MunkiLord Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Haijinx said: harder than Crushing Uppercut? Yes, the Dom's base damage for Seismic Smash is 218.3 and Scrapper base damage for Crushing Uppercut is 218.8 and Seismic Smash has a shorter recharge and activation charge. 1 The Trevor Project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skoryy Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 On 2/20/2020 at 12:40 AM, hejtmane said: The original devs even had concerns with rage and scrappers double stacked rage on a scrapper sounds dumb and stack it with shield charge bahaha that be stupid fun and most likely broken Yup. You either nerf Rage with the resulting tanker/brute drama. Or you don't proliferate and get this thread. Starwave Blue Gale Wolfhound Actionette Relativity Rabbit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunkiLord Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 3 hours ago, skoryy said: Yup. You either nerf Rage with the resulting tanker/brute drama. Or you don't proliferate and get this thread. I think a potential solution is bring it to Scrappers with changes and see how it works out before changing Rage on the other ATs. Use Scrappers as test crash dummies. It's a win-win. Scrappers get SS and we can test Rage changes before impacting existing versions of the set. 1 The Trevor Project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skoryy Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 4 hours ago, MunkiLord said: I think a potential solution is bring it to Scrappers with changes and see how it works out before changing Rage on the other ATs. Use Scrappers as test crash dummies. It's a win-win. Scrappers get SS and we can test Rage changes before impacting existing versions of the set. Yeah, but if it's not OP, we're still in dramaville where tanks won't want the changes proliferated and scraps are upset they're not getting the good SS. The plan for a Rage rework is for the dev team to finish the resist rebalance first, and I inagine the set's not coming over until both are done. Starwave Blue Gale Wolfhound Actionette Relativity Rabbit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honoroit Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Super strength scraps? Yes pls, proliferation! Tanks can cry. 87496456_647589792732466_6447198445726146758_n.mp4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haijinx Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 On 2/21/2020 at 7:26 AM, MunkiLord said: Yes, the Dom's base damage for Seismic Smash is 218.3 and Scrapper base damage for Crushing Uppercut is 218.8 and Seismic Smash has a shorter recharge and activation charge. Crushing uppercut has combo level based specials and extra damage though? But you could add time to recharge to balance it if need be. Or lower the damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haijinx Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, skoryy said: Yup. You either nerf Rage with the resulting tanker/brute drama. Or you don't proliferate and get this thread. Rage could be "nerfed" for Scrappers only though. Recharge times/ base damage could also be rebalanced. For example. Rage could be a 62.5 +damage toggle for Scrappers. Jab could have a 4 second Recharge, Punch 8, Haymaker 12. === You'd need the higher base damage for the SS Stalkers anyhow, since they won't get Rage, because buildup. Edited February 24, 2020 by Haijinx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camel Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) On 2/19/2020 at 11:40 PM, hejtmane said: The original devs even had concerns with rage and scrappers double stacked rage on a scrapper sounds dumb and stack it with shield charge bahaha that be stupid fun and most likely broken I think a small stacking buff may work. Make it stack to 5, add a 20% damage increase for each stack, then have a 2 attack debuff or something. Not as extreme as it is now, but maybe add a -50% damage debuff for those two attacks. Maybe even keep the defense debuff for a short duration too. Edited February 24, 2020 by cazden121 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haijinx Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 4 hours ago, skoryy said: Yeah, but if it's not OP, we're still in dramaville where tanks won't want the changes proliferated and scraps are upset they're not getting the good SS. The plan for a Rage rework is for the dev team to finish the resist rebalance first, and I inagine the set's not coming over until both are done. They will never fix Rage though. Never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunkiLord Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 6 hours ago, Haijinx said: Crushing uppercut has combo level based specials and extra damage though? But you could add time to recharge to balance it if need be. Or lower the damage. I totally forgot to factor that in. Damage for Crushing Uppercut very well might be better. The Trevor Project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vindicator Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 (edited) [deleted] Edited September 8, 2020 by Vindicator 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vindicator Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) [deleted] Edited September 8, 2020 by Vindicator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunkiLord Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Whiny ass Tanks and Brutes crying about Rage are the biggest problem to Scrappers getting Super Strength. I say do whatever they wanna do to Rage, and just remove Tankers and Brutes from the game, problem solved. 1 4 The Trevor Project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKent83 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) Next, Scrappers will want Demon Summoning. Edited March 25, 2020 by CKent83 comma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Myshkin Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Scrappers already have Demon Summoning, it's called "Invite more Scrappers to the team." 1 6 Pylon Test Run Submission Proc Monsters (Controller Edition) Proc Monsters (Defender Edition) Pylon Test Run Results Proc Monsters (Tanker Edition) "Mad King Special" "Ceterum autem censeo Iram esse delendam" Mad King Special - Force Edition (NEW!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunkiLord Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Just now, Sir Myshkin said: Scrappers already have Demon Summoning, it's called "Invite more Scrappers to the team." You get it 2 The Trevor Project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hejtmane Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 17 hours ago, CKent83 said: Next, Scrappers will want Demon Summoning. I thought I was the demon that was summoned did I miss something 1 1 FlashBack to old days: Pinnacle Langar Thurs-Katana/SR 50; Hejtmane-DM/DA 50 Rogue Spear-Spines/DA 50; Hypnosis-Ill/Rad 50 Sir Thomas Theroux-DM/SR 50; Melted Copper-Fire/Shield 50; Byzantine Warrior-DB/ELA 50; Blade Tempo-50 DB/EA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vindicator Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) [deleted] Edited September 8, 2020 by Vindicator 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hejtmane Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 32 minutes ago, Vindicator said: Super Strength for Scrappers, please! Just drop it on dev for us to test to see how bad we can break it and then we have a base line FlashBack to old days: Pinnacle Langar Thurs-Katana/SR 50; Hejtmane-DM/DA 50 Rogue Spear-Spines/DA 50; Hypnosis-Ill/Rad 50 Sir Thomas Theroux-DM/SR 50; Melted Copper-Fire/Shield 50; Byzantine Warrior-DB/ELA 50; Blade Tempo-50 DB/EA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tantricsecrets Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Change rage into buildup, problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haijinx Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 22 hours ago, Tantricsecrets said: Change rage into buildup, problem solved. Wont work unless you change the recharge on Jab, Punch and Haymaker (Basically double them, so base damage is a normal Primary level) But sure - that would work at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostweaver Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 (edited) Not sure ity's going to happen unless they give it a stalker-over. Rage is too powerful for a scrapper set. Edited May 28, 2020 by Frostweaver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunkiLord Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 11 hours ago, Frostweaver said: Not sure ity's going to happen unless they give it a stalker-over. Rage is too powerful for a scrapper set. You're likely right, BUT! I really want it! The Trevor Project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vindicator Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) [deleted] Edited September 8, 2020 by Vindicator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShardWarrior Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 On 8/28/2019 at 10:46 PM, biostem said: I want to see an "Inferior Strength" set, where enemies die from laughter at how ineffectual you are. 😉 Forgive the title. It is not mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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