Most survivable scrapper

[Linea]

I have previously never subjectively liked* Stone.  But NOW I'm currently running an non-granite Stone tank.  ... and ... I LIKE IT. Darn it!

 

So Now ... Someone needs to give me a good /Stone scrapper build I can steal and test.   Maybe [EnM, Kat, RadM, Dual Pistols]/Stone ... I'm going to have to think about it more.

 

*Objectively stone has always been fine, this was a subjective dislike.

Edited 10 hours ago by Linea

[Uun]

10 minutes ago, StriderIV said:

If we throw having a taunt aura out the window, how do you feel /Stone Armor and /Bio stack up to each other both in terms of toughness and offensive ability?

Both are good sets but I feel /Stone is sturdier than /Bio. With Bio I have to keep a close eye on my HP and not wait too long before using DNA Siphon (I can't count the number of times I've died while it was animating). I also keep Ablative Carapace on auto. Stone is mostly set and forget, with just the occasional use of Earth's Embrace or Geode. In terms of offense, I haven't compared the damage procs side by side, but Bio also has a 25% damage buff (both only in Offensive Adaptation). Note, scrapper Bio does have a taunt aura.

[SomeGuy]

3 hours ago, StriderIV said:

If we throw having a taunt aura out the window, how do you feel /Stone Armor and /Bio stack up to each other both in terms of toughness and offensive ability?

 

Toughness? Stone wins easily. Bio is a glass cannon if ran the way it's meant to be ran. Offense? No taunt aura so runners aren't a factor in this (and if something runs away from your PBAoE Aura you are doing zero DPS). They are actually both close to equal. Yeah. Stone Armour contributes as much to offense as much as Bio Armor (or close to).

 

5 hours ago, WuTang said:

 

Another is Spine/Stone/Psi. My son runs this combo and it's great DPS and dang hard to kill. I've got one up and coming with the same build. Slow rolling (sort of) and thus far it's proven to be everything my boy has shown me.

 

DPS *is* damage mitigation. Spines is horrible at DPS. ST and AOE. Is it better DPS then a Mind Controller? Yeah. Doesn't mean it does good DPS. 

Edited 8 hours ago by SomeGuy

[Uncle Shags]

What is this, kindergarten? Do we have to have a lesson on treating others with respect and not attacking their opinions and preferences?

 

Even my 6 year old knows the saying "Different strokes for different folks." 

[SomeGuy]

35 minutes ago, Uncle Shags said:

What is this, kindergarten? Do we have to have a lesson on treating others with respect and not attacking their opinions and preferences?

 

Even my 6 year old knows the saying "Different strokes for different folks." 

 

 

Opinions and this thread are two different things. Fun is subjective. If someone is having fun with measurably the worst performing set combo? Good, keep at it. Not like this game is hard. But if someone is asking for advice on something survivable? Anecdotes and feelings aren't solicited.

[VoidSpawn]

I was discussing this with @Bill Z Bubba a few days ago. He informed me that, even though EM/Bio was great offensively, he thought that his toughest scrapper was in fact his EM/SD. This parallels his Tank selection, too. 

 

I agree that /SD on a Scrapper can be super tough. I've used my own modified version of @Murcielago's DM/SD Scrapper, and it performed seriously well. So did the DM/Inv Scrapper that I used to run. I also delved into IM/SD, and it is seriously rugged; hard to kill with all of its mitigation tactics. Did Spines/DA, and it's an interesting gimmick. I've done a variety of /Bio, too; fun, great offense, but always on the literal edge because, sometimes, they're just squishy. I've also used @Linea's EM/EnA build, and it will take you as far as you are willing to go, even in soloing advanced Star modes. 

 

I've played all of the Scrapper armors to 50 or beyond. I've soloed ITFs, Star content, and Incarnate DA at highest levels. The S-tier here might not be the top of a Primary and the top of a Secondary, IMHO; it's looking sorta nonlinear, if you factor what "survivable" actually means. I could play Fire/Fire/Paper Towels and it could Phase Shift/Inviso/Combat Teleport till the end of time, and simply joust everything to death. Is that survivable?  

 

And, yes, I was shocked [SHOCKED!] that Bill Z didn't list his infamous Claws/SR. I thought it was godlike. Apparently, he thinks otherwise. 

 

-void 

Edited 4 hours ago by VoidSpawn
SM to DM

[VoidSpawn]

@Linea, I think your Primaries for /Stone are great, but please consider adding Ice to that list. EM is the keeper, but Ice is a sleeper. Especially with Stone pushing additional fire damage into the ice. Equinox FTW. 

 

Hell, I don't think I've done that combo. I might roll one now...

[VoidSpawn]

The more I'm looking into this, the more I'm thinking I need to play /PSI. It's one armor for Scrapper I've not actually played, contrary to what I stated earlier in error. If it's like the Tanker version... it could be the most survivable.