Schnoodles Posted August 8, 2019 Posted August 8, 2019 I have 7 lvl50 Heross but this is the only one I want to truly min/max. When creating this creating I did a lot of research but compared to many other power sets there really is not much to go on. Devices has also been changed since most of the info for it has been published. So taking all that into account I have created the following: NOTE: The powers are in the correct levels but the slotting is not. Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.962http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! The Publisher: Level 50 Magic BlasterPrimary Power Set: Assault RifleSecondary Power Set: DevicesPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: TeleportationPower Pool: LeadershipAncillary Pool: Munitions Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Burst -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(3), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7)Level 1: Web Grenade -- EnfOpr-Acc/Rchg(A), EnfOpr-EndRdx/Immob(7), EnfOpr-Immob/Rng(9), EnfOpr-Acc/Immob/Rchg(9), EnfOpr-Acc/Immob(11)Level 2: Slug -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(11), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(13), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15)Level 4: Buckshot -- PstBls-Dam%(A), PstBls-Acc/Dmg(17), PstBls-Dmg/EndRdx(17), PstBls-Dmg/Rchg(19), PstBls-Dmg/Rng(19), Range-I(21)Level 6: Super Speed -- Clr-Stlth(A)Level 8: Caltrops -- PcnoftheT--Rchg%(A), PcnoftheT-Rng/Slow(21), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(23)Level 10: Targeting Drone -- GssSynFr--ToHit(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(23), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(25), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(25), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(27), GssSynFr--Build%(27)Level 12: Sniper Rifle -- StnoftheM-Dam%(A), StnoftheM-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), StnoftheM-Dmg/ActRdx/Rchg(29), StnoftheM-Acc/ActRdx/Rng(31), StnoftheM-Acc/Dmg(31)Level 14: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), Ksm-ToHit+(33), DefBuff-I(33)Level 16: Recall Friend -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A), BlsoftheZ-Travel(33)Level 18: Flamethrower -- Rgn-Knock%(A), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(34), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(34), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Range-I(36)Level 20: Field Operative -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(36), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(37), Heal-I(37), EndMod-I(37), EndMod-I(39)Level 22: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(39)Level 24: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 26: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(39)Level 28: Trip Mine -- Arm-Dam%(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(40), Arm-Acc/Rchg(40), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42)Level 30: Teleport Foe -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A), BlsoftheZ-Travel(31)Level 32: Full Auto -- SprBlsWrt-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsWrt-Dmg/Rchg(42), SprBlsWrt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), SprBlsWrt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), SprBlsWrt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprBlsWrt-Rchg/Dmg%(45)Level 35: Smoke Grenade -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/Rchg(A), DarWtcDsp-Rchg/EndRdx(45), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(45), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(46)Level 38: Body Armor -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A)Level 41: Surveillance -- TchofLadG-%Dam(A), TchofLadG-DefDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(42), TchofLadG-DefDeb/Rchg(46), TchofLadG-DefDeb/EndRdx(46)Level 44: LRM Rocket -- PstBls-Dam%(A), PstBls-Dmg/EndRdx(48), PstBls-Dmg/Rng(48), PstBls-Dmg/Rchg(48), PstBls-Acc/Dmg(50), FrcFdb-Rechg%(50)Level 47: Vengeance -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A)Level 49: Team Teleport -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A), BlsoftheZ-Travel(50)Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Defiance Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)Level 2: Health -- Heal-I(A)Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A)Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve Level 0: Elusive Mind Level 0: Task Force Commander Level 0: The Atlas Medallion Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon Level 50: Clarion Core Epiphany Level 50: Ion Core Final Judgement Level 50: Assault Genome Level 50: Reactive Core Flawless Interface ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1570;713;1426;HEX;| |78DA6594D94F135114C6EF74115B5AD65240B6B6D052280C5450E316E3161EA4490| |3C4479B818E6592A66D3A6DA24FAEBC6BD4171510E3C68B31E282BE9A986834C625| |3131BEF807B8FD01A69ECEF90A9374D2F2BBF39D73EE77E6F40EB153475C0F27CE1| |D1092FB705AD1F5C421FA5B50F3F69892D2E6045DEE9979D5172FCEA6357D5ECDD7| |90D2899CC4949249A949F9A0AE2BC5742131A59D4CABAD95E0743197CBE60BF2849| 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My question to you all is what slotting, powers and enhancements can be used/changed to max out the potential for this build. I have yet to decide on a Lore pet. I am pleased with my damage output so I was thinking of a support pet of some kind. Thoughts? Thanks.
Schnoodles Posted August 9, 2019 Author Posted August 9, 2019 I reread my post and realized I missed a few items. For example, what am I trying to min/max! The build is based on the idea of having my two best attacks available as often as possible. That means full auto for the AOE and Sniper for the single target. It seems that at some point there are diminishing returns as it gets harder to reduce the recharge time. The next item I went for was ranged defense. This item is soft capped. The other two positional defenses (Melee & AOE) are reasonable I suppose. At least I do not feel restrained by them. After that I simply went for any specialty IOs. I suppose it is here that I seek advice. For example, I have Super Speed, Field Operative (with a stealth component) and the Stealth IO. I suspect the IO is wasted. Regarding the health IOs, again I wonder if the selected IOs are in fact helping or simply wasted. Endurance has never been an issue since level 20. Are the KB/KD IOs properly selected and placed? So I suppose its the Uniques any oddities that I do not understand that could be improved. It is here I hope for some assistance.
