Anyone tried Water/Storm?

[Echo Night]

Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification.

[natewest1987]

Updated build for those still following.   Experimenting with a bigger focus on steam spray.   I'm having trouble working out the exact rotation, but I've seen Steam spray hit for over 300 in it's first tick ( several times now), didn't see the number for the second tick.   Hard to tell if this is dependent on damage %, or if it was primarily the result of debuffs / combination of the two.    If I can isolate the rotation to replicate it then water could actually pump out more serious DPS.

 

here is where the build is right now.

 

Villain Plan by Hero Villain Designer 2.23
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Level 50 Magic Corruptor
Primary Power Set: Water Blast
Secondary Power Set: Storm Summoning
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Flight
Ancillary Pool: Dark Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Hydro Blast -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(3)
Level 1: Gale -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)
Level 2: Water Burst -- Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(A), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Rgn-Dmg(5), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(5), Rgn-Knock%(7), FrcFdb-Rechg%(7)
Level 4: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(9)
Level 6: Whirlpool -- SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(9), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(11), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(13), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(13)
Level 8: Steam Spray -- HO:Centri(A), AchHee-ResDeb%(17), HO:Centri(48), Ann-ResDeb%(48), PstBls-Dam%(48), PstBls-Dmg/Rng(29)
Level 10: Dehydrate -- TchofLadG-%Dam(A), Pnc-Heal(17), Prv-Absorb%(27), Pnc-Heal/+End(27)
Level 12: Vengeance -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A)
Level 14: Tough -- Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(23), Ags-ResDam(25), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(25), GldArm-3defTpProc(31), Ags-EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 16: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Water Jet -- Apc-Dmg(A), Dmg-I(19), ImpSwf-Dam%(19), EntChs-Heal%(21), GldJvl-Dam%(21), Apc-Dam%(23)
Level 20: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A)
Level 22: Steamy Mist -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(34), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(36), Ags-ResDam(36), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 24: Hover -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), WntGif-RunSpd/Jump/Fly/Rng(34), WntGif-RunSpd/Jump/Fly/Rng/EndRdx(50), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(50), Rct-ResDam%(50)
Level 26: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)
Level 28: Freezing Rain -- SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprScrBls-Dmg/Rchg(31), SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), SprScrBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprScrBls-Rchg/+End(34)
Level 30: Geyser -- SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMlcoft-Dmg/Rchg(37), SprMlcoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), FrcFdb-Rechg%(37), JvlVll-Dam%(39), SprMlcoft-Rchg/Dmg%(39)
Level 32: Tornado -- BldMnd-Dmg(A), BldMnd-Dmg/EndRdx(39), BldMnd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), SlbAll-Build%(40), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(40), FrcFdb-Rechg%(42)
Level 35: Weave -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A)
Level 38: Lightning Storm -- OvrFrc-Dam/KB(A), FrcFdb-Rechg%(42), GldJvl-Dam%(42), Dcm-Build%(43), Dmg-I(43), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End(46)
Level 41: Soul Drain -- FuroftheG-ResDeb%(A), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(43), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), Arm-Dam%(46)
Level 44: Dark Embrace -- Ags-ResDam(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(45), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(46)
Level 47: Dark Consumption -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(15), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15)
Level 49: Tidal Forces -- GssSynFr--Build%(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Scourge 
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 1: Combo Level 1 
Level 1: Combo Level 2 
Level 1: Combo Level 3 
Level 50: Spiritual Radial Paragon 
Level 50: Assault Radial Embodiment 
Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany 
Level 50: Banished Pantheon Radial Superior Ally 
Level 50: Degenerative Core Flawless Interface 
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Edited August 30, 2019 by natewest1987

[Obus Form]

On 8/29/2019 at 10:11 PM, natewest1987 said:

Updated build for those still following.   Experimenting with a bigger focus on steam spray.   I'm having trouble working out the exact rotation, but I've seen Steam spray hit for over 300 in it's first tick ( several times now), didn't see the number for the second tick.   Hard to tell if this is dependent on damage %, or if it was primarily the result of debuffs / combination of the two.    If I can isolate the rotation to replicate it then water could actually pump out more serious DPS.

 

here is where the build is right now.

 

Villain Plan by Hero Villain Designer 2.23
https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer

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Level 50 Magic Corruptor
Primary Power Set: Water Blast
Secondary Power Set: Storm Summoning
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Flight
Ancillary Pool: Dark Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Hydro Blast -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(3)
Level 1: Gale -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)
Level 2: Water Burst -- Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(A), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Rgn-Dmg(5), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(5), Rgn-Knock%(7), FrcFdb-Rechg%(7)
Level 4: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(9)
Level 6: Whirlpool -- SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(9), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(11), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(13), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(13)
Level 8: Steam Spray -- HO:Centri(A), AchHee-ResDeb%(17), HO:Centri(48), Ann-ResDeb%(48), PstBls-Dam%(48), PstBls-Dmg/Rng(29)
Level 10: Dehydrate -- TchofLadG-%Dam(A), Pnc-Heal(17), Prv-Absorb%(27), Pnc-Heal/+End(27)
Level 12: Vengeance -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A)
Level 14: Tough -- Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(23), Ags-ResDam(25), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(25), GldArm-3defTpProc(31), Ags-EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 16: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Water Jet -- Apc-Dmg(A), Dmg-I(19), ImpSwf-Dam%(19), EntChs-Heal%(21), GldJvl-Dam%(21), Apc-Dam%(23)
Level 20: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A)
Level 22: Steamy Mist -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(34), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(36), Ags-ResDam(36), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 24: Hover -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), WntGif-RunSpd/Jump/Fly/Rng(34), WntGif-RunSpd/Jump/Fly/Rng/EndRdx(50), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(50), Rct-ResDam%(50)
Level 26: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)
Level 28: Freezing Rain -- SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprScrBls-Dmg/Rchg(31), SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), SprScrBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprScrBls-Rchg/+End(34)
Level 30: Geyser -- SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMlcoft-Dmg/Rchg(37), SprMlcoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), FrcFdb-Rechg%(37), JvlVll-Dam%(39), SprMlcoft-Rchg/Dmg%(39)
Level 32: Tornado -- BldMnd-Dmg(A), BldMnd-Dmg/EndRdx(39), BldMnd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), SlbAll-Build%(40), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(40), FrcFdb-Rechg%(42)
Level 35: Weave -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A)
Level 38: Lightning Storm -- OvrFrc-Dam/KB(A), FrcFdb-Rechg%(42), GldJvl-Dam%(42), Dcm-Build%(43), Dmg-I(43), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End(46)
Level 41: Soul Drain -- FuroftheG-ResDeb%(A), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(43), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), Arm-Dam%(46)
Level 44: Dark Embrace -- Ags-ResDam(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(45), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(46)
Level 47: Dark Consumption -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(15), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15)
Level 49: Tidal Forces -- GssSynFr--Build%(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Scourge 
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 1: Combo Level 1 
Level 1: Combo Level 2 
Level 1: Combo Level 3 
Level 50: Spiritual Radial Paragon 
Level 50: Assault Radial Embodiment 
Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany 
Level 50: Banished Pantheon Radial Superior Ally 
Level 50: Degenerative Core Flawless Interface 
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Thanks for sharing your build and testing it out for the community!

 

Question: hurricane isn't used as mentioned above.   But if it was, why doesn't anyone slot force feedback recharge into it?

 

 

[terrawar]

I use stream spray. As a debuffer though I am in a sent so do not know if that changes things and I have it slotted for that and a proc

[Darkir]

On 1/23/2020 at 1:40 PM, tinygodzilla said:

 

Question: hurricane isn't used as mentioned above.   But if it was, why doesn't anyone slot force feedback recharge into it?

I would if I used it, but hurricane really suffers because it has a knockback effect AND a repel effect inherent to the power. There is no way to change or get rid of repel, so it ends up proccing force feedback even less than the kinetic power Repel because it keeps pushing the mobs away due to its repel effect. Strangely, the kinetic power Repel has no repel effect.

Edited February 1, 2020 by Darkir

[Plays with Matches]

This is my take on Water/Storm it's a bit expensive (70 boosters) and will not exemplar well but it does have solid defenses, perma hasten, 17ish sec recharge on FR and 25 sec recharge on LS.  End should mostly be alright, the Theft of Essence proc in Dehydrate should help with any issues the build might have.  I am still leveling it so will have to see how it does once i get to 50 and get it all slotted.

Villain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.7
https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer

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Soggy Matches: Level 50 Magic Corruptor
Primary Power Set: Water Blast
Secondary Power Set: Storm Summoning
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Aqua Bolt -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(3), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(5), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7)
Level 1: Gale -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Water Burst -- SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), SprScrBls-Rchg/+End(9), Dmg-I(9)
Level 4: Super Speed -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 6: Whirlpool -- SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMlcoft-Dmg/Rchg(13), SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), SprMlcoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), SprMlcoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), SprMlcoft-Rchg/Dmg%(17)
Level 8: Tidal Forces -- GssSynFr--ToHit(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(19), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(19), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(21), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(21), GssSynFr--Build%(23)
Level 10: Steamy Mist -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(23), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(25), Rct-ResDam%(25), LucoftheG-Def(43)
Level 12: Dehydrate -- SprScrBls-Dmg/Rchg(A), SprScrBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27), SprScrBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27), ThfofEss-+End%(29), Mrc-Heal/EndRdx(29), Mrc-Heal(31)
Level 14: Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 16: Freezing Rain -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Water Jet -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(31), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(33)
Level 20: Tough -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(33), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(34)
Level 22: Weave -- RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(34), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg(36), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(36), RedFrt-Def(36), RedFrt-EndRdx(37)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(37)
Level 26: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(37), LucoftheG-Def(43)
Level 28: Tactics -- HO:Cyto(A)
Level 30: Hurricane -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(39), DarWtcDsp-Rchg/EndRdx(39), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(39)
Level 32: Geyser -- Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(40), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(40), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Rgn-Dmg(42)
Level 35: Tornado -- ExpStr-Dmg/KB(A), ExpStr-Acc/KB(42), ExpStr-Dam%(42), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(43)
Level 38: Lightning Storm -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(45), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 41: Scorpion Shield -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(46), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(48)
Level 44: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(48), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(48), BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(50)
Level 47: O2 Boost -- Mrc-Heal/Rchg(A), Mrc-Heal/EndRdx(50), Mrc-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 49: Vengeance -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Quick Form
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Scourge
Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(11), Pnc-Heal/+End(11)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(13)
Level 1: Combo Level 1
Level 1: Combo Level 2
Level 1: Combo Level 3
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon
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