. ET having critical damage, even reduced, and a heal is much nicer than just not taking damage plus they un-nerfed the stun percentages. Conclusion: devs hate scrappers less than stalkers (as if Ninjitsu wasn't the most egregious example). Edited May 21, 2021 by siolfir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeregrineFalcon Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 19 hours ago, siolfir said: To be fair, they were buffed some (on both ATs) when scrappers got a chance at it compared to it only being on stalkers. ET having critical damage, even reduced, and a heal is much nicer than just not taking damage plus they un-nerfed the stun percentages. Conclusion: devs hate scrappers less than stalkers (as if Ninjitsu wasn't the most egregious example). *@$%&! a heal! I'd much rather just have the correct damage and critical chance on an EM Scrapper and Stalker. 1 "It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire posts, the posts become warning points. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion." Being constantly offended doesn't mean you're right, it means you're too narcissistic to tolerate opinions different than your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siolfir Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 1 hour ago, PeregrineFalcon said: *@$%&! a heal! I'd much rather just have the correct damage and critical chance on an EM Scrapper and Stalker. So would I, thus the part of the post saying "devs hate scrappers less than stalkers" instead of "devs love scrappers." 🤪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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