Seale Posted August 9, 2019 Posted August 9, 2019 really tough to help you there man..... it's a thin layer of ice what separate trying to be helpful to appear ducey in point you some decision you may have taken for your own personal playstile. With that in mind, and trying to limit as much as possible the answer to the precise stuff you asked : Quote The build is based on the idea of having my two best attacks available as often as possible. That means full auto for the AOE and Sniper for the single target. It seems that at some point there are diminishing returns as it gets harder to reduce the recharge time. sort of correct, the recharge is based on the base value of the skill reduced by the total of your recharge and skill recharge slots, usually you just aim to reach a perma hasten and check the cd for stuff you really want to improve (by that example your panacea should go in health, being health regen based off your max hp and not really a good way to increase survivability (aside for /mental that boost it to 1700% in farming), this way you should gain 7.5 recharge global from another luck of the gamble in vengeance and you will be able to change some other slots Quote The next item I went for was ranged defense. This item is soft capped. The other two positional defenses (Melee & AOE) are reasonable I suppose. At least I do not feel restrained by them. while i still see the resistance really low, till you dont feel restrained it's all good Quote I suppose it is here that I seek advice. For example, I have Super Speed, Field Operative (with a stealth component) and the Stealth IO. I suspect the IO is wasted. while the stealth effect radius of a slot bonus stack with super speed stealth effect radius and with a single toggle primary stealth power, the benefit to go from 70 to 100 stealth radius is really not that much needed, totally your choise but not a waste by itself. Quote Regarding the health IOs, again I wonder if the selected IOs are in fact helping or simply wasted gave you an answer to that before, to go more in deep what you gain is 15% regen out of currently 500 (again not worth it) on a non hp build blaster, if you wanna use the slots in health/field operative for healing based ios, place panacea / miracle proc in either of those for the stamina regen, another really good proc is actually the one from preventive medicine absorb proc (lifesaver on a blaster) 1
Schnoodles Posted August 9, 2019 Author Posted August 9, 2019 First off, thank you for the feedback! When it comes to IO sets I am really open to any suggestions, ideas and opinions. I am not experienced with these and welcome any input. Regarding the health suggestions, I will implement those. I was really uncertain how to set those up and the additional LotG recharge is welcome. The stealth info is good. The explanation really helped.
Schnoodles Posted August 12, 2019 Author Posted August 12, 2019 I just wanted to take a moment and link this thread: It is a Defender thread but discusses procs and various power sets including Traps. There is a lot of cross over between Devices and Traps to the point that I think the link is worth reading and the information worth considering when using Devices.
plainguy Posted August 19, 2019 Posted August 19, 2019 This is my build Build for yourself not your team. Be the best you and don't worry about someone else. If you can kick butt then everyone else is cannon fodder. If the proc in Bonfire goes off full auto jumps to 13 seconds. | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1465;683;1366;HEX;| |78DA6594DB53525114C6F7E11C444052F1868AC925812050AAF7A6AB63A38D41F5C| |A9C89133243C8C071A69EBA4FFF4196A65653A965BD94D97BD7D7A6B7A697FE80D2| |6E7679A1E5F916E40C6780DF3EDFDA6BEF6FAFBD3723670E343C1EBCB047488EFD3| |9B5544AEDA35F5D2B5A8EA8FA4451CDC9821E0B7DDD1C4825D47C464BC7F6964AEA| |444E4F25B2A7725A4725989C2814C68B7A6C504D6734BDD43C941FD38A5A5E8F551| |A8ED1F1F15CEC503633A667F3199BF1962C685ADA8E406E23D260B48735B5407D9C| |070BD99314504F6BA9116396B32EF213A06F9FA83C65B3585084882BC2B408D63D0| |0EB1F825D4BA0FB11786E73EE3509B93740DB14E89906FBAF3327C18DB925CE9566| |84A12973CC59B0EE16E8BE0D6EBD030609327215F909B4FA65D0F68CFBAE309F822| |6DA00337284B90B9ADF827D214DB27C30195AEB47F022A95609FEACF7A135DC65DE| |03B7CC3317C0A645304459765E9BFD938C18FB74B21F27FB6D65BF1EF67B9EE0609| |F8EE7D06432D9082FA2D1458D1E4544E8AD996BD02CB01F2E8969E2FD92C1B019B4| |D2382D18476AE1F5C679BD3E8AB571AC2D8279DB9997091D5C8B8EA398DF9B60264| |1CF31D07F1C0C9C0077505627FBECE41AC4B9067EAE819F6B10E51A8409DD5CBFEE| |17D0BC2FC16DAF98AF996F38E72D7889D0C3F5EB59C1DAA2F4D6CBE3F54E613F02D| |360F0267386390BF6CF810AD5C5C7B5F7B5E1EC5EADDE9BB2B96F157304D6C0ED5F| |99DF98DFC1F00F709E860DB1BFD015D25C8A58202DC2E3457E9A50B775E62FE66F3| |0FA87F9175CA4DC18FB8BED948DF196E8000DF05E0EBC47BFF83BD0AD54EF2C7DE8| |11C335CAA852BD9B423214AF52B9AEE5F2671B357946298AAA7FD9AC85A0ADFED72| |4E930358274A286702AD636F79F4465066A7C846B94788DB2BB46D955A3ACB7D304| |ECDEDA54FDEF28FF03E7F5EF50| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| Why Softcap is important: https://dechskaison.blogspot.com/2011/01/why-is-softcap-so-important.html Limits: https://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Limits Attack Mechanics: https://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Attack_Mechanics Semi & Petless Mastermind Builds: https://forums.homecomingservers.com/topic/10994-petless-and-semi-petless-masterminds/
Sainguine22 Posted September 26, 2019 Posted September 26, 2019 Never min/maxed and have all my master badges on my toons, that includes tanking all I trials and have done all content-just smoke one and have fun and play what you like and put enhancements where they look good.
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